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[NSW] 6.66kw Longi 370w Panels and 5KW Fronius Primo Inverter for $5.5k Installed @ Quick Fix Solar

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[NSW] 6.66kw Longi 370w Panels and 5KW Fronius Primo Inverter for $5.5k Installed @ Quick Fix Solar
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Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 10:27 files.ozbargain.com.au (437 clicks)
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Had solar installed by these guys a week ago and they were amazing. The owner, Luke, who quoted the system was also the guy who installed it (along with his employees). My install even included some colour matched down pipe to conceal the conduit.

Noticed they advertised this deal, so thought I would share:

18 x 370w Longi Hi Mo 4 panels (these were released literally this week. I have the 350w panels, I should have waited a week haha)
1 x 5KW Fronius Primo inverter

The deal notes that it’s for central coast, Newcastle and hunter valley. Though they did mention that they do installs in Sydney, so might be worth asking.

Personally, researching and organising solar (this was my second house to get installed) is up there with dealing with real estate agents and used car salesman, so these Quick Fix Solar dudes were a breath of fresh air. No nonsense, not trying to upsell unnecessary and a genuine passion for solar which was shown in their super neat install.

Happy to share pics of my install if it helps.

Hope it helps someone :)

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  • rhymingboxer1 on 07/05/2020 - 10:30

    You might wanna update the posting and add the locations where this deal is applicable as per the advert.

    • Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 10:31

      Hey mate, I put it in the body of the listing I think?

      • rhymingboxer1 on 07/05/2020 - 10:33

        haha I think you were editing it while I was posting it. You are right I can see it now. My bad.

        • Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 10:36

          All good!

  • Slippery Fish on 07/05/2020 - 10:45

    1. Normally you don't want a quick fix when your talking investment, odd name choice.

    2. Wish they did qld…

    • Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 11:01
      +1

      Haha to be honest when I was researching companies I had to do a double take at the name haha. Random hey. But tbh I wish I had a good recommendation when before I found these guys because the industry seems to attract two types of solar sellers. 1. Cheap SPN/Solarboost types who subcontract it out which is fine if you’re planning to flip the house quickly. 2. ‘Premium’ local installers who seem to over quote prices unnecessarily (I get they want to make a profit, but I had quotes for $3500 more than what I paid…).

      Quick Fix (despite their name haha) were a happy medium for me. Competitive price and an established local company who have a real passion for their work and were just a nice small business

  • hoxygt on 07/05/2020 - 11:03
    +1

    Plenty of good reviews, matching the conduit colour, thats the kinda thing I'm happy to pay that little extra for, eye for detail and quality across their gear and install - https://www.solarquotes.com.au/installer-review/quick-fix-so…

    Checkout the website linked Slippery I'm sure there are plenty of good operators in your part of the world!

    • Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 11:08
      +1

      Yep. And ran the wires through the garage roof to the back of the inverter so you can’t see any conduit on the install at all. Very happy with it.

  • ChmpgneTasteBeerBdgt on 07/05/2020 - 11:33

    Could I please ask a question unrelated to this deal… For those with Solar knowledge, would you choose 20 x 330w Risen Jager with 9 busbars or 20 x 330w Jinko Cheetah with 5 busbars for $100 more? I've heard that more busbars are better, but I've also heard that Jinko is slightly better than Risen. Confused and don't know which to choose

    • Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 12:05

      SPN and their risen panels? Tbh I got an SPN install at my previous. For a cheap setup they were fine. Install was obviously done without any finesse but to be honest the Risen/Hauwei setup worked pretty well. The problem was getting them to come back to fix a problem with the inverter… what a hassle.

      Im no expert but from what I’ve learnt, the difference in price from an entry level panel to a mid range is relatively small, for peace of mind RE long term degradation I think a Longi / q cells panel is a great idea. The price difference up to LG panels is too much to justify the price in my opinion.

      Sorry to not answer your question, but if I were u I would go for a mid range panel

      • ChmpgneTasteBeerBdgt on 07/05/2020 - 13:02
        +2

        @Bellpop first off, thanks for all the input you provide to solar conversations here on OzB. Yes, SPN with a Huawei inverter and a choice of Risen or Jinko panels. I appreciate the recommendation, but I don't know if I can justify the additional $2K cost for Fronius and Longi over Huawei and Jinko/Risen. From a reliability and manufacturer perspective, the Huawei/Jinko/Risen option seems tough to beat.
        Quality of installation and ongoing support is my only real concern..

        What problem did you have with the Huawei inverter? Any tips / things I should check after install?

        • Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 13:07

          Nah hauwei inverter was fine, it was just a matter of the local voltage being too high. Hauwei support was amazing. And yeah you’re right it’s hard to beat those prices. I actually had SPN do a quote for the new house and they said for the price they had to run conduit on the outside of the house which would have impacted aesthetics, resale, street appeal, etc.

          And yeah, had no problem with the risen/hauwei combo at all. Worked a treat.

          Tips, be there when they install and request they do everything u can think of to make it better, eg “do you think you can run the conduit within the roof cavity”, “shouldn’t the panels be facing north”, “is east / west a better idea? Why?”

          All the installers will be CEC certified so they ‘should’ know what they’re doing, but do to the small payment from SPN I think that wanna hit it and quit it ASAP as they don’t need to wear it

  • Devil on 07/05/2020 - 12:33

    Been wanting to get solar for a while now but not even sure where to start looking or what to look for.

    Does this setup make 5kw of power? Is that how it works?

    • Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 13:01
      +1

      So 5kw is what most houses let u send into the grid, so it’s basically a default inverter size for most homes. 6.6kw of panels allows u to oversize it to make more power that a. You can use and b. Capture more in mornings and arvos. It’s also the 1.3 x rule for STCs which is the government rebate so it’s cheapest. I’m no expert but I was also you not long ago haha. Good luck, it’s a great investment and fun with the monitoring apps

      • Devil on 07/05/2020 - 13:05

        Thanks Bellpop! I understand now.. the whole solar setup can get so complicated lol.

        Another question, is this the price with the rebate or do I get a rebate on top of this (is there actually still a rebate in NSW?)?

        • Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 13:07
          +1

          It’s factored into this price. They claim the STCs.

          • Devil on 07/05/2020 - 15:58

            @Bellpop: Great, never knew how that worked!

            I've reached out to the guy to have a chat. Thanks for posting this up!

            • Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 16:59

              @Devil: You’re welcome 😊

              • Devil on 12/05/2020 - 00:10

                @Bellpop: Quite disappointed with the communication from the installer so far.

                Pretty much have had to chase him up just for a reply or details several times. Last communication he asked for an email address and said he'd email a quote. Still nothing after 3-4 days now.

                Will probably give this guy a miss.

    • od810 on 07/05/2020 - 13:08
      +1

      So you have 6.6KW of Panel power, and 5KW of inverter Power. 5KW is the maximum it can produce at any single time. The reason that people tend to have larger capacity on the panels is because when there's loss in transmission and also on shady days or not at noon, your system can still produce higher power. The shape of power throughput will look like a Bell curve, peak is at around 11 - 2 depending on the seasons.

      • Devil on 07/05/2020 - 15:57

        Thanks for this explanation!

        Guess 6.6kw seems like a suitable size then based on that.

        Is there a way to work whether I'd use the whole 5kw? My last bill for the quarter said I used: 836 kWh. Do I just take 836/90 days to work out the kw per day?

        If so I'm using 9kw/day which means that I'll be using twice what I make? Expecting bill to be roughly halved?

        • od810 on 07/05/2020 - 16:46

          So the way it works is that, during the day the system will produce power, any usage that doesn't exceed the power it produces (i.e. at noon 5Kw), you will not pay for usage. Now during the peak, unlikely you will use everything, so surplus will be sold back to the grid at ~10 - 15c/kwh depending on states & providers. During the night, you still have to pay for your consumption, so these consumption charge can be offset by the amount you sell back to the grid during the day. To give you some idea, from Oct to Feb i only paid a total of $40 (average $8/month), because i have so much surplus. During the winter, you will still have to pay your bill because your production will be a lot less. For March and April (due to the rain & overcast days in melbourne), the system probably offset about 200kwh per month (my guesstimate).

          All in all, at this price, just install the system, your quality of life will be better because you won't be frugal with your usage on hot days or cold days, and you will make money back at worst in 4 5 years. My calculation is that this system will produce about 7.5-8megwatt per year, at 12c/kwh feed in tariff, you make about ~$900/day in the worst case scenario i.e. you never stay at home to use the energy it produces, pay back time is 6 years. In reality you will make money back way faster than that.

          My recommendation is that EVERYONE should install solar now (unless you have a lot of trees around or you have very small roof and you have to go for very expensive system).

          • Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 17:00

            @od810: Great explanation and yep, I agree, especially for ozbargainers, solar is a must have.

          • Devil on 07/05/2020 - 21:11

            @od810: Thank you so much for explaining all this! I'm actually starting to get the benefits now.

            Have reached out to the installer.

            Only thing I didn't understand was when you said less efficient on the North or North West setup. I thought the North would be the best side because it'd get direct sun all day?

            • od810 on 07/05/2020 - 22:50

              @Devil: I mean my setup is less efficient than the N or NW setup (mine is on flat roof without tilt rack)

              • Devil on 07/05/2020 - 23:46

                @od810: Oh, just re-read your comment! Makes sense… thanks!

        • od810 on 07/05/2020 - 17:48

          BTW, I have a 6.6KW system installed on a flat roof (less efficient on the North or North West setup). So it gives you some idea about my calculation in the previous post.

  • quasi on 07/05/2020 - 13:05

    this is the exact same kit i've been looking at through a few suppliers. SPN are about 20% cheaper and I believe have their own installation teams for Sydney, but I've been nervous going ahead with them. might give these guys a shout

    • Bellpop on 07/05/2020 - 13:18

      Yeah good quality:price ratio I reckon.

      I’m sure I’m gonna ruffle a few of the purists’ feathers here, but once u start talking LG and Enphase your ROI turns into 378 years

      • marko62 on 07/05/2020 - 15:28

        You usually get what you pay for but you can get lucky with a cheaper panel. I had my system installed in May 2011 and at the time i ordered and paid for Conergy panels. The installer pulled a switch and installed an unknown Chinese panel, when i complained they said they were having trouble getting the conergies and offered me a refund of $1100 if i kept them.

        I decided to keep them i as it turns out i believe i made the right choice. Conergy is long gone and my Chinese panels are still outputting with a lifetime efficiency average of 4.611KWh/KW which according to PVoutput.org is above the average when i compare with other systems the same age

  • [Deactivated] on 07/05/2020 - 17:18

    Some very good discussion and experiences with solar companies on Whirlpool. Read one a little while back which covered everything from invertors, panels, installers, system sizes, upgrades to power meters, quotes etc. Just had a very quick look and can't find the particular thread so you'll have to search yourself, sorry.

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