HP Procurves have a lifetime replacement warranty.
24 port is probably a bit of overkill for a home network, but 16 ports is, for my intentions anyway, just a bit too small.
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24 Port 1810g HP Procurve Managed Gigabit Switch, $289 Delivered from eStore.com.au
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Good luck getting a lifetime warranty on a TP Link, definitely not the same quality!
Do you mean rj45 will replace HDMI, cause that's starting to happen now?
Fibre will replace rj45 at some stage, but I can't see HDMI becoming a networking standard, cable length restriction is the killer..
RJ45 ? Its Cat6 now and who uses hdmi to transfer data ?
Anyhow I went the cheap and nasty option I dont care if the switch dies, costs a 100 bucks for a cheap 16 port gigabyte.
Our new Dell Managed switches came with HDMI ports for stacking them together but there is no way it would replace RJ45 completely.
HDMI 1.4 handles ethernet, which will be used to transfer internet between home theatre devices, if you read the comment I said in the "near future". So life time warranty verus having to upgrade soon, paying less for a TPLink makes more sense
Link for those that dont know what a RJ-45 looks like http://www.nullmodem.com/RJ-45.htm Cat5 and 6 is just a branding.
So many things wrong with your comments asa79!
1) cat5/cat 6 are not "branding", they're categories (ie cat=category) and define the type of cable and the capabilities of the cable just like HDMI v1.3 vs HDMI v1.4
2) RJ-45 is simply the socket/plug type that cat5/cat6 cables terminate with.
3) 2x Ethernet cables can replace HDMI over long distances, but HDMI is not designed for communicating over distance.
4) HDMI 1.4 adds an Ethernet capability into HDMI for device-device intercommunication. The HDMI 1.4 data capability is 100mbps, ie it is not designed to be a competitor to Ethernet.Finally, as stated, this deal is not for everyone… TP Link switches will do the job, but for longevity and reliability, this is a good deal.
HDMI 1.4 handles ethernet, which will be used to transfer internet between home theatre devices
Yes, but that is all it will ever do.
HDMI is not going to replace ethernetSo life time warranty verus having to upgrade soon, paying less for a TPLink makes more sense
You are never going to need to upgrade to a switch that uses HDMI to connect all of your computers.
Aside from that HDMI requires a licence before you can but it on your device and you need to pay for every HDMI connection on your device.
Ethernet has no such cost so is obviously cheaper for manufacturers.Average life of a TP-Link switch will be 2-3 years at best..
The need to upgrade from gigabit ethernet in my house wont happen in the next 10 years minimum.
The need for more than 24 outlets in my house ever is highly unlikely.
I just can't imagine a scenario where I'll need to upgrade from Gb Ethernet in my lifetime frankly. Apart from fibre, which will no doubt happen, but not for a significant period of time. (Wireless will grow, but you can't beat the reliability of cable/fibre, there will always be a market for that reliability)The hassle of buying multiple items as well as living without a home network, well the value of that is up to you…For me, $29/year over 10 years, I reckon a lifetime warranty in this case is affordable.
If it were $2900, different story!How long have people been using 10/100 ethernet for? I would say a good 15 years or more - since I was in high school. A lot of people are still using 10/100 networks. Most routers that you buy these days don't even have gigabit ethernet capability - only the high end ones.
Most people are only now upgrading to gigabit ethernet - probably because they're struggling to stream high def movies over their home network.
I daresay gigabit ethernet will be sufficient for most households for at least 10 more years. Note I am not saying that it will be the standard - just merely that it will be sufficient.
youll need to know alot more about how layer 2 network devices work to use this properly. especially HP switches that are CLI driven.
imo doesnt suit everyone.
absolutely doesn't suit everyone…
the 24 ports is excessive for most people just as a start!but for those that it does suit, this is the best price I've seen in Oz.
I have the 8 port version of this and it has a web interface.
youll need to know alot more about how layer 2 network devices work to use this properly
Not really, you can still plug'n'play with these kind of switches. Just gives more customisation if required.
The 1810g is a "smart managed" device with vastly limited functions and it is managed via a web interface. It is basically an unmanaged switch with link aggregation, VLAN, port mirroring, and DoS protection added. It is not a fully managed switch. In depth knowledge of IP should not be necessary.
http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/products/switches/index.aspx
it has been this price for quite a few weeks now, still a good deal mind you!
agreed. nice deal
I think the 8 port of the same series is around $100 less. The 24 port is by far best bang for buck if you need that many ports. HP's have a great warranty, so well worth the premium price IMO.
great unit !
i only need about 10-11 ports, but extra is ok
it arrived in 3 days !
Suitable for cat6?
yes
Gigabit is cat6
No it is not.
Gigabit is the means of transmitting Ethernet frames at 1 gigtabit per second.Cat6 is a type of Ethernet cable.
You can obtain gigabit speeds using Cat 5, 5e and 6 cable
Cat6 cable is only needed if you want to operate in a 1000BASE-TX environment however because 1000BASE-TX has been a failure your equipment probably does not support it.
The only advantage of Cat6 and 1000BASE-TX is that only 2 pairs of wire are needed leaving the remaining 2 pairs in the Cat6 cable free for another use.
You can use ordinary Cat5 with gigabit ethernet and get gigabit speeds, all 4 pairs in the cable are used and that is the only difference.
Good price.
I picked one up from here including delivery for the same $289 price.
http://www.citysoftware.com.au/HP_Procurve_1810g-24_Switch-w…These are also fanless so very quiet and excellent on power consumption.
Don't mind me this is actually the same place just another branding of it :)
Awesome switch…..and no moving parts means silent operation!!
I don't think I've ever seen an Ethernet switch with moving parts, except perhaps the power button and fan.
Fans… can be noisy and can fail. That's all.
Large rack mount units like this one often have fans.
Because they are rack mount sized they normally have very small, fast spinning fans which make a lot of noisemy cisco 2960 fan is quite large and noticable at night. this is tempting
Whats the power consumption like though?
I have a 16 port gigabit netgear prosafe, and it uses 17W. Its a bit high, but I need more than 8 ports.
For similar price you can go Cisco SR2024T-AU $284.83
http://www.warcom.com.au/shop/flypage/networking/Switches/24…Isn't that just a rebadged Linksys SR2024 which were pretty average?
Cisco SR2024 end-of-life product notice
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/p…
Cisco end-of-life warranty policy
In the event of discontinuance of product manufacture, Cisco warranty support is limited to five (5) years from the announcement of discontinuance.http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/general/warranty/English/LH2…
CMMIW, Cisco SR2024T isn't managed switch (ie. no 802.3ad link aggregation support, etc)
PS: I love HP Procurve. Very easy to configure with Teamed Networkcard, VLAN, etc. Used it on business production environment.
Seemed too good to pass up, thanks to the OP for the link.
8 or 16 ports would be enough for most, and fanless as well, not to mention less power hungry…
Any deals on a 16 port?
I ordered one of these and estore sent an email back asking for a Credit Card Charge Authority - I basically have to send them a copy of my drivers license and credit card.
This is the first time this has happened to me before, has anybody else had this request?
Yes happened here, all went through ok was a bit weird but I guess it makes sense if they have had high fraud.
Heh. I never got around to doing this (sending the CCCA) and I noticed the day after they requested it they billed my card anyway (billed on the 3rd oct).
Send them an email asking if the CCCA was still required, no answer. Still no switch either.
only had this happen when purchasing stuff from overseas stores.
I reckon the TPlinks are quite a bit cheaper though. Probably not the same quality but they do the job.