Ryzen 3 3100 vs Ryzen 5 3500x

qkqnxogus on 17/07/2020 - 20:11
Last edited 20/07/2020 - 16:38 by 1 other user

Hi you beautiful people,

I'm purchasing a PC and I would love to hear what you guys think :)
Which of two would you go for if there were approximately same price ?

  1. Ryzen 3 3100
    GTX 1660 6GB
    16GB 2666MHz RAM
    240GB SSD
    B350 motherboard
    550W PSU
    Leaper Air Mini RGB Case

  2. Ryzen 5 3500X
    GTX 1660 6GB [Galax 1-click]
    8GB 2666MHz
    A320 MB
    240GB 2.5" SSD
    550W PSU
    Leaper Air Mini RGB Case

You guys are truly awesome!!

Poll Options

  • 6
    1. Ryzen 3 3100
  • 13
    2. Ryzen 5 3500X
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Comments

  • Yuri Lowell on 17/07/2020 - 20:47
    +2

    The 8GB of DDR4 is the biggest concern. That's cutting it close in a lot of games and could pose a real issue in the future until you buy another set of RAM. Otherwise the 3500X and 3100 probably don't have much difference right now in gaming. But I can see the 3500X being better in the long term due to having 6 cores.

    • qkqnxogus on 17/07/2020 - 21:11

      I didn't even know more cores played a big role. Thanks heaps :)

  • smashman42 on 17/07/2020 - 21:55
    +3

    Neither, they're both terribly specced builds, though I suppose the 3100 parts list is the least shit of the two?

    Pretty much every component listed is terribad price/performance wise compared to things just a little bit dearer

    It's like someone went "I want to save $1-20 on every individual component no matter how dumb that idea is" and gave you these lists of garbage left over crap that no-one in their right mind would buy - like the non-super 1660 when the super version is pretty much the same money.

    Bang for buck options are…

    • 3300X - if you can afford 3500X you can afford 3300X, less cores but SMT makes them about the same multi-threaded, but the single CCX of the 3300X is way better for single thread or games latency wise, but stepping down to a 3100 saves you bugger all that it really isn't worth it unless you've already run out of money. 3300X scales well up to like 2070 Super so going more is kinda a luxury option if all it is doing is gaming and web browsing, and the 3500X is more a sideways step than an upgrade, which means going 3600.
    • B450 board - better CPU support for future upgrades, generally better VRMs (a B450 if it gets the BIOS support like it is mean to, it should give you the option of a 4000 series 8 core down the road, whereas the A320 is probs 6 core 3000 series max and B350 3000 series 8 core max)
    • 16GB DDR4-3200 (2x8GB) - literally often the same price as the same capacity 2666, but Ryzen gets munted by low memory bandwidth, so you need dual channel full stop so that 3500X build that looks like one stick is the worst idea ever
    • brand name 550w+ 80+ bronze PSU - you can in theory keep this component for like a decade if you don't buy junk here, but to go modular or higher than bronze the price goes up real fast.
    • Case is largely up to you, though if you want to reuse it best to have a full ATX one for more flexibility in the future and one with a mesh front for good airflow - you can add fans later if you have to, but adding holes for said fans isn't really viable
    • price scaling from 250GB to 500GB often isn't much more - even consider recycling an old SSD if you have one - do you already have a
    • GPU wise as big as your budget allows once you have the fundamentals down, either an RX570/580 if you can get them real cheap but ideally a 1650 Super minimum (same rough performance as RX580 buy more power efficient/runs cooler, so less noise)

    This way, going cheaper GPU but stronger everything else, you can just replace the GPU in a year or 3 rather than need to replace the whole damn thing. Your other parts mean you're only looking at 1080p 60FPS gaming anyway, so RX57/80 or 1650S is enough, but more of everything else is better for your next GPU when games get more hardcore.

    Honestly if you can wait longer and save up more you'd be better off, these builds are just skimping too much. Though if you want something that "just works right now" and don't care about maybe having to do this all again in a year or two, by all means at least get the 3100 one - the board in the 3500X list pretty much disqualifies it

    • arkie0 on 17/07/2020 - 22:34

      Neither, they're both terribly specced builds

      It's techfast, they purposely under spec components so you pay for the overpriced upgrades. Resulting in 2 builds that are bad, why would you put a shitter cpu with a better mb and ram or better cpu with shitter mb/ram.

    • qkqnxogus on 18/07/2020 - 00:08
      +1

      Brother you are awesome!!! I learnt so much more reading this than youtubing and reading various articles for days. You are an awesome human being. Thank you thank you!!!!

    • qkqnxogus on 18/07/2020 - 00:10

      So you reckon, go for 3100 one if I have to choose one without any upgrades?

      • dcep on 18/07/2020 - 01:08
        +2

        no, just go for 3500x

        just get another 8gb ram stick from umart for less than 50 bux , and don't worry about 2666mhz vs 3200mhz for that 5fps

        you won't upgrade cpu or overclock , so that A320m board will do just fine and performs exactly like b350/b450

        future-proofing is overated , you'll most likely rebuilding new system after 2-3 years , than upgrading parts unless it's GPU ,

        even then 3500x CPU is plenty fast to pair with next-gen higher-end GPU

        you can't have all the candies with that low price build, but that doesn't mean the low price build is garbage, it still outperforms those who spent heaps on motherboard, PSU, ram, whilst on the same budget and had to skimp on lower-tier GPU/CPU thus losing on performance.

        • qkqnxogus on 18/07/2020 - 01:19

          Will I have to get exact same model of 8gb ram stick? Thanks :)

          • smashman42 on 18/07/2020 - 12:17
            +1

            @qkqnxogus: if you aren't going to overclock, nope. any second stick the same size and same or higher speed rating will work & make it dual channel.

            • qkqnxogus on 18/07/2020 - 21:05

              @smashman42: Not gonna over clock! Same size meaning any 8g ram 2666mhz? Thanks so much

        • arkie0 on 18/07/2020 - 10:15

          I would add, you give up some reliability esp with the psu for the increase in performance.

          • qkqnxogus on 18/07/2020 - 22:47

            @arkie0: Thanks mate! I will see how my game runs with 1x8gb ram and add another if it's too slow. So you are saying single channel ram has better longevity but worse performance right

            • arkie0 on 18/07/2020 - 23:59

              @qkqnxogus: No Ryzen runs alot better with 2 channels.

              The reliability was more in general, more expensive can mean more reliable.

  • aussieprepper on 18/07/2020 - 02:51

    What is your budget?

    • qkqnxogus on 18/07/2020 - 09:07

      Only 800-900 dollars :(

  • abctoz on 18/07/2020 - 17:30

    conventional wisdom:

    • 6c/6t 3500x > 4c/8t 3100
    • buy a quality mb with good vrm
    • spend mega $$$ and buy a quality psu

    reality:

    • more threads is more futureproof, the PS5 will have a 16 thread cpu and game devs will be building around this, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the 3100 having 8 threads might not be worse than the 3500x with 6 threads.
    • most people will never come close to stressing their vrm's. the standard brands all use quality components even on the lowest tier boards, on the more expensive boards you're also paying premium licensing fees for standards like SLI most people don't use
    • even quality psu's fail, warranty is a PITA, you can buy multiple budget psus for the price of 1 'quality psu'

    all in all techfast has done the research for you and imo their builds deliver great value, if you ask around for opinion you'll likely waste money

    • qkqnxogus on 18/07/2020 - 23:21

      Yay! Thanks for your awesome input. I am learning so much!

  • sal78 on 20/07/2020 - 09:02

    This is within your budget. GTX 1650 Super is a bit cheaper.

    https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/k9CLrH

    something like this? my son’s PC built a few weeks ago. Would be approx $100 cheaper now that prices are lower or could upgrade CPU to Ryzen 5 3600 or GTX 1660.

    It’a all within your budget. Good time to buy.

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