Hey Guys,
Here is a link to the screenshot I took: https://imgur.com/gallery/SMOpHQw
Here is a link to the product page: https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/geforce/products/store/
tl;dr:
3070: $809 Coming in October
3080: $1,139 Coming Sept 17th
3090: $2,429 Coming Sept 24th
Sounds like that's exactly what's going to happen, just like the 20xx series with the Super variants.
Kinda disappointed the 3080 isn't sli compatible, yet the 1080 or 2080 ti is on computational calculations.
I think Nvidia did it to prevent buyers hoarding the 3080 and use them for mining, because come on 8000 cores, per a GPU that's 32000 cores for 4 gpu's at $4500, hell that would be crazy sadly would never ever happen.
However the 3090 is sli compatible, so that's $10000 but adding 4 of these cards( 50,000 cores, stripping the fans to keep it modular) taking up 3 lanes per GPU isn't possible it's impossible due to the size.
So Nvidia has thought about it, and the 2080ti was Nvidia big mistake, and the reason the 3080 is priced well is because Nvidia overestimated and didn't realize 1080ti customers would not budge.
So after research, the 3090 is a great card, but if amd offer compute cores high with crossfire, while making it affordable, those GPUs will be even more expensive and over hoarded, making Nvidia 3080 even more desirable.
Mining doesn't use sli.
Depends on the application, mining was a example.
It actually makes sense. How many games nowadays support SLI well? Also, the gain generally is not worth it.
It's a good strategic move. Taking SLI out of mainstream cards, force developers to go DLSS path. How will AMD respond? Clearly it will take some time for game developers to implement AMD's equivalent of DLSS.
It actually makes sense. How many games nowadays support SLI well? Also, the gain generally is not worth it.
Not quite, NVLink can actually scale quite well. Yes, you won't get 100% scaling, but in games which support it (i.e. games where you will need it), the scaling can be close to 60 - 70%. It can, for example, make 4K 120Hz achievable. This may or may not be valuable to you.
I highly suspect that the reason Nvidia isn't supporting NVLink on the 3080 is because 2 x 3080's are basically the same cost as a 3090 and will probably be faster.
shopping Express $636
2070 Super $805 use code PARTY21 to take off $169
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gigabyte-GeForce-RTX-2060-SUPER-…
Your link clearly stated "RTX 2060 Super" …
Oops typo
Really hoping we can get the FE cards in AU (or US import on Amazon) as the 3070/3080 FE seems to be the only 2 slot cards available (for SFFPC builds)
eBay listings for second hand 2080tis still selling around the 1k mark. Who is buying at these prices!?
have to be careful with the "sold" search as it includes listing endings as sold (and you have to read the detail to see which status each item is). But yeah still some actually selling.
Well the videos are coming in, all checks out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7nYy7ZucxM
Paying anything more than 800AUD for a used 2080ti doesn't make much sense unless you cant wait or stock is very low.
Suppose we can even afford a 3090, which a lot of you say you are buying one. Who makes a case big enough for it and six 3.5 inch hard drives?
Just one example:
https://www.centrecom.com.au/antec-p101-silent-mid-tower-atx…
8 3.5" bays. You get to have 2 additional 3.5 inch HDDs unconnected.
Case is not an issue. 8K TV / monitor is not going to be cheap.
Anyone know anything about release dates and prices for the 3060 and 3050? They should be more to my limited budget…
We don't know their specifications, their product name let alone a release date. So anything you read or watch online is 100% pure speculation
and tbh the more you read of the speculations the more astray your purchasing decisions will be. Better to be patient and wait for real news
Sure :) I am hoping the 3060 will be able to play cyberpunk 2077 well. We shall see :)
the answer to that is obviously yes; the real question is how well.
Someone is offering $765 for my 2080 super. Should I consider selling it? I am worried the new GPUs might not be available after release.
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Only reason not to sell is that the 3070 might be hard to find, otherwise it's well and truly worth it.
Absolutely. And only accept cash, to avoid potential PayPal return scam. Just subsist on integrated graphics until prices and availability normalise.
Last month I sold my MSI RTX2060 Super for $620 on Ebay. Guess I got lucky.
FYI people if you didn't already guess that this was going to happen. Founders Edition cards won't be sold in/to the Australian market.
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/09/nvidia-rtx-3090-3080-3070-…
Yeah I actually liked the design of the founders edition this time around, bummer.
How much do people reckon a MSI 3070 gaming x trio will cost? Surely way more then 500 USD. I'm assuming the lower end galax cards would be closer to the MSRP.
probably somewhere in the $850-$1000 AUD range.
Since FE arent coming to australia you bet AIB and retailers are going to rip our ass. Im betting new prices 3070 = 1k and 3080 = 1.5k
Prove me wrong though. Im waiting.
Given what happened with the Pascal release I think that is very likely. Unless board partner factories were working overtime the past 3 months.
cant we just order from the Nvidia website? Says there 3080 was around 1.1k, whats with the 300-400 extra?
@Freestyle: No you can't order from nVidias website because they said they aren't selling in Australia. Price difference because AIB will now have no control for supply and demand is high… Plus no competition with FE also because of corona. Just like the monitors that increased from their MSRP LG 27GL850 being $750 suddenly being $900.
@HeyHeyHeyIsItADeal: they said they arent selling yet they still have the “notify me” thing up on the website so its just weird
Also Kotaku isnt the most credible source of information
Since FE arent coming to australia you bet AIB and retailers are going to rip our ass. Im betting new prices 3070 = 1k and 3080 = 1.5k
I agree, I've purchased almost every generation of graphics cards going back to the 6800 Ultra and it's almost always the case that launch MSRPs are largely meaningless, but the issue has significantly worsened since Pascal.
There's no chance you'll be getting a 3070 for ~$800 - $850 for another 6 months, similarly for the 3080 being ~$1100 - $1200. My personal predictions are that the 3070 and 3080 will launch around 30 - 40% higher than their MSRP.
This is backed up by data from the last launch. For example, if you have a look at a "good" 2080 Ti from the US (all prices are USD):
https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07GJKR7RW?context=searc…
Remember that the 2080 Ti was launched around September 2018. The prices on this Gigabyte card was around $1500 USD for at least 6 months until March 2019. Even then, it still sat at around $1200 - $1300 and it didn't really hit $1200 USD until September 2019 (i.e. 1 year after launch).
Here's a higher end 2080 Ti, the ASUS Strix OC model,
https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07HY6QWXN?context=searc…
Not sure if it wasn't available before Jan 2019, or if there was just no data, but again, it's the same story, it floated around $1200 - $1300 for much of its life and never really hit the Nvidia MSRP.
And remember the Founder's Edition 2080 Ti that was supposed to be $1200?
https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07HWMDDMK?context=searc…
It launched at above $1600 and never hit even $1300 until almost a year after launch.
If you need any more evidence that I'm not just cherry-picking cards, here's an MSI Gaming X TRIO 2080 Ti:
https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B07GJ3ZD69?context=searc…
At launch (Sept 2018), it was around $1800 and it only dropped below $1400 around 8 months after launch and only hit $1200 (briefly) basically a year after launch. We've seen prices creep up since supply has dried up (since 2080 Ti's are no longer being produced).
This is the US, which is arguably a much more efficient market than here in AU. Basically, the long and short of it is that if you think you're getting a 3070 for ~$850 this year, there's no chance. Given the fire sale on 2080 Ti's on eBay right now, if I see any 2080 Ti's for $800 - $900, I'd seriously consider picking one up. I think the reality is going to hit when the 3080 supposedly launches on Sept 17th, that prices are going to be very high.
how many of u are gaming on a gaming monitor or 4k monitor? if u spending +1k on a gaming monitor, arent u better of getting a 2020 4k tv monitor with vrr/hdmi2.1 port?
Depends on your priorities. Nvidia selling point is not just resolution but also high framerate and very low input latency of less than 30ms with Nvidia Reflex
A 60hz display updates 60 times a second. Divide one second by that and you get 16.7ms frametime. This contributes to motion blurring and choppier animations, meaning it's harder to score a hit on a fast moving object. Increase your refresh rate to 144hz yields you 6.9ms, more than a halving of the frametime and consequently you a much sharper image.
Then consider processing delay on standard TV and frame buffering by the Gpu and the total input lag or latency is much higher than a high end "gaming" monitor. Explanation
But that is not as important for sightseeing or racing games, where reaction times don't matter
Australia Isn’t Getting The Nvidia RTX 3070, 3080, 3090 Founder’s Edition GPUs
https://press-start.com.au/news/tech-news/2020/09/04/austral…
whats the difference with founders edition cards?
*edit figured it out myself. it means you cant get the cool nvidia card in australia. only the asus/msi/gigabyte versions
Yup, the founders edition card ordered directly from nvidia means the price would be fixed and the card really looks cool. 3rd Party AIB would probably jack up the prices atleast for next 5 to 6 months.
This isn't confirmed yet. From the comments section:
"I just got off chat with them and they said that while they cannot comment on 3rd party articles, they were happy to confirm that the information on their website was correct and that it would indeed be available for purchase through their website for Australian customers for the advertised price."
Its good if its available, but from what I read, there is a lot of shortage on 30 series card at launch and AIBs are barely getting enough wafers. Also many pascal/vega owners skipped the turing line and there is more demand this time around. Add mining to that and all you will see is the label saying "notify me" on thier website. But am least worried, will surely wait for RDNA 2 and Ampere performance comparision and then buy sometime in feb/march time frame when prices would have settled down a bit :)
Looking at early 2021 to buy
This is going to be a bloodbath, eBay stores licking their lips.
Did someone say Jack?
If it's any consolation, those same eBay stores currently have pallets of 2080s burning a hole in their pocket.
Lenovo did a doo-doo and leaked some upcoming RTX 3070 variants
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/74916/lenovo-just-confirmed-n…
https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/…
There will be a
Looks like a big gap between 3080 ($1,139) and 3090 ($2,422) for Nvidia to fill.
If I want to build a PC during Black Friday is it better for me to buy a 3070 Founder's edition from Nvidia when it launches or wait for Black Friday deals? Any advice?
At this point with the high demand and low supply, I would get it any chance I get. I pray to nvidia gods that they will still sell the FE down under :(
computer hardware doesn't just go down in price for shopping or holiday seasons unfortunately. When the supply is limited and the demand is high, the price inflates beyond MSRP.
We've seen it happen with the first cryptomining craze when pascal GPU's were selling 20~30% above their official RRP and there is a second wave currently. I would imagine trying to buy an Ampere card before the end of 2020 is like trying to grab an ALDI special on a Saturday morning.
Thanks for the advice. Hoping retailers drop the price of 2080S/2080Ti's to $400-$600 so I can replace my wonky GTX 960. Don't know how realistic those expectations are but fingers crossed.
They'll be sent back to the supplier most likely. Previous gen GPUs rarely see much drop in price, but then retailers are sitting on lots of 20xx GPUs so who knows. I wouldn't expect a 2080S for $400-600 though.
Unsold inventory is usually held in some sort of a reserve for warranty claims, the retailer will not hang onto what is called "dead stock" and definitely won't sell them for less than what they paid for.
If someone's RTX 2080 fails in warranty period it would be cheaper to send them a unsold RTX 2000 card than it is to ship them a newer RTX3000.
anyway my Radeon 6850 with 1GB VRAM will have to hold for now. Next month it will be officially 10 year old technology.
@scrimshaw: I also find it hilarious that stores are lowering the prices of their 2080 ti's to ~$1500 brand new with full warranty and people on eBay are still trying to sell their used one's for even more than that.
@gmail92: Yeah I just saw. Prices have already dropped. Hopefully they'll drop even further. I'll probably pull the trigger on one if it drops to ~$600. I was originally gonna buy a 5700XT for $600 so if I can get a 2080 ti for that price I'll be very happy.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-rtx-3080-tuf-gam…
Got excited when I saw the add to cart - _-
Sold my 2070 super for $600 on FB marketplace. I told them RTX 3000 is imminent but they couldn't wait… I paid 670ish for it brand new.
Defs could have got north of $700 easily if I was savvy enough to sell before the announcement. Considering I paid 670 for it, claimed (and sold) a free 1tb ssd through the Gigabyte promotion and used it for almost 12 months I'm reasonably happy.
Now the waiting game begins…
Also, should be interesting to see how used RTX 2000 prices change over the next couple of months. Part of me thinks it will go up in value since it's likely for RTX 3070/3080 to be price gouged at launch due if there's minimal local stock and no FE cards available in Australia to anchor prices. At the same time, perhaps the excess stock for RTX 2000 will be cleared for cheaper and keep suppressing the used market prices.
PCCG has already dropped 2080Ti prices to $1099-1299.
So second hand market has basically crashed.
Am I crazy for trying to get a under $900 dollar RTX 2080 TI instead of waiting? I feel like actual game performance will be almost the same as the 3070 and I don't want to pause my build till early next year*
You're not alone.. getting very itchy up in here. On a GTX 960 for last 6 years!
It's a good buy if you can get it. 3070 won't be priced there on release and if early leaks are to believed, performance is pretty similar.
if you can afford it why go with a 2nd hand card?
You dont know what the seller did with that card, could've been used for a long time and not be in the best of conditions (no matter how well they try to spin it)
Prices for some cards in Germany have leaked. Not sure how credible this is but it might give you an idea on what to expect in terms of pricing for AIB cards.
https://www.techpowerup.com/271946/various-custom-rtx-3080-a…
no one should trust stupid Chinese reviews
Great news guys, Mwave will be selling FE cards https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/iqrktq/aussiesmwave…
only 3080 FE mentioned at this stage
https://www.reddit.com/r/bapcsalesaustralia/comments/it4ovq/…
Now a lottery, back to square zero here in Oz.
dont want to be early adopter only to find out a variation either super/ti is release due to amd rdna2 cards giving some competition