Lowest price seen for this model - the Wi-Fi variant of the B550-F.
Refer to ASUS's website for specifications.
This or the MSI MAG X570 Tomahawk deal? Is the price difference worth it?
That X570 is a better board. The chipset has more features, is more future proof etc. I was considering it, but a bit uneasy about a comment in that deal thread regarding a faulty board issue that's been seen a few times around if you google. Not overly common compared to the number of boards that will have been sold.. but still. For the $50 difference, it might be worth it.
On the other hand if you're on a budget and will only have one SSD and one GFX then this will probably be fine as well.
Good deal. Paid 280 for my b450 carbon max a few months back.
It was $291.xx during 21% EBay event, but can redeem $50 steam gift card, so come to under 250 at that time. The $50 gift card event has been expired now.
Did you actually get your Steam card after that promo? I still haven't received mine.
Anyone know if they releasing B650 or X670?
At this stage there won't be one for the next gen. Still X570 and B550.
I would expect refreshes of the existing motherboard line-up (e.g. Strix B550-A) but not an entirely new chipset until late next year.
Very good price!! Nice find OP
This or the Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC?
EDIT: apparently this motherboard uses Intel's faulty i225-V LAN chip, and despite claiming the issues are fixed there are still reports of issues with latest revision of silicon. Not to mention you wouldn't know whether this board has a later revision or not…
The Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AC ATX has reported USB instability issues.
I can’t find the prefect board!
Yeah they were my top 2 picks as well… annoying!
Hoping by the time Ryzen 4000 is out that both manufacturers have sorted out these issues with new silicon revisions. But again, no way of knowing until you receive the board unfortunately…
If you don't need WiFi I'd be going for the MSI B550 Tomahawk at $275 delivered from JW Computers: https://www.jw.com.au/vendors-promotions/msi-mag-b550-tomaha.... The Tomahawk gets good reviews and should have basically the same feature set as the two you've been looking at.
If you need WiFi the MSI Gaming Edge WiFi is $299 and has strong VRMs.
Am i reading the specs right?
If you use pci gen 4 on graphics card slot 16x the nvme drives won't be gen 4 16x like the x570
So essentially you only get 1 true pci gen 4 16x slot?
I plan to have rtx 3080 gen4 16x with a gen4 16x nvme, doesn't seem like b550 can do it?
You get one gen 4 x16 slot for your graphics card AND one gen 4 M.2 slot for your nvme drive - both are connected directly to the CPU.
The second x16 and M.2 slots are gen 3 and are connected to the chipset. Both are capped at x4 speed.
That's not what the specs say…
3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors
1 x PCIe 4.0 x16 (x16 mode)
3rd Gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors :
1 x M.2_1 socket 3, with M key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 storage devices support(SATA & PCIe 4.0 x4 mode)
to my knowledge:
pcie 4 x8 = pcie 3 x16
pcie 4 x4 = pcie 3 x8…
The top-most M.2 slot is connected directly to the CPU, and supports PCIe 4.0 x4.
The top-most PCIe x16 slot is also connected directly to the CPU, and supports PCIe 4.0 x16.
The bottom M.2 slot is connected to the chipset, and supports PCIe 3.0 x4.
The bottom PCIe x16 slot is also connected to the chipset, but only supports PCIe 3.0 x4.
You would choose an x570 board if you intend to use SLI, or if you have an NVMe raid card that gets installed into a PCIe 4.0 x16 slot.
@Heero: You know pcie 4 at x4 is not actually pcie4 speeds right? it’s just a marketing gimmick way of saying gen3 x 8 speed…
gen 4 pcie ssds take full advantage of the gen4 x16 speeds 5000+mbps (980 pro is said to do 7000-8000mbps).
My samsung 970 pro does max 3500ish on gen3 x16 which is more bandwidth than gen4 x4?
@neosin: It's PCIE gen4x4 or PCIE gen3x4. PCIE is an electrical standard, not a marketing gimmick.
If you have a PCIEgen4 NVMe in a PCIE g4 x4 slot you will get twice the bandwidth as a gen3 device in the same slot, a gen3 will still run at x4 in the PCIE gen4 x4 slot.
Really good board for the price, the tomahawk b550 at this price doesn't have wifi, x570 tomahawk is another $100 but you only really get that 2nd PCIE g4 x4 m.2 slot.
@neosin: Hey neosin, I get what you are thinking however you are not clear on the PCIe generations and lanes. Most M.2 drives can only run up to x4 lanes, so trust me PCIe 4.0 x4 is the full bandwidth required by those drives. Think of it like this; different slots and devices have a set amount of lanes they are electrically wired to use, and each of those lanes can be faster or slower depending on if the device and slot use Gen 4.0, 3.0, 2.0. 1.0 etc.
Your 970 Pro is a Gen 3.0 x4 device. A 980 Pro is a Gen 4.0 x4 device. They are physically wired to only x4 lanes and will make use of the generational improvements only if both the slot and device connected to it adhere to Gen 4.0. If the slot or the device only run at Gen 3.0 then they are backwards compatible but you'll only get x4 lanes of 3.0.
If you put it in a slot with x16 (say you had a M.2 to PCIe slot adaptor card) then it will still only make use of the x4 lanes, whether those be Gen 4.0 or 3.0.
You'd need a card which can operate over more lanes in order to make use of a x8 or x16 slot. So some of the latest GPUs and NVMe RAID cards which would not fit into the M.2 slot anyway. The thing is the current Ryzen CPU's only accept up to x24 PCIe Gen 4.0 lanes at a time. Normally you have x16 to the top GPU slot, x4 to the top M.2 slot, and x4 to the chipset. Any more than that connected to the CPU will start sharing lanes with the other slots e.g two x8 GPU slots and one x4 M.2 slot would work.
This is a great board, btw. I nearly bought this exact one a month ago but decided to go mATX instead and got the AsRock B550M Steel Legend for $215, which is also a fantastic board for the price!
@Zenskas: My bad, you are correct
I found out a top gen 4 nvme only uses x4 bandwith and not x16 like i thought :)
Thanks for the explanation.
@neosin: Ultimately, the choice between X570 and B550 came down to the following reasons for me:
X570 needs active cooling, fan may fail after many years. B550 is passively cooled, a massive advantage.
X570 gives you the ability to use 2 or 3 PCIe Gen4 NVMe SSDs, whereas B550 gives you only 1 Gen4 SSD, and up to 2 more Gen3 SSDs.
There is a difference in USB ports as well but that is a smaller difference.compared to the above.
Does this have front usb c connector?
No, it doesn't. You would either need one of these, or a PCIe card.
This or this?: https://www.amazon.com.au/ASUS-TUF-X570-Plus-Motherboard-Lig...
For anyone interested in B550 boards - Hardware Unboxed did a good series on thermals for 24 different B550 boards.
Results are shown in this video with temps at around the 13 minute mark: https://youtu.be/JxczZChFaZI?t=785
This particular board performed well, although the MSI Gaming Edge WiFi was probably the price to performance stand out.
what am i missing?
what is different about these two mobo's? is it just the wifi? and if so isnt this a better option than ASUS ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING if u dont need wifi? it also has a great VRM
according to https://youtu.be/_7PkZwY9PWM?t=881 (set youtube time of thermals test as well)
Yeah pretty much the X570 is a better board for that price,
On other consideration is also the B550 comes with 2.5 gigabit lan, but that's a pretty niche need over 1 gigabit
land of aus… i dont think were even close to 1gig yet lol!! dang it… :(
Gigabit LAN is mainly used for home and office networks (faster data transfer to and from a media device, for example).
@Heero: Yeah, my NAS goes up to 2.5 gigabit, and if my work was contingent on doing lots of work over network files it would be a nice upgrade.
do we have any details on whether these will support the upcoming ryzen 5000 chips?
It's been confirmed by AMD that all B550 and X570 boards will support zen 3 with a BIOS update. Clicky.
nice, I have a spare 3700x (amz shipping stuffup) laying around. might refresh my 6yo box for cheap.
Assuming you don't want PCIe 4, which is most people, wouldn't it be better to use a previous generation X series chipset rather than a current generation B series motherboard?
Holding off until have firm ETA for RTX 3080 order. Maybe a better option than this then.
holding off until new zen 3 cpus. who knows might get even cheaper