Any Groups Importing Cheap Chinese Phones & Tablets

Chinese phones and tablets are really cheap in China, but the middle men eat up a chunk of cost to export it…

Are there any NON-PROFIT groups that import them at cost?

Probably not the flagships but better cost-performance ones

NB. NON-PROFIT no wiseguys thanks heh

Comments

  • +4

    Every time I buy a new phone or tablet the store tells me that they are selling them to me, after the usual haggling for a discount, for less than their cost so they must be non profit making companies.

    Not what you are looking for OP?

    • The Mediatek Dimensity 1000 or 820 Xiaomi phones??? LG has the Velvet with T-Mobile with the chipset

      The price will be lower than Snapdragons, but better than the SD7-series

      3-5 people, ebay has them but dont know the sellers.

  • +8

    Are there any NON-PROFIT groups that import them at cost?

    Isn't that basically called import it yourself ie. buy it from Aliexpress etc?

    Why would anyone put up a big chunk of capital to buy tablets and phones for poor first world people who are still a lot richer than most of the world. You might need to elaborate so we can bring out our little violins.

    • Three - four people contacting chinese sellers are less likely to get ripped off

      • Why would a group buy have any risk?

        • Exactomundo !!! if you buy overseas as one person, you have less power

          • @[Deactivated]: What? lol

          • +1

            @[Deactivated]: to have buying power, you need to buy in bulk, not 6, not 12.
            when you buy in bulk, you have extra cost and extra risk. that's why the middle man needs to make profit.

            • @Bargain80: OP's starting to sound more and more like a case of 'wanting something for nothing'.
              OP, now that you understand the risk and cost (initial payment, damaged/missing shipments, risks of getting scammed, end buyers pull out) the middle man needs to wear, instead of asking someone else to do it all for free (or 'minimal cost', to make it not their while), why not step up and wear that risk yourself?
              You know, be the non-profit guy for the greater good?

            • @Bargain80: OP sounds like a 13 year old. Someone closed to me went to China to import a whole container load of stuff. Lets just say when the container was opened it is B grade version of the product they saw initially is a polite way of putting it.

              Reason why there is such a big mark up is because someone along the line will try to rip you off and it is priced for "the risk"

  • +3

    What is the point of trading (buying goods in one market to sell in another) and not making a profit?

    If you buy in one market and don't sell, you lose money.

    There's no charity in sales.

    • Six of one, half a dozen of another….

      Xiaomi can cut the middle men and sell directly to consumers, but when they dump their old stock, the middle men can profit but not exorbitantly heh

      • +2

        Xiaomi want the middle men. They buy the product immediately, in bulk. Once money changes hands, its good for the base company. Xiaomi (all companies) need the return for the marketing, research and production of the product. Middlemen control a market because they have a good price, reputation, and they move the product.

        Video cards- Nvidia will sell direct, their founder's edition. Its the most direct way to buy the card. Asus (one of many middlemen) will by the card and put their custom cooler on it, market it, and sell it for $20 more. Asus puts their marketing ontop of Nvidia's marketing and sell in volumes to their customers. Nvidia is happy, sells cards for a good price to asus, because they know they will sell. Risk is minimised, sales maximised.

        Instead of thinking, wishing and hoping to find a distributor of cheap chinese goods (with no service or warranty), untaxed by australia and unprofited by the middlemen, learn more about the industry and take the risk in becoming a middleman for a unique product.

        • -6

          Ozbargain is for Aussie Bargains, not for two bit entrepreneurs LOL

          Aussies want a bargain, or goods at reasonable prices

          And I am looking at community groups not shitey wanna be Bezos?

          • +5

            @[Deactivated]:

            Ozbargain is for Aussie Bargains, not for two bit entrepreneurs LOL

            You'd be surprised. You see the associated tag on bargains listed? They are all entrepreneurs. LOL

            Aussies want a bargain, or goods at reasonable prices

            That's everyone, everywhere.

            And I am looking at community groups not shitey wanna be Bezos?

            Start one, or are you a two-bit wannabe Bezos customer? Enjoy your non-profits on minimum purchases. Start on alibaba.com. You'll get a great reputation with distributors with your sage and savvy business knowledge LOL

      • +1

        Isn't there a Xiaomi official store in AliExpress?

        • +2

          Not charity pricing mate. OP wants Xiaomi gate pricing.

          • @netjock: That'll never happen if Xiaomi doesn't know him from a bar of soap.

  • Not sure what OP is looking for but in China group/community buy is a thing. https://technode.com/2020/07/28/the-battle-for-chinas-commun…

    Also there is a difference between "Ripoff" and "Profit". Even grey market importer makes a profit with the exchange, although you think they could be "ripping you off" by making money. There is no free lunch. Call it what you will, people need to make some "money" for their living too.

    Let's turn the table, OP would you import a large quantity of items and not make any money?

  • +1

    You're facing a lot of criticism op, but I think the central idea has merit. Where you're going wrong is looking for an established group. I think it's a thing that if you want, you have to start it yourself.
    Imagine if you got 10 or 20 similarly minded and motivated ozbargainers to each chip in 1000 bucks. You could use that to go over there, find discount sellers, make contacts, and acquire a bunch of inventory to send back to Australia for resale.

    You'd be able to get your cheap prices, all members of the group would be able to get things at very cheap prices, while those outside the group would be left to pay the inflated prices that help fund the whole thing.

    • +3

      Imagine if you got 10 or 20 similarly minded and motivated ozbargainers to each chip in 1000 bucks

      Okay. Xiaomi Pocco X3 NFC is like $350 on AliExpress.

      20 people chip in $1000 to send OP over there so you could spend $1000 to buy a $350 phone?

      If it is a charity case, then OP spends their money go to China. Find price then tell everyone here is the break down of all my costs therefore this is the charity price. Finding someone else to do charity is a tough task to ask.

      I've seen paperwork on importing. Container of stuff for a $2 shop might cost AUD$10k. Shipping is AUD$1k by sea, when you have to customs clear it is $300, if it sits on the dock because ABF wants to Xray is another $100 per day (3 days free but if it lands on Friday, you only get Sat + Sun and ABF don't work on weekends), truck transfer from wharf to warehouse another $600, GST is 10%. Then you need people to unload it, cost of warehousing, people to sell it. Your $10k just went to $15k. Don't forget you get breakage etc. You $10k of stuff just increase by 50%. Before it gets to retail, don't forget retail rents, people on shop floor etc.

      Not saying it is a reason to buy stuff retail but I am saying it might seem like there is a mark up but then it disappeared into other places and feeds different people.

      • Well I was just throwing out numbers, it might need to be more than that. Depends on how clever/personable you are I guess. The main takeaway was that while the prices on the ground over there might be cheap, it takes a certain amount of seed capital to start the process of transporting it from there to here. Not hundreds or thousands of dollars, but tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands (mmm, yummy).
        Even if those were once of costs, which they aren't, they still need to be recouped just to hit zero, even-steven.

        Container of stuff for a $2 shop might cost AUD$10k

        That actually sounds pretty cheap to me. Have you been inside a shipping container? They. are. huge. You could probably fit 5000 regular sized postage satchels worth of goods inside one. To me all that sounds like the simple part. The hard part is managing all the people, coordinating all their wants with reality. Like OP, it's very common for people receiving their fare share to think they are getting a raw deal. Once they lose faith in the integrity of the system, they stop trying as hard, and become more open to corruption, and once that happens any gains made by coordinating as a group become lost.

      • yeah, and not to forget "warranty" - how do you deal with returns and all - in China, I would assume you goto the shop to get it fixed. Over here, the logistics of returning or reseller managed warranty - the cost just adds up.

        If anyone bought a product from overseas and took it back to their home country, and it broke - s/he only has themselves to "blame", if you get it via a local distributor/reseller - people would go all salty, if the message was suck it up if it broke, as they were purchased from overseas and its the buyers problem…

        • yeah, and not to forget "warranty"

          Who are you going to sue when things go wrong. A local company you might get a few cents in the dollar in liquidation but if you want to take a court case to China good luck.

          • -1

            @netjock: Trump will do it

            Make UhmeriKKKa Grate Again

  • I am a loser who imports things just for the heck of it. Sometimes I also incur a loss.

    This is by design and feeds my inner loser well.

  • Why on gods green earth would someone take all of the risk of bulk buying crappy phones from China, shipping them all here, and then sell them at cost?

    Why don't you do this op? Are you the new ilove?

    • -4

      LOL you again Sunshine,

      I am talking about a small group NOT a bunch of Morons fighting over scraps from Amazon and Ebay

      PeoplePower

      • Then you do it. No one is going to take all the risk for no reward.

  • BTW non profit doesn't mean they don't make a profit, it just means that the profit is used to further their goals. So you're not going to be getting anything cheaper with a non profit company. I think the keywords you're looking for are no profit, which you're probably going to realise are hard to find, because "at cost" is a hard thing to define.

    • -3

      I am talking about a small group NOT a bunch of Morons fighting over scraps from Amazon and Ebay

      PeoplePower

      • Then you're going to have to take the lead and start this small group. No one will do anything for you if you don't lead by example and put in the hard work.

  • -5

    I am talking about a small group NOT a bunch of Morons fighting over scraps from Amazon and Ebay

    PeoplePower

    • You can say that again.

  • +1

    Based on the OPs strategies and recent forums posts. I would infer that “OP wants to have the cake and eat it too”. Good luck.

  • If OP is really serious. u can get stuff from establiahed players who do gray channel just need to know the right people. Here is wholesale price list for xiaomi products from a source( and i dont do this business). Min order value has to be 3k to 5k $ depending on item as its a smaller player bigger player dont talk below few hundred or thousand units or 10k$ min. U need to figure out shipment /courier and customs cost so either pick up in shenzhen or hongkong. Availability only confirmed after serious order discussion. Product Warranty is not offerred by seller as its bulk gray stock so depends if xiaomi will honor warranty in australia. for chinese, global or EU version of items. all this comes with risk and costs and i am not sure if these prices are attarctive or not.

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  • Did not realise but Ozbargain has a group buy section.

    But not active

  • OP, this is an example if you want to start anything https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/573765

  • -1

    Oh geez, people!

    Iam not looking to make money, just looking empower the little people from the wanna be Jeff Bezos, and clowns like Palmer

    • They exist and are quite popular. But they are built on community and trust and works because we don't have jackasses. Your toxicity and immaturity means your drama is never worth it for any of these groups. We don't need a self entitled drama queen who can't even track their own data usage to empower us haha

      • -1

        The fact that there are plenty of Aussies looking for mobile deals shows that your groups suxxx

        Thats why we have to beg for leftovers on Amazon Prime and Ebay flash sales

  • This is like a waste of time toxic post. I hope OP learns from his mistake

    • -1

      Well there is a group buy section on OzBargain

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