Dear Oz Bargainers,
I am based on Sydney. I am looking to buy a brand-new Rav4 Cruiser AWD. Current advertised driveaway price is $50,853. I haven't contacted any dealers yet for a bargain. What's the percentage of discount I can expect. Has anybody bought recently? If you could, please share the prices and what was the waiting time now?
I could guess, but I hope Oz bargainers would find a way all the time :-).
Kayak carrying model?
What does this mean?
Lol. Got it. I read this :P
@PNPH: Also to answer your question it would most likely be a no. Since there isn't much stock available and people are willing to pay as much as the dealer wants. You might have more luck with a demo
@perhaps: Re the demonstrator, you might want to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQctuPp3kjU
@SteveB00: Gave up half way through the video.
Just talked one analogy after another strung together with random words.
An expert you say?
@Leo Getz: "He* says. The point is that 'demonstrators' are often cars that have been given to the press to review and, depending on the type of vehicle and who drove it, may have been thrashed.
@SteveB00: There's a difference in demo models. An actual demo, you'll see being sold by the new car department, and you'll be the first owner in the book. Press cars etc are found on the used car lot, and the first owner will be the manufacturer.
I've seen cars that were on "The Block" and first owner in the book was Suzuki…
@Leo Getz: I know who you're talking about without even having to look at the link. Expert? Yep, self proclaimed and everything.
This will never get old
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@mapax. I am a user only since 2013. Thought of becoming a member just to post this
If your good at haggling you can probably squeeze car mats out of them!
:-(
Car mats come standard now (at least on the Yaris Cross)!
Ask for a full tank of fuel instead. Use that money to buy some tailored heavy duty rubber ones.
Full tank and floor mats come standard
Do you need roof racks with that?
Yes. It would be useful
Check whirlpool
48k or so seems achievable
Awesome :-), Do you mind post the link here?
Could you be any lazier?
Know someone who just bought a RAV4 hybrid, not sure what spec. Delivery will be in May. Didn’t get a lot off RRP.
Dealer knew they didn’t need to work hard to sell the car, knew someone else would buy it if friends didn’t and knew there was a reasonable wait list. All factors that lead to little discount.
Now sit back and wait for some car buying expert to tell you that 10-15% is minimum discount you should achieve.
Agree with you completely. Worse case I can wait for some more time and see how the market behave….
Yeah I looked at these last month but found they weren't even really interested in showing me the car and I'm sure it's due to demand (I did get the 3+ month wait time out of them after they unlocked as they wandered off) so between that and the fact it's on the larger end of what I'm looking for I've dismissed it as an option. I'm sure I could get a discount but it wouldn't be much.
Maybe going at the end of the month (depending on how they are doing with sales targets) and being flexible (wait for delivery rather than appearing in a hurry and wanting it now) should help. As the below comment says $1k is achievable I would definitely start at $3k and expect to walk back to $1.5k - $2k.
Usually this may help but I've bought dozens of cars and they genuinely just weren't interested as soon as I said RAV4 hybrid. They clearly have enough sales and no stock that they're not willing to put in any work for a sale.
I did look at RAV4 Cruiser last week. The dealer I went to only gave us less than $1k discount (incl all accessories) and waiting time for the car is around 3-5 months. Not much haggling happened as the sales person was certain they could just sell it to the next potential customer.
$50k in my mind seems too much money for a RAV4. You can get a proper 4WD for that money, like a Pajero Sport with a rear diff, instead of a lifted Camry.
Te RAV 4 is AWD not 4WD and is also a Hybrid. (Not sure about the Pajero)
Yeah. I know. I'm saying why would you pay for a shitty AWD system, when you can get a proper 4WD system for less money.
And not all Rav4 are hybrid. The OP didn't mention a hybrid Rav 4. And with the new per km road taxes implemented in some states, hybrids are not worth buying.
The new per km road taxes dont apply to these hybrids. Only plug-in hybrids and fully electric vehicles.
Why would you buy a ‘proper’ 4wd when all you need is a Camry wagon? Unfortunatey the only Camry wagon they sell here is a rav4
I wish they would make a Camry wagon
We had a V6 Camry wagon. It was a great car.
why would anyone consider or pay 50k for a Rav4?
Why not, we looked at one last year but managed to get my current car sorted out. I'm not sure what else is out there with the RAV's features and quality for that price.
@EightImmortals: See above. Better car, less money. One amongst many. You could probably pick up a 2.0 BMW X3 for similar money at the end of the month.
@[Deactivated]: In what way is the Pajero Sport a better car? Except for 4WD and more space (both of which one may not need), I'd say the RAV4 is better in pretty much every other objective measure. To list a few - fuel efficiency, reliability, resale value, driving dynamics, handing, comfort, features and performance.
A 4WD (for similar money) that you're not going to use for offroading will almost always be an interior car because you're paying for the sophisticated 4WD system that you don't need and it doesn't come cheap. Not to mention that a new top of the line Pajero Sport still costs more than the top of the line RAV4.
And the BMW X3? Have you looked at the prices and the options list? It is NEVER going to cost similar money when you have gotten it to the same spec level as a RAV4 cruiser.
@EightImmortals: The Pajero? OK will take a look, but apart from a rear diff what it makes it a better car?
Also, BMW? No thanks, I like to keep my vehicles for 10-20 years. :)
Seems plenty of people want them. Would I? Nope.
The problem isn't the car, Toyota don't tend to make bad cars, so the Rav 4 i'm sure, is fine. The problem is the price. It's too much for a small AWD front bias SUV. You can get a lot more for the money.
The problem is not the price. They are selling like hot cakes. Many people are completely happy with the vehicle and the price. Your inherent bias toward latest and greatest can’t see past that.
@Euphemistic: I've literally suggested to buy a Pajero Sport instead. How is that the latest and greatest?
My bias is that the value for money here is poor. It's a soft-roader. A CX-5 which is basically the same thing is much cheaper.
I've literally suggested to buy a Pajero Sport instead. How is that the latest and greatest?
Why would anyone buy a Pajero sport over a RAV4? If they were looking at a RAV4 they didn’t need 4wd capability nor significant towing capability. It’s a bigger, heavier, taller car not particularly suited to city traffic (being diesel). It’ll need more expensive tyres and use more fuel. Not to mention the Pajero sport having copped a serious hiding with the ugly stick, especially in the back.
@Euphemistic: Again, back to my point. Why would anyone spend $50k on so much lesser of a car? It's a class down, it's AWD. Much better off buying a CX5, or a Hyundai.
Much better off buying a CX5, or a Hyundai.
Why? CX5 isn't hybrid, and loses out to the RAV4 in every review. There's a good reason RAV4 has eclipsed CX5 sales since the new model came out in 2019.
RAV4 was Drive and Carsguide COTY in 2019, and was the country's highest selling vehicle for a couple of months in 2020 (when Hilux wasn't being delivered). Why would you suggest a pure ICE car over a hybrid, when everyone is switching to hybrid and electric?
Considering you normally suggest Tesla etc, why would you suggest anyone buy a pure petrol car unless they like worse depreciation
@[Deactivated]: Why would anyone buy a BMW? They cost even more than a RAV and don’t offer mush more than a badge - and yet they also sell fairly well. It seems that they are offer a vehicle people want (or have been conditioned to want based on a badge) at a price that is acceptable to them.
FWIW i know someone who is awaiting delivery of a near $50k RAV4. They drove lots of similar vehicles and ended up with the RAV. I don’t know exactly why, but for them it was the best vehicle from their perspective.
@Burnertoasty I feel qualified to reply as my partner has a 2020 RAV4 AWD Cruiser Hybrid and I have a 2018 Pajero Sport GLS. Both purchased new - she paid about $49,500 and I paid $1,000 more for mine (+ accessories).
I really like the RAV4. Compared to the PS, it's got a far punchier engine (it's surprisingly quick - whereas the PS is underpowered for my tastes), better fuel economy (about 30-40% better on the open road, the difference is more pronounced around town), better ride, better steering, better handling, more technology (namely rear cross traffic alert, blind spot monitoring and lane keep assist) and cheaper servicing (capped price $210 for five years - my services are generally around $400, and my next one will be about $1300). Cabin comfort, cabin noise and the multimedia systems are about lineball. Literally the only advantages the PS has is its off road ability and being a little larger.
Don't get me wrong I am happy with my PS, but if you aren't going offroad or towing there is no comparison imo.
Yeah, but there shouldn't be a comparison. The PS is a larger car. Its a more capable car. That's my point. Cars are generally priced based on size class. The Rav4 is a size and class down. It's not worth the same money. There's nothing wrong with the car itself, just the price point.
You are right. You shouldn’t be offering someone a PS when they are looking at a RAV4. If it’s was all about ‘more’ for your money you wouldn’t be able to sell anything more expensive than a Hyundai in the same class/size.
Actual negotiated RAV4 prices for various specs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/13uz5pjGx8zZ-VVc2…
Wow, very good info. Thanks
Just beware - anything before 1 July 2020 doesn't have the price increase on it - add $1300.
I paid under $47.5k with accessories for a cruiser AWD hybrid with premium paint in Brisbane less than 2 weeks ago.
Bear in mind that stamp duty and other govt costs aren't the same state to state so make sure you adjust accordingly (e.g. QLD - 2% stamp duty for hybrid + $30 plate fee + $670 for rego and CTP, Victoria - 2.8% stamp duty, $190 for premium plates for $30 for standard + whatever for rego and TAC)
Did you trade in? That affects the ‘price’ too. More off the new one, less for the old.
i am also looking to buy this, if you don't mind telling which dealer you bought yours from?
You can get them driveaway for 43k.
Waiting time 2 days.
Cruiser AWD?????
Doubt it.
I am looking to buy a brand-new Rav4 Cruiser AWD. Current advertised driveaway price is $50,853.
So a car in high demand with long wait times for delivery.
I haven't contacted any dealers yet for a bargain
LOL
I got the the Cruiser Hybrid during covid times (mid last year). Prior to receiving it (around April), I asked how long the revised wait time was for other sales and it was 14 months - there was no chance (at least for that model) of discount with such a high demand for the car.
Try a car broker though, they buy in bulk so might get you a discount. When I last order a car, they got $4000 off for me where I couldn't get anything after three dealerships spoken to.
I can’t even find one to test drive. Basically been told if I want a RAV4 I will pay full price for a vehicle I have only looked at from the outside. Can’t sit in one as they are sold before they hit the lot. Ordered a Subaru Forester Sport instead for less $$ and with $2000 worth of extras thrown in.
mind me asking how much you paid for the Forester and what state you're in?
In Vic. I’m leasing vehicle so not a lot a bargaining power. No trade in. Paying $46750 with $2200 worth of extras added in. Car list price is $46279. Have to wait 2-3 months til it’s in the country
Interesting clip where a professor explains the RAV4 hybrid transmission.
I hope I’m not too late,
I ordered a rav4 cruiser hybrid awd in atomic rush mid Feb, I added oem dash cam, bonnet protector, weather shields, tint, mats and 12 mos rego for 49k.
It’s still on order as per toyota tracking, I’m hoping to have it delivered July or Aug.
I spoke with a guy who got me a good discount, He’s Dan from The Car Concierge, (find him on facebook) or pm me for deets.
Thanks for sharing. I can’t find the button to send you a PM. Maybe you got it disabled? Anyway, do you mind sharing details about the process? Thanks :)
Hi Everyone, I’m about to buy a AWD Cruiser Hybrid (did research for a year). There’s a serious roof leaking water problem with 2019-2021 Rav4 (both hybrid and non- hybrid) in Taiwan, Japan and tow lesser extent, the USA. Assuming that the roof design is the same globally, Australia should have some RAV4 owners encountering water leakage from the roof during car wash or heavy rain. Does anyone owning a 2019-2021 RAV4 face this problem? I got so worried that I have put the brakes on my intended purchase. Thanks
Given the demand for cars at the moment you probably won't get much discount, especially with Toyota.