Food Truck Has Set up Shop a Few Doors down - Patrons Are Littering Like It's Going out of Fashion

Powlie85 on 25/02/2021 - 20:03
Last edited 27/02/2021 - 10:32 by 1 other user

Hi guys

Tldr: Food truck has set up shop down the road in western Sydney suburb - littering has increased dramatically - owner is not doing his part. Options?

EDIT: thanks everyone for lots of ideas but also confirmation that they have to do their part here. Just checked out the area and they have definitely cleaned up the area - removed, cups and cans - so talking to them and eating there has definetly helped. Just tidies and torn up receipts now - not that much of an eyesore and also a nightmare to pick up. They've put a sign up: 'DO NOT park in neighbors driveway' after this queenslander who moved in across the road had a bit of a freak out 🤣

We live in a row of cottages and on the corner of our street a food truck set up shop on a disused car lot. It's a major busy Sydney road.

The food truck is doing well - which is great - 5-6 people have jobs over there. The patrons unfortunately are chucking cups, cans, bottles, plates, receipts out the windows of their cars and in two weeks the street's turned into a dump. It was actually pretty tidy before as residents were looking after it). Some of their stuff is even making it into our garden (plastic bags).

I've spoken to the owner and he said he can only tell the people to not litter (which he doesn't). I suggested they should clean up once a day. He wasn't enthused and they pick up rubbish once a week, but are not very thorough.

The residents of our row of 5 cottages usually pick up rubbish when they see it - but their shit is too much and I feel this might have kicked off a downward spiral.

Not only are the patrons thrashing the place, in the eyes of one of my neighbours, they're casting a bad light on the ethnicity of the patrons (98% of their customers). Another neighbour has actually gotten into a fight with a guy who parked in his driveway.

Options?
Opinions?

EDIT: did a bit of digging as advised by some of the users here and found a form they need to fill out. Bottom right of page 2 states some of the waste responsibilities of the owner. We' re just about 10meters from the location but patrons park all the way down the street.
[Form]
(https://www.cityofparramatta.nsw.gov.au/sites/council/files/…)

Food & Grocery

Comments

  • picklewizard on 26/02/2021 - 09:33

    Littering Like It's Going out of Fashion

    Littering is in fashion?

    • Powlie85 on 26/02/2021 - 11:17

      It seems to be quite 'popular' sadly.

  • iknowtj on 26/02/2021 - 10:05

    Tell him to spend $50 on a few bins - can't be this hard.

  • Out24q on 26/02/2021 - 10:07
    +4

    Use the Snap, Send Solve app.

    I've used it with success.

    • Powlie85 on 26/02/2021 - 11:17
      +1

      Had no idea this existed - they just gained another power user. Thanks

  • Dagwood-Dog on 26/02/2021 - 10:28

    Put dog poo in there bins.

    • BartholemewH on 27/02/2021 - 18:45

      Put it in their icecream. Seemed to work for a while in Coogee.

  • DarkOz on 26/02/2021 - 10:48
    +1

    The local council could deal with it. They will issue the food truck a notice to comply or else move along.

  • dogboy on 26/02/2021 - 10:53
    +3

    What is wrong with people who litter? Is it poor upbringing, lack of care for our environment or just apathy? I used to live near a school and the kids would litter all along our street which was infuriating. Maybe the government needs to run some ad campaigns or something to coerce people into being good humans and to have some respect for their environment and fellow humans.

    • orangetrain on 26/02/2021 - 12:05
      +4

      No enforcement of littering with fines. I've reported it before and still see people do it, even regulars.

      In Japan, there's no litter because police spent decades fining/jailing people that its practically cultural to take rubbish home.

      • OzBarAnon on 26/02/2021 - 14:29
        +1

        Agreed. The only solution to deal with people who don't actually care about keeping the place nice is punishment. Being nice only gets you so far, and quite frankly, there should be repercussions for shitting the place up and ruining it for the people that live there.

    • shaybisc on 26/02/2021 - 18:22
      +1

      Got to be the parents. If I ever threw rubbish out the car window or anywhere else as a child I would have got a stern talking to and a sharp rap over the knuckles.

  • JimB on 26/02/2021 - 11:06

    Some people are pigs.

    Speak to the food truck and request they clean up the area once they close each night.

    If they don't comply, I'm more than willing to piss all over their truck and leave my turd on the parking lot.

    • Powlie85 on 26/02/2021 - 11:19

      Done that - they do it once a week perhaps and are not thorough or perhaps don't pick up where it can't be proven beyond doubt it's theirs (like coke cans even though they're next to a bunch of their paper cups)

      • JimB on 26/02/2021 - 11:40

        Time to start pissing all over the truck and throwing your household rubbish that doesn't blow away all over the parking lot.

      • trapper on 26/02/2021 - 12:30

        Rubbish attracts rubbish though, they should be cleaning up every night if they want this business to last long.

  • mrvaluepack on 26/02/2021 - 11:22

    "they're casting a bad light on the ethnicity of the patrons"

    Out of curiosity, do you mind sharing which ethnicity?

    • Powlie85 on 26/02/2021 - 11:29
      +5

      My neighbor's words. I won't go into their background as it doesn't really influence how I achieve a cleaner street. Littering scumbags come from all sorts of countries - even this one. But in people's perception they might apply this experience to other people from a similar background that perhaps don't litter.

      With that said I see what he means. If you spoke to me face to face you would probably be able to pick where I'm from. As a person of that background, I'm aware of the fact that I do also have a representative role when I go and travel or live in a foreign country. I feel responsible for helping forge the image of my home country with people abroad.

    • [Deactivated] on 27/02/2021 - 12:33
      +2

      Lebs and Indians obviously 😂

  • MoonlapseVertigo on 26/02/2021 - 11:24
    -1

    Let me guess….are the majority of the customers wearing Nike TNs and wearing LV bum bags, driving WRXs, and look like they are from a middle eastern background?

    Not surprised…

    note: Two of my best mates are of Lebanese heritage and are the most respectful and tidy people I've ever known….makes me wonder how come 98% of these dudes are so friendly and well behaved….and then the other 2% Nike TN wearing gimps are so disrespectful to the environment by dumping rubbish like this.

    • Autonomic on 26/02/2021 - 15:02
      -2

      Congrats on being racist I guess

    • Orico on 26/02/2021 - 21:02
      -4

      BEcause the minority were not given the same opportunities as those who grew up closer to the city. They were cast out west, not given a good education and struggled to get a job.

  • TheBird on 26/02/2021 - 11:24

    Find the owner of the unused car lot. Suggest there's rent to be made and liability/cleanup issues.

    • Powlie85 on 26/02/2021 - 11:31

      Spoken to the guy - he asked me if mcdonald's should come clean up when people leave their mcdonalds litter in the street (maccas is a 3 minute drive away). I told him that the residents pick up the occasional maccas waste and 7/11 cups.

      The owner is a bit of a dodgy guy. He owns another property behind us and rents out this 'garden shed' and the house to a bunch of young guys - they live there in squalid conditions as the shed is not up to building standards. I've had a look when I went there to trim my trees that were hanging over. Also no stink pipe and the back garden smells of sewage at times.

      So basically no support from him either.

      • JimB on 26/02/2021 - 11:38
        +5

        Call the council on the dodgy building being rented.

      • ozhunter on 26/02/2021 - 15:06
        +1

        he asked me if mcdonald's should come clean up when people leave their mcdonalds litter in the street (maccas is a 3 minute drive away).

        It's a yes or no question…

        • Powlie85 on 26/02/2021 - 15:45
          +1

          Says who? I don't give a toss about what kinda answer they guy expects. It's easy basically - if he wants rental income then he better speak to his tenant. Because thanks to all the resourceful folks on here, I've got plenty of ideas know as to how to make it their problem again - rather than them letting create problems for us residents. It's simple really - no food, truck no problem.

          • ozhunter on 26/02/2021 - 15:48
            -7

            @Powlie85: Didn't anything less than a moronic answer from you.

            If someone asks you if you like the blue or red painting, then you say, "I like ice cream", you don't think you'd come off as an idiot?

            But if he isn't legally allowed to have the food truck there, then that up to the council to take it up with him.

            • Powlie85 on 26/02/2021 - 18:38
              +1

              @ozhunter: Not making much sense. I guess you are what it say on the tin…

  • trapper on 26/02/2021 - 12:28
    +1

    Man wtf is wrong with people dumping rubbish everywhere.

    The cops need to do a blitz or two and fine all these littering scumbags.

  • PopCounty on 26/02/2021 - 12:35

    I would take photos of all the rubbish littered and put a big banner with photos near the truck.
    1. Stating… Don't be that person.
    2. No, it's not Business Owners' responsibilities. Would you support a business which doesn't care about its causes?
    3. Signed by the neighbours.

    Off course put this with Police first to make sure you don't break any laws.

  • kiitos on 26/02/2021 - 13:18

    Is noise also a problem, or just the littering?

    • Powlie85 on 26/02/2021 - 15:41

      Occasionally only - but not really.

  • Dack Smith on 26/02/2021 - 13:23
    +1

    You’ll find that people who litter are usually ones you want to exclude from the human gene pool.

    Unlike Singapore, Australia has one of the most useless and unenforceable anti-littering policies known to man.

    Its personal responsibility and accountability, but you’ll find that litterbugs are basically human waste, so they do in fact complement each other well and look very similar to each other lol

    • petry on 26/02/2021 - 13:50

      yeah its funny how many aussie laws and policies are useless and unenforceable - its like they were designed to be like that - shock horror

  • askme69 on 26/02/2021 - 14:40
    +5

    https://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/your-environment/litter-and-illeg…

    Dob them all in. They won't litter again.
    Ps: take photos as well

  • afah0447 on 26/02/2021 - 16:19
    -2

    Tin of paint over his truck at midnight.

    • LFO on 26/02/2021 - 20:52
      -1

      Water their "garden" with hydrogen sulphide (rotten egg smell)

      Or be like Greenpeace and use butyric acid, which is a noxious stink bomb, and the smell stays there for a few days.

  • cashmeoutside on 26/02/2021 - 17:19
    +1

    Are they selling curry or kebabs?

    • striker5950 on 27/02/2021 - 15:53

      according to OP its vegetarian curry so no meat ;(

  • [Deactivated] on 26/02/2021 - 17:50

    Littering in western Sydney. Not a surprise. Whenever I drive through Liverpool I see loads of trash scattered infront of the unit blocks.

    I blame it on a certain groups of people. I lived there sometime back and remember how the rubbish got worse as more of those people migrated in.

    They just don't give a shit. You'll even see them dumping rubbish in their building hallways.

    Saw some of these people recently chucking out bottles and other plastic rubbish onto the freeway from their moving ute with (of course) a jetski being towed behind, all whilst weaving in and out of traffic of course.

  • darkmoss on 26/02/2021 - 19:45
    -6

    'Gotten'? lol.
    You're probably the bad neighbour.
    Get over it, or move.

  • darkmoss on 26/02/2021 - 19:47
    -3

    "ethnicity of the patrons (98% of their customers)" , wow you're messed up.

    • [Deactivated] on 26/02/2021 - 20:16
      +1

      Why, what's wrong with pointing out the obvious? Differences in culture do exist, and some are more likely to litter than others.

      • ozhunter on 26/02/2021 - 20:35

        Differences in culture do exist

        Racist!!!

        • LFO on 26/02/2021 - 20:48

          Racist!!!

          Isn't race about ethnicity and not cultural values?

        • GrueHunter on 27/02/2021 - 09:40

          Is the difference in culture that white people only do it at Maccas, KFC, Summernats and all music festivals?

  • LFO on 26/02/2021 - 20:47
    -1

    How about to organize the neighborhood to collect that small daily rubbish in different days?. So it will not be too much for anyone in particular.

    A clean environment will induce those eating there to be clean and tidy.

    Do they have some rubbish bins available?

    By the way who eats there? Workers? Drunks? Passers by?
    What kind of food?
    Isn't smell an issue?

    Rubbish problems are easy to solve.
    Just pick some and keep it clean.
    It is a nice area, isn't it? Must have nice neighbors then.

  • newsense on 26/02/2021 - 20:52
    +2

    Is it the Indian food truck on Parra road opposite 7elevn Granville?

  • Pro-crastinator on 27/02/2021 - 00:06
    +3

    Get a mate to lie on the footpath near his van… draw a white chalk outline around him… get some restricted area tape from Bunnings and rope it off…
    When the van owner comes in that day ask him if he heard about the beating one of the neighbors gave a guy when he saw them littering earlier…

    • Powlie85 on 27/02/2021 - 01:25
      +1

      Creative 🤭🤥

  • Thatsgold on 27/02/2021 - 00:19
    +1

    Nekminit…BRO DID YOU DOB IN ME CUZ

  • Emerald Owl on 27/02/2021 - 04:21
    +1

    Bikies

  • RSmith on 27/02/2021 - 07:32

    they're casting a bad light on the ethnicity of the patrons (98% of their customers).

    What is the ethnicity?

    • Orico on 27/02/2021 - 10:27
      +1

      I'm guessing it's Indian because the Granville indian food truck is attracting bin chickens.

      • RSmith on 27/02/2021 - 11:21

        Bin chickens enjoying tandoori chicken.

        • Powlie85 on 27/02/2021 - 15:07

          The place is mostly vegetarian and south indian- no butter chicken I'm afraid ;(

    • Autonomic on 02/03/2021 - 16:51

      Why does it matter?

  • meowbert on 27/02/2021 - 15:22
    +1

    Hi, my significant other used to run a food truck. They are accountable for the garbage of their patrons for the most part, labelled or not.

    Don't do any of the passive aggressive junk recommended by people here and just have a chat to council. If you are feeling particularly friendly have a chat to the owner, tell him (firmly) about the issue and that it needs to be fixed. Then if he doesn't, go to council.

  • striker5950 on 27/02/2021 - 15:52

    tell em to put a bin?

    • Powlie85 on 27/02/2021 - 18:37

      They have bins. People take food and drinks to their cars and some don't make their way back to the truck to leave their rubbish - so they leave it by the road.

      • RSmith on 27/02/2021 - 18:50

        There should be more bins where the cars are parked.

  • andyken on 27/02/2021 - 19:21

    I cant believe the council so lazy, if this happen in Vic, council will come at first place and start giving some fines etc as it is money for them.

    • Ughhh on 28/02/2021 - 12:07

      Maybe too many people complained about "revenue raising", so they're stepping back and not "revenue raising" as much

  • Ughhh on 28/02/2021 - 12:08

    Put pictures up of birds and animals caught in rubbish, plastic in their stomachs etc. Guilt the customers into doing the right thing.

  • coffeeinmyveins on 02/03/2021 - 13:47
    -1

    they're casting a bad light on the ethnicity of the patrons (98% of their customers).

    western sydney

    I know exactly what type of food truck this is, and the experience you're going through.

    You will never change the mentality of these mongrels. They give everyone a bad name.

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