Cryptocurrencies - Your Key to Financial Freedom AMA

I've been tracking the crypto space since Bitcoin was invented and bought my first Bitcoin in 2013 and has been using every cent of my savings to buy cryptocurrencies ever since.

I can now comfortably retire. Which other investment allows you to do that in less than 10 years.

Ask me anything about the cryptocurrency space, there's no such thing as a "silly" question. I think this goes without being said, but I'm going to say it anyway. None of what I say here is financial advice, I do not hold an AFS license, you should seek advice from a licensed professional before making any investment decisions. If you are making investment decisions from some random guy on the internet without doing your own research and due diligence, you should stop immediately!

There's all these controversy about property prices "surging" or becoming unaffordable, not for me, if you invest in the right asset, property is actually getting cheaper and cheaper. Property prices in Bitcoin terms has been decreasing and will continue to as Bitcoin increases in price at a faster pace. So to me, property is progressively getting cheaper and cheaper.

Update:

For those who would like to find out more about cryptocurrencies and why I think Bitcoin is here to stay and will be more valuable in the future, head over to hope.com and watch some of the videos. This site was set up by the CEO of MicroStrategy, Michael Saylor who's company bought an aggregate of approximately 90,531 bitcoins, which were acquired at an aggregate purchase price of approximately $USD2.171 billion and an average purchase price of approximately $USD23,985 per bitcoin, inclusive of fees and expenses as of 24th Feb 2021.

To those who think that I "got lucky" and was "fortunate", that's very far from the truth. I saw this coming, I knew that with rampant money printing by central banks, fiat currency is going to zero and it has been doing so for centuries. All fiat currencies have gone to the zero, in history, there has not been any fiat currency that didn't go to zero. So Bitcoin's rise is inevitable to me, hence I bought it. I didn't go as far as that family who sold everything to buy Bitcoin, but I did use nearly all of my savings to buy cryptos.

Common criticisms of Bitcoin

  • Its just like Tulip mania
    Bitcoin is nothing like Tulips, Bitcoin is a decentalised and censorship resistant network which enables values to be transferred across the internet at very low cost. The value of Bitcoin is the strength of its network and the fact that it has never been breach or hacked, which means unless someone steals your private key, your coins are safe.
    Tulips has none of these qualities. The only thing which Bitcoin and Tulips have in common is the fact they both went up in value very quickly. Even then there are differences, Tulips went up and crashed all within 3 years. Bitcoin has gone through at least 3 cycles where it has smashed its previous all time highs and never dipped below the starting point of the cycle.
    Bitcoin has recorded a higher year on year low every single year since its existence except for 2015.

  • The Bitcoin network uses too much energy
    This is just market supply and demand. People mine Bitcoin because it is profitable to do so. The Bitcoin network do not require so many miners, in fact it started with just one miner. The network can continue with just one miner, it adjusts as more miners enter and leave, this is built into the network. The high energy used by Bitcoin is a sign that it is valuable and people are willing to make the effort in participating in the effort in securing the network and be rewarded for it.
    Due to the profit motive, the energy sources used by Bitcoin miner are increasingly from green energy sources reducing its impact on the environment.

  • It is used for criminal activity
    Fiat currencies are used on a much much larger scale by criminals. Banks launder money for criminal, there's been so many scandals, and those are just the ones which make it to the media, I'm sure a lot goes undetected.
    Bitcoin is actually very bad for criminal activity, this is why they quickly moved onto privacy coins like Monero and Zcash. The Bitcoin blockchain is public and all transactions remain there forever. If a drug deal is done with cash, unless there's a recording device there at the time of the transaction, that drug transaction is untraceable. If you do a drug transaction with Bitcoin, that transaction will always be on the blockchain, all it takes is for law enforcement to tie one address to a real person, and the entire web unravels, so its not very smart using Bitcoin for criminal activity.

My Crypto mistakes and other pitfalls

I want to go over some of the ways I lost money in crypto over the years so maybe you can learn from my mistake

  • Scam websites
    In 2014, there was a website called Bitcoin savings bank, which promises 9%pa interest if I transferred my Bitcoin there. Very similar to what Crypto.com, Blockfi etc offer today, except they are scammers. Unfortunately, I didn't do my research and I believed them. I transferred 2BTC to their "savings account". Never saw it again.
    Nowadays, these sites are very obvious, they promise hourly returns, like 10% every 2 hours. This is impossible to consistently do, they are all scams, don't fall for them.

  • Double your coins scam
    This is quite famous, there are many variants, but essential it just entails you sending your coins and double or some very good return percentage will return. Its a scam, you will get nothing. Fortunately, I have never fallen for these.

  • Pump and dump groups
    These are almost always scams, there are more losers than winners. Yes you may win one time, take it and walk away, but most likely you will lose. I lost more than 1BTC in this. I'm still part of the groups to monitor, but I never participate anymore. Neither should you. They also have these VIP or "inner circle" groups, where they promise you early notification of the coin to pump for a fee. Don't fall for this. They might also have an inner inner circle group or VIP+, where they promise to take your Bitcoin and buy the coins for you, to maximize your returns. These are definitely scams, they will take your Bitcoin and then block you on telegram.

  • Fake wallet apps
    These apps emulate popular wallet apps and asks you for your seed phrases and private keys so they can steal your crypto. Treat your seed phrases and private keys as private. NO ONE should know, not even staff members of the hardware wallet company. Its like your online banking password, no bank employee should ask for that. If any app do, delete it IMMEDIATELY.

  • Leveraged trading
    I lost around 1 BTC (worth around $5-6k USD at the time). I tried to pick the bottom during the 2018 bear market, the Bitcoin price was quite stable and stagnant around the $5500-$6000k mark, so around Nov 2018, I thought that was the bottom and went in with a leverage long. The market went off a cliff dropping down to $3500. I got liquidated, lost the 1 BTC I deposited. I never touched leverage trading again. Its very hard to pick tops and bottoms, so now I just dollar cost average and periodically buy and hold. You don't need to worry about being liquidated if you do this, it will help you sleep better at night haha.


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Comments

    • Decoupling from traditional finance market’s is not going to happen, since at this stage crypto’s only function is to act as a volatile (and poorly regulated) investment vehicle. It has little purpose otherwise.

      • Let him have his hopium!

  • +4

    El Salvador has left the chat.

    • +3

      So is the techlead.

      • +5

        Gotta feel for the OP. This post literally signalled the peak (don't they always!) and then watching their value drop consistently for 18 months. USD$30m then to USD$8m today. To add insult to injury, they've bought more along the way. I could never have that much conviction in any asset, let alone the wild west of crypto. OP must have nerves of steel

        • +4

          Seek out the "Thanks all the future profits, I'm buying your Luna dips" comments OP made in this thread along the way too. Who woulda thought this thread would contain a speedrun of itself within it?

          Having said that, OP was very free with his time, spoke respectfully to everyone and seemed well-reasoned with his arguments (which were more "well, these match my risk profile and they appeal to me" than some other offenders who were more "i'm a manchild spouting memes and unquestioningly repeating YouTube finfluencer stuff" NPCs).

          I never agreed with his 'take', but he wasn't an unpleasant, annoying or toxic presence on here. That counts for something, and I respect him for it.

          • +1

            @CrowReally: Yeah, sometimes I think we sh*t on these people unfairly. After all, I buy shares in a largely useless yellow metal, which sits somewhere in a vat in the City of London, and then I have to pay people to stand around and watch it so nobody steals it. A fairly pointless activity all around. The "inherent value" of said yellow metal is anyone's guess really.

        • +4

          It's just an investment - no better or worse than one's home, super etc - OP has done very well but always knew the volatility of their investment so sympathy for them is preposterous (IMHO) - and I'm sure they'd say so themselves.

          Looking over this thread there's a lot of jealousy and schadenfreude.

          But lets be honest while this thread is up as an AMA - it's a giant humble brag as well - and I have zero issue with that - as he took an educated risk and it paid off.

          If he rode the investment and didn't take profits - thats bad luck and greed. But each to his own, I'd imagine it gets intoxicating after a while and on a much smaller scale I can empathise with the psychological difficulties in selling out of positions you feel still good about etc - but thats why having a plan ahead of time that you stick do in the case of a falling market is important.

          I suspect the wolf won't be at his door any time soon - so happy ending to this story regardless. :-)

      • The real techlead YouTuber disappeared recently too.

  • +3

    Just remember…..it doesn't matter if you blow your wad on Crypto. You can still come to Ozbargain and look for Suimin deals.

  • I made $400k profit in Tether by dumping useless shitcoins in last years mania rise, I haven't declared anything and Gov doesn't know because it's all on overseas exchanges. Plan is to spend that money when traveling, is that a good move or I should declare and lose 45% in taxes? GF say's don't declare and spend the Tether overseas with her when on holidays but I feel uneasy. It's easy to cash out overseas due to many crypto cash machines and just have a lavish time overseas or just buy material things with Crypto directly online and bring it back to Australia, like Gold and jewellery from Dubai, expensive electronic items like laptops, PC parts, weird items like high performance car parts, etc. But I don't feel easy doing that without declaring it all and paying the taxes. I would rather pay $200k in taxes and have $200k I can spend on something good in Aus like a house deposit than to waste $400k on holidays, junk electronic gear and gold. GF says to shut up and spend it all overseas.

    • -1

      Spend it overseas, I wish I travelled more when I was younger. Actually why don’t you buy a holiday villa in Bali etc and then rent it out when you’re not there 🤷🏽‍♂️ Do half and half - half on travelling and half on an overseas investment?!

      • +1

        And then claim the profit from the villa to the ATO, or double down on tax fraud?

        • -2

          If he’s considering spending it doesn’t matter what he does from there.

    • +1

      And what do you think would happen if someone dobbed you in to the ATO? Do you think the risk is worth it?

      For me I would definitely sell and pay the tax. Not worth the risk for me.

      • And what do you think would happen if someone dobbed you in to the ATO?

        don't need to.

        I know lots of ato'ers who use ozbargain lol.

    • +2

      Gov doesn't know because it's all on overseas exchanges

      Really? Just because it’s on an overseas exchange doesn’t mean they don’t know.

      I would 100% be paying the tax. Imagine if the ATO found out about it in say 5-10 years, you’d end up paying a huge penalty which you’d be lucky to keep any of the $400k and you might end up with a criminal record for tax evasion. The below might be worth a read.

      https://www.ato.gov.au/general/the-fight-against-tax-crime/t…

      • -1

        It is unclear whether the person has actually created a taxable event.

        We also have no information about the structure in which those coins are held.

        People need to stop jumping to conclusions as there are legitimate ways to minimise tax.

        • +2

          How would they have dumped s-coins to tether without selling and therefore triggering a CGT event.

          Considering 'being on overseas exchanges' is their 'cover' for not declaring it, one would assume there is no complex company structure setup

        • +1

          It is unclear whether the person has actually created a taxable event.

          as soon as you spend you its considered a sale of capital asset, and created a taxable event. Pretty black and white

    • Have you done KYC on those exchanges? Are you only holding on those exchanges or do you have cold wallets?

      There may be methods whereby you can avoid tax legally.

    • I'd not declare but keep the amount aside in case you get audited.

      • Given the amount were talking about you'd be facing big fines.

    • That's a lot of money, I would pay the tax and have that peace of mind.

      I'm not strict where I record every taxable event.

      I know what my AUD out is and how much AUD goes back in. Simple.

      But, if I win big, say, $20k, I'll cash out $15k to the bank, and keep $5k for investments. From that, I will work out $15k minus my initial and put that as capital gains.

      Whatever I put in the bank, I'll work out the CGT.

  • +1

    This post aged like milk.

    Rat milk, that somebody drank then threw up on a hot footpath.

    • +1

      I would like an update.

    • +1

      Let's see in about 18-24 months…

    • +2

      Not really, the cycle is well known on crypto. And it's following its cycle.

      The fact people are losing money and organisations like FTX took everyone for a ride. Well, that had little to do with crypto. SBF used crypto as a vehicle to take cash of people and never bothered to secure their trades with an equal asset. The asset he used to secure their investments was in fact his own crypto. Poof! Gone.

      This was about fractional banking gone wrong on a bank run, little to do with crypto.

      • +2

        Not really, the cycle is well known on crypto. And it's following its cycle.

        Everyone stays silent when it dumps, you know when it pumps because everyone resurfaces and lasers eyes on Twitter profile pictures.

  • Was Ftx that overseas exchange

    • Yes, based in the Bahamas, but there was an Australian entity for FTX, which also went into liquidation when its parent company did.

  • +3

    We are starting to see green shoots in the crypto market. When BTC goes back above $30k USD, people will start coming out of the woodworks to ask how to buy some Bitcoin lol

    • What is your strategy now when the market is like this?

      • +2

        Resurface and start telling people to buy. Laser eyes on Twitter. Only way.

  • +3

    You know crypto winter is over when Rektrading resurfaces like Celcius / Voyager didn't happen and they still have all their money pumping every pay cheque into it, lending it out and getting loans at 1% which they will pay their daily living expenses and the value will keep on going up and their estate will pick up the pieces and they die CGT free.

    I hope I got the whole story into one sentence.

  • I like your insights! How old are you?

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