Ran a Red Light for The First Time (VIC) Want to Know a Few Things!

Completely new to Ozbargain, in fact created an account to post about an offence that I committed on the very good Friday! I know that I must pay the fine for running left arrow red light but in general what are people's experiences here? Did anyone manage to get out as it was their first?

The camera is believed to be a fixed speed camera and not a red light camera but I guess that doesn't matter as I saw a flash went off the moment I turned left on a red arrow. I guess it flashed once.

I know I must pay the fine and I will but just wanted to know if the the fixed speed cameras are capable of registering the red light offenses?

Comments

  • +2

    You'll know if you get a fine in the mail won't you.

    • +3

      I know if I will or won't in 2 weeks, but before that wanted to know a few things as I asked in my post. Hope you can relate to the feeling if you ever ran a red light!!

      • +13

        No I can't, because I pay attention. Hopefully you don't get out of it, as from the sound of it, you deliberately went through it, and were well aware it was red.

        Someone telling you something on here isn't going to change the fact that you either will, or will not, receive a fine in the mail.

        • +4

          Wow… look at all those negs… a fine for 3km/h over the limit in a 100 zone, a bit rough… but FFS people, this is someone running a red light.

          I get it here (on OzRRP) that some of you think that fines are ReVeNuE rAiSiNg, but running a red light? Where is this line in that sand in the road rules that people all agree on isn’t safe if running red lights had you “NaNNy StAtE” neg sheep all worked up??

          Just how far down the road safety rabbit hole do we have to plunge to get to a point where everyone feels a fine is justified if so many of you think fining someone for running a red light is an oppressive government tactic?

          • @pegaxs: It’s the dirty diversion tactic with ad hominem.

          • +3

            @pegaxs: Yep, have to say I was quite surprised that we have that many people that think blatantly running a res is acceptable 🤷

          • +3

            @pegaxs: Part of the lunacy of this forum. I can live with somebody speeding on a motorway (but not in a suburban street).

            Running red lights is a shocker. You only have to look at Dash Cams Australia on YT to see how many accidents there are due to running the red.

  • Member since………….

  • +24

    Clearly you are new, otherwise the post would have read:

    My friend ran a red light for the first time (VIC) and wants to know a few things!

    • +1

      Well the first lesson learnt then! From next time for sure..

  • +1

    If it is a red light camera, you ran a red light. You won’t get out of a red might offence.

    If it is a speed camera, you must have been speeding. You might be able to get out of a low range speed offence if you have a good driving history.

    You’ll just have to wait until you get a letter in the mail to see which of the two lotteries you won.

    • +3

      If it is a speed camera, you must have been speeding. You might be able to get out of a low range speed offence if you have a good driving history.

      Probably not if the camera catches op speeding while also showing them running the red.

    • -2

      Never say never.

      I did two years ago.

      Found guilty. No conviction recorded. 12 months good behaviour bond.

      No fine and no points lost.

      NSW.

  • +1

    ms paint diagram ?

  • +1

    Did anyone manage to get out as it was their first?

    Not on red light fines

    I saw a flash went off the moment I turned left on a red arrow. I guess it flashed once.

    Why had you been turning when the light was 'red'?

    • When you're stupid and not concentrating it's bound to happen. Although it was merely a fraction of a second I ran the light after it turned red and I didn't know until
      I crossed it. I read somewhere it takes 2 flashes for police to prove I jumped the red light and I guess it flashed only once, so wondering if the info I got was legit or BS.

      • +1

        Yellow to red is 3 seconds not a second.

  • My mate showed me a text message from a couple of weeks ago that he got from VicRoads a few hours after he ran a red light at an intersection with a camera. The message said that he ran a red light and the amount of the fine etc (not in those exact words!). I, myself, haven't received a fine for years and I don't know when they started that.

    • You mean I may receive a text even on the public holiday?

      • +2

        I can't imagine they'd have a human sit there and send a text for each offence, so it must be automated.

        So yes, you may receive a text - even on a public holiday.

        • It is the government though, so they likely need 3 staff to fix the automated process every morning.

  • You are in Vic, count yourself lucky, in NSW double demerit points this long weekend.

    • +5

      We get double Flybuys in VIC this weekend…

      • +1

        How many points earned?

    • Same in WA, run a Red light, obtain 6 demerit points.

  • If I was you, I'd just go hand myself in to the local police station. That way you might get some leniency.

  • +3

    OzTrafficAdvice prank was yesterday mate

  • Its usually pretty cut and dry, but make sure to ask for the photos of when the light was red and where your car was. There could be times its been taken wrongly so when the fine comes through just make sure you did indeed run the red light and it shows so on the camera.

    If so, you kind of just have to pay it unfortunately. But it can sometimes be worth calling up the place thats fining you if you're tough on cash, they may be able to put you on a payment plan or similar.

  • Perhaps if you told us the location we can give a more helpful answer.

  • -5

    I've been fined for running a red turn too. It's disturbing common outside of places people know when they'll get fined. People time the yellows wrong all the time, others just blatantly run the red. I'm curious if there is "revenue-raising" going on. If they have enough data people are "only" getting caught they should just change the timings and save people some heartache and its probably safer. I believe they did this in the US (although I'm sure I'll never find it).

    • +2

      People time the yellows wrong all the time

      Yellow doesn't mean speed up to make it. It means slow down to stop, if it is safe to do so. There's a huge difference.

      • Timing also refers to when to press the brakes. If people are timing acceleration wrong you can bet they are probably incorrect in their stopping distance calculations too.

        • +2

          I'm curious if there is "revenue-raising" going on

          It’s a stupidity tax.

      • Leaving THIS here for posterity purposes , whilst yellow doesn't mean speed up to make it this gives a FINE example of what could happen when you dont.

        • It is indeed a fine example of NOT slowing down to stop properly instead of slamming brakes on last second which is what she did as clearly too distracted on the phone. Idiot behind should have also been paying attention and slowing down on the yellow too instead of rushing on to make it.

  • Very lucky you are not in NSW.

  • No chance to get out of red light camera offenses in Vic unfortunately.

    • Good

  • Stop driving OP

  • +3

    You actually mean, it is the first time you have been caught.

    • +1

      This… that’s what people don’t tell you… if you divided the number of times they have broken a road rule and divide the fine by the number of times they have gotten away with it and it usually works out to be a few dollars a pop…

  • +1

    I'm wondering how bloody fast were you going when you turned a corner(!) to set off a speed camera but maybe not a red light camera.

    Hope you get a whopping big fine and change your behaviour in future but I'll acknowledge it's a touchy subject for me right now, a woman running a red light in a 70 zone came within a car width of killing me and my toddlers on Thursday afternoon. I wasn't even the first car off the line, there had been a green on my end for over 20 seconds when she ignored the red lights and cars stopped in the adjacent lanes and raced through the intersection. I braked, she carried on down the road oblivious.

  • No chance. I appealed a red light and they said due to the 'serious' nature of the crime, there would be no warning or leniency given. (Ran red turning right, was at the end of a bunch of cars and there was a taxi also turning right in the second right turn lane so wasn't endangering anyone else… just really slow.)

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