Why Is Everyone So Fat When Grocery Spending Is So Low?

SlavOz on 19/06/2021 - 19:29
Last edited 19/06/2021 - 20:21 by 1 other user

Some recent research I conducted led me to this:

I'm always sceptical of survey data but I've checked others and most of them have similar statistics.

Eg, family with 2 kids spends an average of $336 on food and drink per week. That seems like a massive stretch for a household with 2 adults, especially if either one has a large appetite.

I live on my own and I spend at least $150 a week on just food. I only drink water so I save in that regard. Part of the issue is that I need to follow a low-carb diet so stocking up on rice, cereal, bread and other fillers isn't really an option.

Still, it baffles me how some people are feeding their kids with such restrictive diets yet we are constantly seeing claims that obesity is on the rise, even among children. What's going on?

Food & Grocery

Comments

  • Trying2SaveABuck on 20/06/2021 - 20:36
    +2

    I dont know about anyone else but i like food….thats why im fat

    I'd say COVID hasn't helped made the gym routine difficult…

  • this is us on 20/06/2021 - 23:55
    +2

    Because it's not about quantity, but quality. The fact that people don't spend a lot buying food means they buy cheap stuff, and cheap generally means unhealthy.

    One tiny avocado costs between $2.50 and $4.00 (recently, I've been able to find it for $1 or $1.50 each, but that's unusual). A pack of mixed leaves is $3. A linseed bread loaf is $5 when white bread is $3. Sugary industrialised food is cheaper. A meal at Macca's is cheaper than preparing your healthy meal at home, unless you have a lot of patience to select suppliers and know how to get deals (e.g., odd bunch). Fruits are expensive in Australia.

    People who spend more with groceries likely have a healthier diet than people who don't spend much, particularly if you have to feed many people.

    • 91rs on 21/06/2021 - 09:55

      "People who spend more with groceries likely have a healthier diet than people who don't spend much"
      Based on what? Nothing stopping people loading up on crap, chips, soft drinks, other things that are high in sugar etc.
      Total basket price does not equal healthy or not in any way.
      Yes cost of some items (avo's for example) are something that will put people off but there are plenty of other options and ways to eat healthy on a budget.
      Might also mean that people have to stop shopping at the local colsworth or whatever and find butchers and fruit and veggie places that offer better range and quality and not the often expensive supermarket prices.

      • this is us on 21/06/2021 - 11:53
        +2

        As I explained my point, based on the fact that healthier food is more expensive. And I said "likely", not always. The lean meat is more expensive than the fat one. The "low carb" item is more expensive than the standard. Sweetener is more expensive than sugar.

        I find that "fruit and veggie places" usually have better quality, but they are generally (far) more expensive than local Coles/Woolly. Eating healthy in a budget is possible, but it demands extra time with researching, buying, and preparing food.

        Not everyone can afford $40/kg for salmon from Queen Victoria Market or $2.50 each capsicum or banana at $7/kg. If you are a couple with three kids, how much do you have to spend every day to feed five mouths? Do you need 1kg of banana a day?

        When I tried to order seasonal boxes (fruit and veg) from a local supplier, delivered, I was disappointed with the variety (too many different apples) and price (I had a discount, but without the discount it'd be more expensive than Woolly).

        Anyway, I haven't checked the methods and data (available here) but it's a survey, which depends on people's report, and there are too many variables influencing people's expenses. For instance, it's pointless to compare states when there are huge differences between Sydney and rural NSW, or Melbourne and rural Victoria, and distribution of food nationwide. It's likely that Melbourne is more similar to Sydney than rural VIC in terms of buying behaviour. Rural towns with agricultural industry might suggest cheaper produce (or not, I don't have the data).

  • payless69 on 21/06/2021 - 01:04

    What was the name of the song the late Freddie Mercury felt like being inspired to change orientation?

  • kaleidoscope on 21/06/2021 - 08:40
    +1

    what’s your real question here op? why obesity rates go high or why families spend far too much on groceries or if there is a connection between the two 🧐

    ———
    We spent about $150 per week for family of 2.5.
    kids meals are mostly home cooked except for snacks and dairy. This is average when you consider non edible and non every week stuff

  • FallaM on 21/06/2021 - 08:47

    Its never people eating that many calories it's people drinking the calories, which makes it wayyy easier to enter a huge caloric surplus

    • inasero on 01/07/2021 - 11:58

      It's both…

  • 91rs on 21/06/2021 - 09:50

    Lack of exercise, mostly as it can be avoided most days and then the kids see that and are also impacted by it thinking the minimal amount of activity their parents do is normal.
    Kids (where i've lived) don't play outside, ride bikes and run around like I used to when I was a kid, they dont walk to school as the parents drive them right up to the drop off point and pick them up as they don't have time or couldn't be bothered walking them.
    Combine that with unhealthy food that's quick and cheap and you get more overweight people.
    Seen a few more fatties since all the lockdowns in the last 18 months in Melbourne, scaring people by wanting to fine them for being outside more than 60 mins didn't help.
    I don't think healthy eating, exercise and the benefits of are really taught at school at any meaningful level (just like things about real world finances, tax, jobs, mortgages) so kids become adults that have no idea what they should or shouldn't be doing? That passes on to their kids eventually, you can see it when you go through some suburbs more than others.

    • Stopback on 21/06/2021 - 10:44

      a lot of the foods we think healither now, have a ton of fat. Brunch food may have veges but you dont want to know how much butter they use.

      food in the past was a lot simpler.

  • Stopback on 21/06/2021 - 10:29

    Its serving sizes that have increased.

    As a kid growing up, lunches were not health. Chips, white bread + jam, but we were not fat.

    • DJR9000 on 21/06/2021 - 20:11

      Dinner plate sizes have gotten bigger too.

  • mranderson978 on 21/06/2021 - 10:36
    +4

    Carbs are ridiculously cheap, and very tasty. They also trigger insulin production, and insulin is a fat storage hormone.

    High carb diets = High fat population.

  • pformag on 21/06/2021 - 10:59

    Better be fast fat, so you can survive the apocalypse when it happens. All these skinnies will be the 1st to go.

    • Cluster on 21/06/2021 - 11:46

      Ever seen an obese soldier? Even the COVID pandemic showed that being obese was a health risk, as too much weight put a person with coronavirus at greater risk of complications and dying.

  • lazarski on 21/06/2021 - 11:26

    you've answered your own question.

    they're all going to maccas and getting uber eats and not exercising.

    home cooking is generally the healthiest option

  • CheeseBeans on 21/06/2021 - 12:13

    Several reasons

    -Grocery spend may be low, but compensated by high fast food spend
    -As you note, calories and dollars don't always track linearly. 1 kg fillet steak is 10-11000 kj, and costs probably $45+. 1 kg of dry rice is barely more than a dollar, and is nearly 15000 kj.
    -Food choices vary a lot. Fats and oils are very calorie dense, and quite cheap, while lean meats and fresh fruit and vegetables are not particularly cheap.

    Edit: and also, many people are bad at tracking finances. Recording one big receipt from a weekly shop- easy. A coffee, a muffin, uber eats you don't see on your credit card until next month, a biscuit from the tin at work, all easy to forget.

    Since I started managing my diet better and exercising more my food spend hasn't changed a lot, but maybe slightly decreased- as I'm making my meals more regularly, and eating out less.

    If I was broke I could cut my food budget a lot. More rice, more oil, fattier/cheaper meat cuts, etc.

  • dufflover on 21/06/2021 - 12:50

    Wow $100pp sounds quite high for me too. Don't know exactly but I only crack $100 in a weekly shop if it's those weeks I buy up a bunch of steaks or other protein. Then again, I usually buy the consistently cheap staples that regularly go on special like carrots, capsicums, potatoes, corn, and stuff like broccoli and cauliflower when cheaper. The few times I buy things like broccolini or asparagus it doesn't seem worth it for the tiny bundle you get. Mushrooms are probably the most expensive veg I buy on a regular basis $10/kg.

    I do buy my fair share of "unhealthy" stuff like the stuff you oven bake or air fry out of laziness; like chicken tenders, Herbert pies, chips/gems.

    Ultimately though I'm more budget concious than health concious, like I dont do counting calories or carbs. I check my fitness through my little exercise routine and if I start falling behind the mark I know I'm getting fat … or getting old :P

  • Kamsi on 21/06/2021 - 13:14

    You can thanks Costco for that. Annual fees force people to buy more to save more :)

  • MrKnowItAll on 21/06/2021 - 13:20
    +7

    Family of 9 here (2 adults, 7 ranging from 1 mo. to 12 years) and our fortnightly food budget sits at around $500-$600. Most of that is home cooked meals, but we do have fast food occasionally as well, particularly on those days where there has been a lot to do and neither myself or my wife feel like cooking.

    Meals include things like:

    • Cottage Pie
    • Spaghtetti
    • Taco's / Nachos
    • Chilli Con Carne (mild so the kids can eat)
    • Home made pizza
    • Pulled Pork / Beef
    • Steaks
    • Goulash

    And we shop at places like Coles, Woolworths, Spud Shed, The local IGA and our fave butcher for meat.

    Of course with 7 children there are a few days where we most will eat one thing and one or more kids will want something else, but overall we try our best to make foods that all enjoy to cut down on fragmented meals.

    • trapper on 21/06/2021 - 14:18
      +7

      +1 just for raising 7 kids. Amazing mate.

      • MrKnowItAll on 21/06/2021 - 20:02
        +2

        haha thanks man! never a dull moment in our house!

        • spackbace on 21/06/2021 - 22:43
          +3

          Well that's how you created 7 kids 😂

          • SF3 on 21/06/2021 - 23:03
            +1

            @spackbace: Well @marc kay is doing well, 9 people for $600 per fortnight, $34 per person, where as OP is $150 as a single individual per week (and thinks that's punching above weight).

    • Jackson on 29/06/2021 - 15:25
      +1

      this sounds a lot like many of my meals

  • trapper on 21/06/2021 - 14:12
    +2

    It doesn't take a massive amount of unhealthy food to get nice and fat.

    For most people it comes down to a small but consistent amount of excess calories in. It does not take a lot.

    ie. Average man needs ~2500 calories per day. If you eat just 5% more (+125 so 2625 total) then you are gaining 125 / 9 = ~14g per day. Over a year that is more than 5kg.

    Keep that up for a couple of years and one day you look in the mirror and think wtf… how did I get so fat.

    "I don't eat any more than anyone else… must be my metabolism/genetics/other excuse"

  • MrSammyMcG on 21/06/2021 - 14:29
    +1

    It's not the amount that people are spending but that the cheaper processed food is innately less healthy and causes health issues. It's the diet and lifestyle of lazy westerners too, always wanting to live hedonistically that causes people to eat for pleasure not form.

  • lonewolf on 21/06/2021 - 16:28

    Growing up I ate chips every day for recess and sandwiches for lunch and burnt it off easily with all the sports i played recess and lunch (tough footie or soccer). i would say it would also depend on what the kids do for activity.

  • hopper on 21/06/2021 - 16:38

    I blame hungry jacks voucher :'(

  • MessyG on 21/06/2021 - 16:44
    +7

    Because food is not the problem. The problem is chronic stress, chronic overwork, undealt with trauma, depression, and anxiety, and poor sleep due to all of the above. Prolonged stress means increased levels of cortisol and all the dieting in the world wont change that. Stressed bodies hang onto fat for survival. If people had enough money, less time at work, a kinder mass media, and better psychological support this wouldn't be half the problem that it is. But your life situation and mental state drive your behaviour whether you want it to or not, and that includes food behaviour.

    Of course it's much easier to screech calories in/calories out at people than to actual invest in the very real issues affecting our community en masse but here we are. Perhaps instead of asking 'why are people fat', we could all ask 'how could we make someones life a bit easier today?' or 'how I can help people improve their health?' (read: not their weight, weight loss is a side effect of improved health).

    (And before people get stuck into me, this is largely from the Royal Australiasian College of Physicians position statement on obesity that says that diets don't work, but focusing on health in a multitude of different ways including sleep, mental health, exercise, etc does).

    • DaneD on 24/06/2021 - 09:23
      +1

      It isn't up to the community to improve individuals health. I can't force someone to make good food choices, sleep instead of watching TV, move around or go outside. It is up to the individual.

      At the most basic level it really is as simple as calories in and calories out. No amount of stress will stop you from losing weight (to a reasonable body fat %) if you consume than you expend. Stating the opposite simply is not factual your body can not magic up calories out of thin air. Obviously once you start cutting down to a very low body fat % stress, lack of sleep, too much activity etc. can play a big part. However, for the majority of people getting to a reasonable % is achievable.

      That being said, I also agree with you that diets don't work because diets don't solve the underlying problem of the issue. They are a temporary fix for a short period of time. What does work is counting your calories, making conscious food choices, eating in a style that actually works for you long term and being accountable.

  • c64 on 21/06/2021 - 18:06
    +1

    Why Is Everyone So Fat When Grocery Spending Is So Low?

    you just need to look at 1/2 price specials from a typical coles/woolworths. soft drinks, chips, ice cream, lollies, pizza

  • daddydirtsurfer on 21/06/2021 - 18:15
    -1

    I have no idea why OP care so much about obesity problem!

    • ss207k on 21/06/2021 - 19:26
      +7

      I don't think he cares about obesity problem..Note he's already decided others are fat (not obese or appearing overweight but "fat"). Can't question his diet though, he's got stats, surveys and research to show he's awesome, he's all clear and good to go..

      The whole post is about fishing for complement and a validation about how good he is compared to "fat" people.

      • MessyG on 21/06/2021 - 21:27

        10,000%

  • chriise on 21/06/2021 - 19:11
    +1

    Fruit and veg are very expensive in this country. Really surprised me when I moved over from the UK.

  • Hangryuman on 21/06/2021 - 19:17

    OP: 'it baffles me how some people are feeding their kids with such restrictive diets yet we are constantly seeing claims that obesity is on the rise, even among children. What's going on?'

    wow - statistical sampling - different groups ?

    I used to think that obesity was associated with greed and selfishness in rich people

    until I read that it's more associated with poor people living in food deserts eating only junk food, especially high fructose corn syrup as popularised in the US since some 1970s government decision to grow more corn

    apparently some worst obesity and associated childhood diabetes is in the US Marshall Islands where the natives have been left with a food desert and shops only offered cans of turkey fat - result 10yo kids were having limbs amputated due to blocked circulation/childhood diabetes horrors.

    similarly Mexico I believe became fat city when high fructose corn syrup sodas were pushed onto them by some US 'Free Trade' agreement

    while I'm casting nasturtiums I might as well toss in another - in my observation morbid obesity can seem to be associated with either low IQ (duh - I didn't know this junk food I like to eat was gonna make me fat …), trauma (like childhood abuse), addiction (can't talk - eating), or some hormonal health disaster triggering over-eating, perhaps due to chronic pain or other major health issues.

  • cute as duck on 21/06/2021 - 19:45

    Buying unhealthy food is cheaper than buying healthy food

  • Assburg on 21/06/2021 - 22:11

    OP is reasonable dude, his forum posts are often genuine questions a person who doesn't really engage with society out of boredom would ask.

    Parents are too busy watching Netflix/looking at FB to make good food for their kids.

    As an example, you see few influencer types who post healthy imagery - they deal with their problems, feed their kids, etc., then post something on IG

    Most other people are busy scrolling the feed, with the baby in a pram eating McD's happy meal and this habit just goes on and on as the kid gets older. This isn't one in a few, you just need to walk through a mall weekdays between 10am and 1pm to see it in such absurd frequency (previously worked in a mall, have distinct memories of seeing 10-15 women in the McDonald's queue, all with prams, anecdote sure… But two years of anecdotes is called "data").

    Teaching people to be good people is an all consuming task in that even when you're not doing it, you need to be a good role model. Most people just think it happens like every other bit of instant gratification they get.

    Everyone on ozbargain should be feeding their kids ZAmino WPI for the next couple weeks, at least as a dinner substitution, though.

    • SlavOz on 21/06/2021 - 22:34
      +2

      This is probably the only time in my life I'll ever say this, but I think government action is the solution to the problem. It's absurd the amount of regulation they impose on some industries yet let fast food/junk brands get away with every know unethical practice in the book.

      Designing food to be more addictive, blatantly appealing to children, misleading advertsimg, using psychological manipulation to associate their products with "feeling good", operating at a loss to draw customers in.

      A friendly reminder that their products kill more people every year than COVID. And before they say "but it's not contagious", tell me why all the fat parents have fat kids…

      • Raj09 on 22/06/2021 - 01:10

        Totally agree

      • DJR9000 on 23/06/2021 - 06:16
        +1

        'fast /unhealthy food' taxes have been proposed many times, but never seem to go into effect… Might be something to do with our corrupt political donations system.

        https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/feb/15/austr…

        • SlavOz on 24/06/2021 - 05:41

          I always thought it was because of the outrage (and swing votes) that would occur if the government did it.

          All the mums would suddenly go ballistic at the increased cost of living.

  • Raj09 on 22/06/2021 - 01:10
    +1

    It's a good question. It's because you have sugar and fat in most processed foods. And these are the snacks and fast foods items which people eat in between their meals. They might have less at dinner but if you eat more in between you end up with a lot more calories.

  • ippybear on 22/06/2021 - 07:23
    +1

    If you spend money on food made of full of sugars / carbs / starches and use so called vegetable oils then you will get fat, and kids are no exception.
    Forget the so called food pyramid and the like, unless you believe the US Dept of Agriculture, who wrote it, and clearly knows all about your health.
    Since these so called "balanced" diets have been around now for 50 years, it's amazing how by chance everybody has got fat. Ask an oldie, how many fat people they knew years ago when they were younger, and this diet didn't exist.
    They didn't eat all the processed "cheap to make" foods, and they didn't eat low fat either. They ate full fat foods, some veggies and a little fruit.
    You can ignore all the above, but as you put years on, and start developing various illnesses you might want to remember that you were warned!

  • [Deactivated] on 22/06/2021 - 08:03
    -1

    Cause people aren't eating enough fruit these days.

  • [Deactivated] on 22/06/2021 - 08:10
    +1

    The body actually doesn't need energy from food anyway it just needs energy from the mind. I used to read about yogi's living several hundred years just sitting in a meditative posture concentratin their mental energy on their body. I didn't believe it back then but now i do :)

    • smartazz104 on 22/06/2021 - 08:56

      Most people have narrow minds and would starve to death.

  • eman resu on 22/06/2021 - 09:50

    Its crazy that people spend so much on food.

    I have 2 chest freezers and buy meat once a year (2 cows, 5-7 sheep and 2 dozen chicken). All cut to my desired portions. We eat head to tail, so nothing goes to waste. We eat meat at least 3 times a week.

    Seafood is whatever we catch on the weekends, and since we have a shellfish allergy we really get into prawns and high cost seafoods.

    We make our own breads, pizzas and pastas. This saves a great deal of money and you control what is in your foods.

    Fruit and veg are bought at the markets and we do our own jarring for pickles, olives, jams and and sauces.

    We used to roast our own coffee before we found ozbargain so the cost is cheaper buying the deals now.

    • Powershopz on 22/06/2021 - 10:07

      You would be an extreme outlier (<1% poppulation).

    • baldur on 22/06/2021 - 13:39

      How much do you actually save? Did you ever calculate? Kudos to you for managing this.

  • PAOK11 on 22/06/2021 - 10:06
    +1

    Absolute madness some of the stuff im reading. Im single and a small shop is over $100 without trying. I have spent closer to $200 on occasion but lately I am being more conscious

  • keejoonc on 22/06/2021 - 10:50
    +3

    Just look at the shopping trolley of obsese people at the supermarket. It's not rocket science fo figure out why they are so fat.

    • Cluster on 23/06/2021 - 12:43
      +1

      Have a look at the breakfast cereals they buy. Most are loaded with sugar, even though the products portrayed as 'healthy'.

      • SlavOz on 24/06/2021 - 05:46

        Pretty sure all cereals are full of sugar (Weetbix doesn't have as much I think).

        Tbh the problem is the same as the US - people have been led to believe that desserts like pancakes, waffles, and cereal are ideal breakfast foods. Probably the most blatantly misleading and corrupt lie ever told on TV. Most experts would suggest that you need maximum protein and minimal sugar for breakfast.

  • USER DC on 22/06/2021 - 11:24
    +1

    The thing is one wont be fat if they don't consume improper food, and do a regular fasting like intermittent fast regularly and once a month A LONG TERM FAST (30 HOURS OR MORE)

    I had personally lost from 82 KG to as low as 65kg in a matter of 2 months doing

    Lot of long term fasts,
    keto principal (a bit iffy on side, aka sometimes not so keto)
    And just not doing snacking

    Never went to gym or became unhealthy with this approach. Also from 34" waist down to 28" waist pants

  • Hugh G Rection on 22/06/2021 - 14:11

    buying cheaper and worst quality food.
    also buying fast food.

  • drfuzzy on 22/06/2021 - 18:00
    +3

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    • DJR9000 on 23/06/2021 - 06:11
      -1

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        -2

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  • ganymede on 22/06/2021 - 21:10

    $150/week single? Wow! Family of 3 here, $100/week.

    • SlavOz on 24/06/2021 - 05:48

      That would be mostly processed foods right?

      • ganymede on 27/06/2021 - 00:08

        Nope.

        • inasero on 01/07/2021 - 12:12

          Lots of carbs? E.g. rice/potatoes/bread/pasta?

          • ganymede on 03/07/2021 - 00:21

            @inasero: Nope. Good mix of carbs, proteins, fruits and vege.

            • inasero on 03/07/2021 - 10:26

              @ganymede: I'd be curious to know how you manage to stick to that budget - that deserves an AMA in its own right, as I'm sure alot of other people would also benefit from your tips

  • CheapAddict on 22/06/2021 - 22:12
    +1

    I’m not sure your question is even valid. How does grocery spending correlate to how obese or fat a family may be. There are so many factors at play that can cause obesity or one to be over weight. Just because you’re spending $150 a week to maintain your body it doesn’t mean that’s what’s required for everyone else. Family of 4 here and we only spend $200 a week and we are far from fat or being unfit.

    People need to understand everyone’s body is different. One of the reasons why there’s many overweight is we don’t eat appropriately for our body. The diet you eat may have a different effect on someone else who may live a more sedentary lifestyle or active lifestyle. Someone who’s built his body may be able to get away with eating “junk” than the average person.

    Theres also:
    Health issues
    Body types
    Addictive eating
    Alcohol
    Yo-yo Dieting
    Injuries
    Mental issues

    All these and many more play a factor to why one might become overweight. So again I say, I don’t see your question as a valid one.

  • PlayerSnow on 23/06/2021 - 07:44

    I live on my own and I spend at least $150 a week on just food.

    Yikes. I'm fat and live off $50/week food

  • Speckled Jim on 23/06/2021 - 09:17

    I was reminded of this topic by my last Flashback-Friday movie, Taking Care of Business.

    Jimmy - Your frosted flakes? It's got half the sugar that Tony the Tiger's does
    …
    Diane - Is there anything about High Quality Foods that you like?

    Jimmy - Oh, your potato chips are pretty good. But then again, I like really greasy food.
    Well, you know it's not so bad that you sell cheap stuff. I mean, not everybody can afford three bucks for a box of Fruit Loops.
    But you shouldn't call it High Quality Foods cos it just isn't.

  • eek on 23/06/2021 - 14:12
    +1

    No idea, never been fat, don't have much sympathy for people who complain about being fat. Struggled to gain weight all my life. Spend around $200 per week to feed 2 adults and 2 kids under 3 years of age. Think I need to spend less and eat more KFC/McDonalds.

  • ChadHominem on 23/06/2021 - 19:11

    Cheap food makes you the fattest. Look at the USA

  • brad1-8tsi on 23/06/2021 - 19:56
    +2

    My GF is an analyst in the industry. Take away, eating out, fast food and sugary drinks.

    • inasero on 01/07/2021 - 12:17

      You can eat-in all the time and still get fat, while saving money…

      E.g. toast, fruit juice and cereals for breakfast
      Ham and cheese toastie for lunch
      Pizza or pasta for dinner
      Snacks in between - chips, biscuits, confectioneries and soft drinks/cordials/"sports" drinks

      Do you see a common theme/trend here?

      Grocery spending (or lack thereof) doesn't correlate to remaining at a healthy weight

  • netsurfer on 24/06/2021 - 10:09

    I am sure eating organic and healthy is much cheaper… oh wait….

  • pogichinoy on 24/06/2021 - 11:05

    Convenience of junk food, large portion sizes, and not enough exercise.

    People can each cheap from supermarkets but it is tougher because it is less convenient.

    The 4 leaf salad in Coles is only $2. Good for 2 meals at least.

  • MND on 24/06/2021 - 11:28

    UBer eats, menu log, deliveroo! All help us sit on our ass and get fat!

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