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Power: 800W, size: 620102015mm, Heated Area: 8-10 square meters.
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I guess you can project on it but the picture will always be too…warm
do people ever mount these on the ceiling?
Yep. We got Herschel ones (same tech - "far infrared), and they're all on the ceiling in our apartment. Not sure if I'd recommend Herschel as we have three dud units out of the 10 we have between two homes - they did replace them but I had to pressure them not to charge us the sparky fee to install the new one. The wifi control panel and app also was a royal PITA to set up. So maybe this company is a better get.
The actual heaters works a treat - no aircon moving air to dry out your eyes and they're silent. They can take a while to get going, and if you're not right underneath them, it can take a while before the ambient heat warms you up, so ideally you'll put them on a timer so you don't have to do much other than maybe tweak the temperature at which they kick in. Most noticeable benefit is in on large objects eg the bedroom where it makes your quilt nice and warm, or the sofa in the living room. Works fine on hardwood floors and carpets alike too.
Very glad I got this type of heating as we don't have much space and being able to stick them on the ceiling is much less obtrusive than putting them on walls, or using any other type of heater.
Isn't ceiling mounting super inefficient ? Being that hot air rises, so the air they heat is the air on the ceiling , or that's not how they work ? I have no idea living in QLD but just curious.
mount your bed on the ceiling too, problem solved :)
Yes and no. You obviously are right but they are an infrared heater so standing in front of it warms you up. That's why they are best if mounted on a wall or ceiling where exposure to most of the room is possible.
These don't actually heat the air. They heat the surfaces that the infrared rays come into contact with.
@kapone: Yep, as above. They don't heat the air, which other types of heating do. They heat the solid objects - furniture, floor - and that's the heat you get.
Apart from "moving air to dry out your eyes" (!) the aircon unit can be run for about a quarter of the price.
For every 0.8KW put in, you'll get about 3.2KW of heat into your room.
This unit takes the same 0.8KW, and puts only 0.8KW of heat into your room.
In a cooler state like Victoria this difference is going to cost you hundreds of dollars per year on your electric bill - far far more than the cost of the units !
thanks for the insight
It's not that simple though, as a heat pump will heat all the air in a room, and this heats much more directly.
It's like saying you should use an air con instead of a heated throw as it's 'more efficient'. Sometimes resistance heating isn't a bad option.
FYI - I don't know enough about these to say for certain about the difference in running costs but just pointing out that it's not just about the number of kW of heat put into a room, it's also about where you put them
It's not that simple though, as a heat pump will heat all the air in a room, and this heats much more directly.
These two scenarios only differ over a short period of time.
If you're using the heating over an evening for example, then once the aircon has heated all the air in the room, that air has in turn heated everything else in the room. Everything is warm eventually.
This unit heating a small part of the room, also eventually heats all the air in the room, and hence everything else in the room eventually. It just costs a lot more money (and takes a lot longer) to get there …
For short periods of use in a targeted small space, like a bathroom, I agree that resistive heating like these have a place.
But the guy above using them to heat his whole apartment ? Nope 😁
@Nom: Yep, agreed - just wanted to point out that heat pumps aren't necessarily the best option in all scenarios
@Nom: They do take longer to heat up an entire room - but we position them near our bed and sofa/coffee table, and it takes minutes to feel warmth. It takes a bit longer to heat up other parts of the room, but not that's ever bothered us.
We also use them because reverse cycle units and gas aren't possible to install in our apartment, and I'm sure this is the case for some other apartment dwellers. The central aircon we have is old and inefficient and would be expensive and complex to replace. The fact you can stick these in any room is particularly useful in our bathrooms where heating options are few, esp since our apartment ceiling space is fire rated and we can't even install IXL Tastic lights. If I could do it again, I'd get the floors heated as well though.
As for the snark about moving air, I'd point out that wind, fan heaters and strong aircons all move air, and it feels quite different. They change the humidity of the room ie dry it out. Our column heaters did the same - and certainly they took far longer to warm us up.
Far infrareds are also not noisy esp like split cycle units that randomly crank up when the thermostats demand.
Yeah, some friends have them on the ceiling, but these ones do specifically comment "not support ceiling mounting" in the description. So at your own risk on these ones.
Our 450W, 600W and 720W support ceiling mounting, 22 thickness type.
This 800W Infrared heater (slimline, 15mm thicknesss) recommend wall mounting or free standing(Stand feet sold separately).
Install heater above the sofa, working desk.etc, bring you healthy warm
worth getting?
No. It's just a radiator. Stupid price for 19th century tech.
and 800W is pretty weak for the price tag
No. I had a herschel one like the commenter above. It was a 700watt model and brand new was $699. I got it off eBay. Read this for more info. https://renew.org.au/renew-magazine/heating/a-tale-of-three-…
Point of reverse cycle is 1W in 4W of output. This is 1:1 at best.
anyone tried these things in a bathroom?
It'll be similar to the bright heating bulbs some bathrooms have. I prefer the $20 coil/ceramic heaters. At least the wind dries me after a shower.
We have the Herschel ones in our bathroom. They work nicely, though we have them on a timer and definitely they work better if you have them near the toilet/shower where you tend to be in one spot for a while. We've had the IXL tastic heating bulbs and they work much faster and are warmer, but we can't put them in our fire rated ceiling space in the bathroom.
Will this help me hide from Predator?
these look dangerous as hell especially how they blend into the wall like that
Why? Are you familiar with how IR heater panels work? They don't get physically hot to the point they could burn on contact with skin, nor do they heat the air around it, they put out 800w of IR light which heats objects on contact.
didnt know that. are they any good? heard to find reviews on them.
They are bad compared to using a reverse cycle air conditioner to heat inside your home. Please refer to Nom's comment above explaining why they are up to or more than 5x worse. Basically a reverse cycle air conditioner can create 3.5kw of heat by using 800w of electricity to pump heat from outside the home (heat pump). This panel heater creates 800w IR energy (heat) from 800w electricity and will take a long time to heat the air inside the home (if that's your goal).
They excel at outdoor heating though as the energy goes into heating your skin, clothes and furniture rather than the air.
@studentl0an: I think the distinction about heating the air vs heating you is material. When we got them, I was concerned that I'd be toasty on the sofa but would feel cold as soon as I moved to a part of the room that wasn't close to the panel (ceiling mounted). But I just don't notice such a drop off - perhaps because I'm not spending that much time in the corners of my room, or because the ambient warmth from the objects is enough to take off the edge. And as mentioned above, warming air rather than objects can create an unpleasant drying feel. Some won't be bothered - but I certainly notice.
It's essentially a spotlight, except its in the ir range so you're not blinded by the light
@krisspy: That's actually an interesting safety concern as IR light can definitely cause harm to our eyes.
IR lasers for instance are notoriously dangerous when it comes to vision loss as people can't see the wavelength but it can still fry their retinas. There's speculation to the Chinese using it militarily/espionage along with microwave weapons.
A while back I remember seeing something about the cheap 5w green laser diodes spilling out heaps of IR light when they are in cold temperatures - so people will look at the light to make sure it's working and then go blind. I'll try and find that and edit this post with it.
Here's it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tOcUyakk0Q
@juki: That's strange becuase it's been widely publicized for years that China has been attacking Western spooks/soldiers/diplomats with microwave weapons to the point there's a name for the brain disease sufferers get from the attacks. The name for the syndrome that affected people have is called 'Havana syndrome' after the suspected attacks on U.S. and Canadian personnel in Havana, Cuba (allegedly by Chinese agents).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/business/economy/havana-s…
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jun/02/microwave-we…
@studentl0an: oh yeah i also remember that, but i dont remember it being chinese related, the wiki link you provided also mentions russian although a similar event happened in china
re: what i was thinking i was mistaken, i was thinking of laser and pirates
@studentl0an: You can't really compare lasers to normal lights. A 5 mW laser can already cause permanent damage whereas a 60w bulb would only give you sun spots for the same exposure times.
Your body usually absorbs IR quite effectively so I'm assuming the IR radiated is not in the overly dangerous scale.
Yes IR is dangerous in the way that your eyes can't detect it and blink, but this should have enough spread that your face would feel it and you'd hopefully move.
Would be interesting to see these heaters through video to see how bright they are.
@krisspy: 800w of IR LEDs.
If you've ever had the misfortune of looking at an 100w LED and experiencing temporary eye issues, times that by 8.
IR can damage eyes as my link pointed out, so when you see dubious safety information saying that IR light is perfectly safe for our eyes - take that with a grain of salt.
In all the links about IR heater safety from Google they all discuss the risk to the eyes.
@studentl0an: Again, concentrated source vs a 0.6sqm panel. This is made to heat a 10sqm area so alot of dispersion.
You're links all talk about microwaves, different frequency, different properties. Were talking about near infrared, not far infrared or microwaves. This infrared penetrates less.
800w is a lot of power, but this wouldn't be on the market if it's a death trap as you're making it out to be. There are smarter people than you and I with no vested interest in this company that's done studies on this.
@krisspy: The earlier link that specifically talked about the dangers of IR exposure (with the green laser pointer spilling out into IR spectrum) before the conversation went down EMF weapons.
Throughout history we have had many "smarter people" push cigarettes as healthy, leaded fuel as perfectly safe, swapping sugar in for fat in processed foods, making thalidomide as perfectly safe for women to take for morning sickness, ect ect ect. Your level of trust in Chinese made, mass produced IR panels is concerning to me.
800w of light energy is A LOT for such a small area. If it was a LED it would be so bright that it would actually cause temporary blindness. There are other dangers of LED lighting too: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-05-eyes-health-authority…
You're welcome to say it's safe, I'm welcome to discuss the dangers and let people make up their own mind. I think it's dangerous for you to say that just because smarter people deemed it safe means that it's safe without exception. That level of trust is dangerous and has lead us down really horrible paths throughout history, as I'm sure you are aware of your own examples that I didn't list where blind trust has lead humanity down terrible paths with disastrous outcomes.
I personally think that it's so inefficient that not only is it not worth the dangers, it's not worth it at all over the alternatives. It's a DOA tech unless using it for outdoors to replace gas heaters.
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