I had Logitech Z623 set up before and quite liked the bass from subwoofer. Only ever used it at 50% bass setting.
I have recently upgraded to Yamaha RXv4a and KEF Q350.
Help with choosing a subwoofer from 3 listed below will be greatly appreciated.
Please Please Please, Help Me Choose between Three Subwoofers
TheGhost on 15/08/2021 - 14:35
Last edited 15/08/2021 - 14:47 by 1 other user
Last edited 15/08/2021 - 14:47 by 1 other user
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- 4SW150
- 4MRW-10
- 2V8
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I just need more bass. Currently not satisfied with the bass.
For music playback or movies? Those aren't ideal movie speakers.
Music mainly. 80-20 music-movies
Do you mean they shouldn't be connected to a home theatre receiver??
have you considered the svs sb1000 pro, i picked up one new for around 819 @digital cinema. spec wise it's alot better than the one's you have listed for not much more
I did look at that. Bit too big and pricey I guess?
it's 13inch size and not much more than one's you have listed above.
Thanks. Looks like it have to be SVS.
At the top end of your price range I went with a svs pb1000. Goes extremely low which is good for movies and games, but doesn't go super loud. I think decent pairing with your q350's.
I use them with 5.1 q100's.
It doesn't have to be very loud. I am after good punchy bass. Consensus seems to be towards SVS.
None of the above
Any recommendations around $700?
Most helpful post of all time.
Get the SVS SB1000 or the 1000pro.
Only a bit more than a couple of your choices (@899 delivered). If you pick up, I’m sure they’ll give you a discounthttps://www.apollohifi.com.au/svs-sb1000-pro-sealed-subwoofe…
Thanks. Guess I have to shell out a bit more.
aaahhh… more context please!
Purpose?
Room type?
Music/HT?
The list goes on.Sounds like you are trying to put together a 2.1 system?
Generally, look at the frequency response of your KEF's and match the low/bass Hz with that of the Sub. Have some overlap and tune it accordingly.
Asking for a forum group to recommend a sub from a, b, c. is like asking random's to recommend a car and listing a 2 door coupe, suv, and ute. All different cars with very different designed use cases, and no context of what one wants/needs to use the car for. Sure, they are all cars and will get you to the supermarket, but none of those 3 are going to help as a people mover if you have 4 kids, 2 dogs, and nan and pop! lol… Not being rude, just trying to put things in context. :)
Lots of sub-brands in the market. I'm a fan of Yamaha as a good bang for the buck, even a lot of AU brands like Richter, Krix, and the list goes on which are all good options and worth considering as well.
Remember, low frequency (sub) generally does not carry a 'sound signature' like that, or in the same way as a pair of speaks. While each sub will perform differently in a general sense, often designed differently, side port, sealed, down-firing etc. Bass is more of a 'general' sound.
So get the one you like the most, that matches the type of usage you intend to have it for etc.
If its a 2.1 music system, and depending on the type of music you listen to, then typically you want a sub that will be smaller and able to respond (not to be confused with frequency response). You will often find, larger 10"+ sub that are designed for HT will be slow to respond with your listening to fast punchy music types like electronic/edm/dance/trance etc. Using a big sub with a slow driver will produce a drowning sound or murky sound if you follow what I mean. Yet, when used in the same in a HT system with big rumbling scenes it will typically sound great and could even give your butt a nice little massage!
(Sure, we can start talking about phasing etc, but let's stop there for the purpose of this one).See if you can find somewhere to test each out with your speakers playing whatever it is you plan on listening to and see what best suits… (Lockdown pending).
That's the best way I can explain it right now, without getting overly technical. :)
Hope this helps.
Greatly appreciate your detailed, informative and helpful response mate. You guessed it right about it being a 2.1 system.
I am not looking for house rumbling bass by any means. Just want a nice tight punchy bass for music. Using it in our living room around 4.3*4.7
I only listed these subs as they are under my budget and have good reviews.
No prob. A nice punchy 8" or 10" should do the job for you… Few Yamaha boxes should be in the price range and suit your sound requirements (as a guess).
https://au.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/speakers/ns-s…
See if you can find one of these sub $500… Maybe Len or Garry at Len Wallis can ship one over to you if you don't like the idea of the 2nd hand Richter they have.
For a room f around 4x4m and a 2.1 setup as per the kit you already have, I suspect this will be more than enough. 50w is pretty reasonable for such a solution.
Your 350's carry a Frequency Response 63Hz-28kHz (±3dB)
The SW100 - 25–180 Hz
Without looking at the graphs, I think this would be a good option and choice for your budget.The Richter below has a Frequency Response: 22Hz–180Hz
Bother very capable. That is unless you're going to overdrive the system and/or cane the $#17 out of it all! But again, I don't know your personal taste etc.
Forgot to mention, you can move a sub around within a room and end up with a very different result. The sound deflection from the sub ports will make a big difference also.
Not to oversimplify… Imagine, distance from the walls, air movement mass etc. Now imagine the air movement/wave hitting a wall for example and exploding, move the sub/ports away from a wall, and the bang is less/smaller. Same as bass-reflex rear-ported loudspeakers and front or side ported cabinets.
You will also want to think about the hardness of the room. If hard floors and limited soft furnishings, then sound is going to bounce around a lot. A sub can sound super bad in hard rooms…
Whatever you decide to do… Good luck, but remember, let your ears decided, not your wallet or eyes when reading reviews or specs… 👍🙉
Thanks again mate. I had a look at Yamaha subs last night and found them on sale at Amazon. Might go for one of them as they under my budget.
Great advice to use the ears instead of review/hype.
What's your opinion on one of those rotary subs?
In the case of what the OP is looking for - no go.
In general, not all that good from what I've come to understand. But not really had any experience. All a bit too unnatural in my opinion. But then again, one of my fav sets of cans are planer magnet. Not the norm there compared to the usual driver design…Hmmm, interesting, heard the the rotaries can work down to 5 hertz, maybe even 1; they'd be great for movies I guess…or music that have sub bass less than 30 that you want to hear with some authority behind…. i sure wouldn't mind having one or two of these for playing games….
@Zachary: Yeah, I suspect they could be ok for movies etc. but not sure on audio. I wonder if they would be responsive and quick enough for music…
Really don't know.Think if I wanted to drop to a sub 10Hz, i'd get a couple of long-throw deep 10's or 12's. Really don't know enough about rotary subs to be honest…
Here is an option for you, if you are ok with a 2nd hand item.
https://lenwallisaudio.com/products/secondhand-hifi-av-equip…
Thanks. Will look into it.
Best option so far !
Be quick or I may grab it ! 😁hahahaha - and we will kick bidding off at $345!
I might grab it and let the two of you fight it out…
I would recommend going for SVS 1000pb pro, it will help you in your future up-gradation as well. If your budget is extremely tight, then I would recommend you to go for Klipsch R-100SW 10-Inch Sub https://www.digitalcinema.com.au/klipsch-r-100sw-10-inch-sub… If you are going to buy Klipsch, you can go to Harvey norman ask to price match with Digital cinema and pay with 5% gift cards. Enjoy!!
Thanks mate. I might have to stretch my budget a little for SVS.
Considered Krix Seismix 3…?
Had a look. Way over my budget.
I'm very happy with a Krix Seismix 5 with the amplifier upgrade they released. The current equivalent version is now known as Volcanix. They are not cheap, but they are very good, as long as you know how to position a sub.
On the cheaper end of spectrum, the Accent Acoustics Hide sub performs very well, given the price. Works well for music in a cluttered 4.5m x 5.5m room with 2.5m ceiling.
I have a couple svs subs, can't go wrong. Might need a DSP for any sub with built-in DSP as the flat response can really boost room modes.
Yamaha SW300
These are used in combination with their flagship 3D sounder YSP5600.You want the best.
On sale at Amazon at the moment.
Have you tried repositioning your existing sub for more oomph? Also have you checked your speakers aren't cancelling each other out with phase?
I don't have a sub at the moment. I have checked the phase and it is correct as far as I can tell.
Maybe go second hand? A 12" velodyne etc
I have been looking at gumtree and FB market place for last couple of months. Didn’t find any decent subs. Will keep looking.
For what purpose? You have semi-premium bookshelf speakers connected to a home theatre receiver. Why?