Been looking into PFC Sinewave UPS for my home setup.
This appears to be the cheapest price thus far - not sure if will get cheaper during black friday however!
1% surcharge applies for select payment methods
Rest of Cyberpower range available at 15% off:
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/Cyberpower-UPS-Power-Prot…
Also noticed this! Do you have call a specific store or number in order to do a price beat?
You need to call. I think I got lucky but its doesn't hurt to try.
Officeworks always do this. They are scum. Their pricematch policy is a rort.
managed to pricebeat with officeworks for the 1300VA, $251.75
mmm delicious Sinewave
But what does PFC stand for?
Pretty (profanity) Crap?
PFC = Active Power Factor Correction
Some high end PSU's will use PFC and therefore make it a requirement to use a PFC UPS in order for the power transfer to occur smoothly without cutting out your PC power.
Power Factor Correction. Their website doesn't actually say that it is an APFC load, but just that it will support loads with PFC (ie, almost any modern computer power supply).
Usually PFC circuits would probably handle choppy stepped-wave output UPSs just fine, so it's just some marketing wank - their way of saying this unit has a sinewave output. Look under "Active Power Factor Correction Supplies for IT Equipment"
https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/ups/pfc-sinewave/c…
Sinewave is cool and all; but everything I use on my UPS is converted to DC before its 'consumed'; so for most people using this for modern DC electronics, they dont need to spend the extra.
If you intend to use it during a power out for things like a kettle, fan, fridge, anything that uses AC, then yeah, sinewave is a huge pro.
Hmm my HX1000 PSU says it utilises Active PFC, had thought that this meant I would need a PFC / Sinewave UPS?
kettle, fan, fridge, anything that uses AC
Setting aside the fact that a kettle is 2400W, and a fridge can draw up to 4000W on compressor startup (thus either won't be serviceable on most consumer UPS's), neither of these need pure sinewaves like old-school linear power supplies did… if it's any form of AC they'll function perfectly fine.
Looks like they have a sale on all CyberPower https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/Cyberpower-UPS-Power-Prot…
Have people pricebeat Shopping Express at OW before?
Hmmmm, this seems like a good deal. Been looking for a rackmount one to power my NAS and network equipment.
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/cyberpower-ols3000ert…
EDIT: $117.08 for shipping….
It will also require a 15A circuit and wall socket. So there are electrician costs involved. Unless you run it off grid, etc.
The shipping will be high as it is 31.3kg (shipping package weight).
Can require, not will require.
You'll need an adaptor for the larger ground pin; and you'll trip a 10A breaker if you try to fully load it; but so long as you draw less than 10A through it, it will still function a-ok on normal breakers.
Just like powering a caravan.
@MasterScythe: The smaller unit (1 step down): https://www.umart.com.au/CyberPower-Online-S--A--2000VA-1800… is $799 at umart and their delivery charge is smaller. Less capacity but if you do have a power out and your devices drain the batteries the UPS will try and recharge the batteries as quickly as possible when the power comes back, while trying to continue to power your devices. So, the 2700W UPS will keep tripping your breaker if it starts pulling more than 77% of its current draw capacity, but the 1800W UPS won't trip your breaker. To reduce the load with 2700W UPS during that recharge period you'll need to take some devices offline to bring the current draw below 10A.
It's not all about converting the physical pin size and having a smaller constant load. But, it may be a fun experiment to see if the UPS will never use more than 10A.
But people do what people do even if its a bad idea, like running a device that at some point in its life is highly likely to continuously overload the circuit. And if its never going to run at 77% or more of its capacity then its over specification for needs.
In summary, either a bad idea or waste of money or both to run a UPS that needs more than 10A on a 10A circuit. There are cheaper choices for less demanding requirements.
I read it as max input 13A, not actually drawing that much unless you have equipment that will draw 13A.
Charging is at max 1.5A and I don't intend to use the IEC C19 16A output.
Been using 900va model for about 2 years and it's much better than previous APC one with all the display & buttons.
Tho the charge level is unreliable at best, says 100% then as soon as AC cut off it drops to 50%
Would love to try li-ion one but that's more $$.
You can put a LiFePO4 battery in your lead acid UPS; they're quite the affordable upgrade.
Can you expand on this? Would I need to rebuild the pack or is there a drop in available?
They drop in. Just make sure the BMS is built in (most are) and away you go.
Have a read of https://offroadliving.com.au/blogs/12-volt/can-i-charge-my-l…
Its a bad idea to do a simple replacement of Lead Acid with Lithium without changing the charging profile. So you need a UPS that has different charging profiles or something that alters the profile to suit the lithium battery.
@g1: For straight lithium cells yes, but plenty of brands have the BMS built in.
I was careful to note that requirement :)
Since lithium wants a slightly higher float, you wont quite reach the rated capacity, but a 12v SLA charges at 14v, so the BMS will handle taking it to above 80% safely.
Its a good upgrade, done it tens of times.
@MasterScythe: Do you have a url or model name/number for the lithium battery/batteries with BMS that you've been using in your upgrades?
Maybe your battery is failing
Mine gradually drops pretty smoothly
Just bought a second recently (slightly more than this price) for my gaming PC, sick of power drops haha!
The batteries are meant to be replaced every 2-3 years anyway. They are standard 12V 7.2Ah sealed glass matt batteries anyway. You can buy replacement batteries for cheap from any battery shop.
$23.49 shipping fee, wow
Wow, yeah.
Thats insanely cheap for the weight.
Good spotting!
Other businesses generally include shipping, this price is not much cheaper xD
Which?
This particular model also has 6 x outlets all protected and utilize the battery. The other option if you dont need so many outlets is the 2200va https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/cyberpower-value-soho… with two 4 x protected outlets but only 2 x utilize the battery.
This is the one I am running! User replaceable batteries, and a guarantee from Cyberpower if attached devices are damaged.
Only stepped or simulated sinewave though, haven't been able to find a consistent opinion on how PC's handle that.
This model is the pure sine wave one. The cheaper model comes with simulated sine wave. So just check if this is indeed the one you have, they all look very similar, physically, and the part numbers are similar.
For this particular model on this listing, the PC's PSU works fine with it. My monitors, router, modem, chargers etc, all work perfectly with the sine wave output of this UPS.
By this, I mean the link Micky posted, which is simulated not pure.
I have been using the 2200va CyberPower value for quite a while for my home server and network gear.
I will typically get around 2 hours of run time out of my server and network gear together, running at approx 80 watts, so this is a good choice if you want to keep things running for a short power out.
The end goal was to shut down the server and keep the network running for more hours using NUT on a Pi, I did achieve this but I also discovered that FTTC and FTTN NBN connections have NO power redundancy at a network level, so if the power is out to the suburb, it's out to the system even if your whole house has standby power.
Now I wish I had gotten a smaller UPS to just shut down the system as soon as the power goes out…
I'm looking to buy a UPS for my NAS, router and NBN box but now you mention this I might up for a smaller UPS as I will only need one outlet for the NAS. Great info, I never even thought about NBN technologies being down even with backup power.
More info re NBN technologies in event of blackout: https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/what-happens-in-a-power-black…
Also very surprise to find out that HFC also down during power outage. I am quite sure, the old "cable internet" works fine during power outage on UPS.
"Landline phone and internet services won’t work in the event of a power outage within the nbn™ HFC network or within your premises."
So it depends on if the network part is also out of power.
I've been thinking of adding a backup on the FTTP connection and local network, seems like value pro is the way to go.
I bought one of these back in 2018. It seems to be working fine still, but I was considering new batteries and I have no idea where to start. Can I get one from battery world, or something like that? What exactly do I need to replace the ones that came with the 1500VA/900W model?
Check your manual to see what batteries it uses. I believe it should be a 24V battery pack, which is essentially 2x 12V 7.2Ah batteries in an adapter frame. Mine is the exact same 1500VA PFC Sinewave model in this listing, and it was exactly that arrangement. I bought 2 batteries from an online store, removed the 24V battery pack, separated out the two 12V batteries from the frame (they were held together with sticky tape), reapplied new tape and connected the frame to the new batteries.
Thanks. You know, after all the web surfing I did to try and find out the answer for myself, I never thought just to look in the manual.
We have a 5x 3000VA tower cyberpower around. Roundabouts coming to 3yrs old and most have seemed to develop an error code 51.. pertaining to fan failure. All front fans have seemed to have failed and the Unit will refuse to operate and will shutdown. Already explored trying to replace fans with alternatives but a no go. There is a blogg somewhere who had hacked it using their own 555 timing cct for the signal fan wire. Cyberpower support don't sell the fan but will gladly fix your unit for approx $300+ handshake plus your postage both ways.
I did a pricebeat with officeworks yesterday on this with click and collect came down to $299.25
Waiting for it to be delivered to the store. I noticed very soon after that officeworks show that this is out of stock on their website, probably to stop pricebeat!