First Post, Decent price for RTX 3070 ti at current market. Same price as Evatech Colorful RTX 3070 Ti offer but with a better brand imo.
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Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3070 Ti EAGLE 8GB GDDR6X RGB LED Graphics Card $1399 + Delivery + Surcharge @ Shopping Express
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Lyibow on 27/12/2021 - 00:01 shoppingexpress.com.au (1324 clicks)
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Fixed, cheers.
Price in the title please
Fixed, thanks.
Is it the cheapest 3080 Ti currenlty in the market?
OPs title and description state 3070ti?, I doubt 3080 Ti would be that low price but hey do state I'm wrong lolz?
No, but it is probably the cheapest 3070 Ti AU stock I cound find today.
eBay had 10% off pretty much everything yesterday and there were some better cards around this price. But it probably ended at midnight.
I tried find on ebay, the cheapest 3070 Ti is $1583 after 10% Discount.
The model is MSI GeForce RTX 3070 Ti GAMING X TRIO.Ahhh, I probably missed. but i did a quick search on ebay and found most 3070 ti offers are above $1600, so if considering 10% off which is still more than $1399 right? did i miss anything more?
@yibow: Yeah the cheaper ones would have been bought in the first few minutes. The discount still works for other things too.
Sorry about typo, 3070 Ti
By the way, what is the cheapest 3080 Ti at this Christmas?$2288 last posted price on Ozbargain I've seen of the 3080 ti, not sure if it's been the cheapest price👍😁
Would recommend you avoid Ampere cards (RTX 30 series), I mean these cards are heavily inflated right now, you'll buy them only to be burned in a couple of months. So unless you have no GPU at all, I would just hodl. Q3 this upcoming year is the next generation. If you've held off this long, save your cash and just go gangbusters at release of the new stuff. That way you won't have buyer's remorse for about two years, you'll be set!
I just wait for rtx 4000, wait wait, I’ll wait for rtx 5000. On a second thought, I’ll just keep waiting for the next big thing…!
Sounds like a plan 👍😁😝
Sorry for trying to help out. Like I said, unless you have no GPU at all, there's really no point when the market's so bad. There's no good deal, but if you wait 9-10 months, you can maybe get more bang for buck. I don't see why everyone is so toxic on this website, it's OzBargain, not OzBuyAnInflatedGPUAndGetLessBangForBuck. Your money, your choice. But more information is always better.
@KARMAAA: You realise that, since these are the "normal" prices, Nvidia and AMD will literally just charge more for the equivalent cards next gen. Also I don't see GPU prices going down to pre covid levels for years to come.
@stylsh: You really think NVIDIA's making the profit here the most and will just charge more? It's the AIBs, suppliers and distributors making the profit. NVIDIA sells their dies at their usual rate, they have contracts with AIBs to sell at a certain price, these prices were locked in way before any price hike due to COVID or anything else. So for a card like a 3070 with an MSRP of $499 USD, they're likely selling the die to AIBs for around $200-250. Whether the AIB sells their 3070 cards at $550 USD or $1500 USD, NVIDIA isn't making any more money… Same thing with miners buying cards, NVIDIA's not getting that money, AIBs are. Especially since FE cards are limited to a certain quantity. Thats why NVIDIA is pushing CMP so hard because they get all the profit then from miners and it keeps miners away from their gaming lineup.
These are not the normal prices and despite what you read on Reddit or news websites, it's not in NVIDIA's best interests to sell thousand dollar mid range cards, especially when a third player is entering the market in Intel and when PC Gaming is growing faster than ever. NVIDIA's best interest is to keep prices down and just flood the market with their GPUs so that they maintain market share and constant quarterly income. It hurts their brand if people can't buy their product and for Jensen the brand is everything. It's not just about profit for NVIDIA, if they only cared for profit they'd only sell certain GPUs and not bother with low end products like MX350 and such because those bring in little to no profit. In addition, they'd be just supplying to miners because after all, "a sale is a sale and money is money", but again, Jensen knows those people aren't repeat customers. Miners only care about profitability, so if NVIDIA has a bad generation of mining cards compared to AMD, they're not going to sell as well. But for gamers, well, you can have a bad generation and still sell extremely well because mindshare, branding and features are what matter to gamers. Gamers are repeat customers. So it's not just about profit, it's about steady revenue, income and the power of the brand being upheld.
NVIDIA got burned hard by 20 series not selling to expectations because pricing was too high. I distinctly remember Jensen saying on the RTX 30 series launch that "For Pascal owners, it's safe to upgrade" since 20 series really underperformed. NVIDIA knows, pricing can't keep going on like this. It means people holding off before they get their next upgrade, which is less NVIDIA GPUs moving off store shelves and into people's gaming PC's. That's not a sustainable business model. You might have record profits one year only for the subsequent years to be absolutely woeful in terms of revenue till the next big boom. So selling thousand dollar mid range 3070's and 3060's is not a sustainable business model with constant income, for that to occur you need good reasons for people to keep upgrading and you need to make it affordable to do so.
The only reason 30 series has done so well is because dGPU market has grown on the whole due to people needing new PCs for work from home, or to do school work or simply because people bought a rig to work and play on with more spare time thanks to lockdowns. With lockdowns largely ending, the vaccines being out there and for the most part Omicron looking like it being less deadly, you're not going to see revenue like you saw in 2020 and 2021 in the future. It's part of the reason why most of these CEOs for these tech companies has said that the chip shortage will end and pricing will go back to normal in 2023 in terms of projections.
@KARMAAA: Well actually, have you looked into their financial results?
Quoted from their website from their 3rd QTR results
"NVIDIA today reported record revenue for the third quarter ended October 31, 2021, of $7.10 billion, up 50 percent from a year earlier and up 9 percent from the previous quarter, with record revenue from the company’s Gaming, Data Center and Professional Visualization market platforms."
"Record Gaming revenue of $3.22 billion, up 42 percent from a year earlier"
Soooo with the global shortage of silicon wafers, they are making record profits. Do you really think they haven't upped their prices? Intel coming out with their own cards will help, but if their cards are great for mining, guess what happens?
Business sense would be if demand outweighs supply, you charge more until demand drops below supply again. They can always give you a "price drop" later if needed and everyone would be like "OMG thank you Nvidia for dropping the price." And there will always be a demand due to mining as that will always be around. There will always be a coin to mine that is profitable, so demand is always going to be there competing with the gamers. The CMP stuff isn't popular because you can't resell the card as easily. Given the choice a miner will always choose a normal GPU than a CMP card even if it costs more.
I truly think that a $2000 graphics card will be the norm for high end cards from now if not higher. People's perception of graphics card value will change the longer this goes on. I remember everyone being outraged by a $1000 Nvidia 8800GTX/ULTRA when it first came out, when was in awe when my friend bought one for his rig. Now $1000 is seen to be a mid range card, that no one bats an eye lid at.
[edit] I'm not trying to argue for the sake of it, this is what I believe will be the case at least for the next gen cards from both camps.
Soooo with the global shortage of silicon wafers, they are making record profits.
Yes, I already said they're making record profits. As I said here:
"The only reason 30 series has done so well is because dGPU market has grown on the whole due to people needing new PCs for work from home, or to do school work or simply because people bought a rig to work and play on with more spare time thanks to lockdowns. With lockdowns largely ending, the vaccines being out there and for the most part Omicron looking like it being less deadly, you're not going to see revenue like you saw in 2020 and 2021 in the future."
Thats not sustainable though, because eventually people will have a good enough PC and they're not going to pay thousands in droves for mid range GPUs. People only put up somewhat this time, because they had to for work or for school or whatever else have a capable system. Once it's saturated, that sort of panic buying goes away and dries up. Even today, the biggest GPU on steam is the GTX 1060, followed by the 1650 and then the 1050 Ti. That's the bulk customer base, $250 USD GPUs or lower. Thats how NVIDIA maintains dominance and gets devs to use their technologies like DLSS, Hairworks etc, over their competitor's technology long into the future. They've failed to really assert that same dominance with another product ever again. That's 20% of gamers that could be using DLSS or ray tracing, that are now missing out because they have a 10 series card because 20 series and 30 series are too expensive on the street to buy. Thats the end goal, not some short terms profits for their investors to buy in at a higher share price.
Do you really think they haven't upped their prices?
Yes, because I've spoken to a friend of mine who works for an AIB and in fact NVIDIA has dropped the price of their dies for AIBs in an effort to keep prices lower, but also because yields got better. But with VRAM shortages and copper and other supplies going up, it's done nothing to help curb what AIBs are paying for materials, because those have all increased. Then, once it leaves an AIB, a distributor can charge whatever they like to the retailer. Many e-tailers and retailers have stated that some distributors are just pushing the price up or making you pay for excess inventory for other things like PSU's or RAM or PC Cases, if they want the GPUs as close to AIB RRP. So you might get 100 RTX 3070's at RRP, but you're buying 5000 junk PSUs on top, which means the retailer now has to bundle these items to the customer with the GPU to recoup costs, or increase GPU prices anyway to get back whatever they lost on these junk items they never wanted. It's not NVIDIA here that's the problem.
Intel coming out with their own cards will help, but if their cards are great for mining, guess what happens?
AMD's cards are pretty much dog water at mining, yet still inflated because again, it's just about demand and supply of other materials. Mining is a minority of the reason why GPUs are the price they are. In fact, VRAM and copper have more of an influence on the price than mining does.
Business sense would be if demand outweighs supply, you charge more until demand drops below supply again.
And yet, there's more GPUs available than a year ago, yet the prices are more expensive.I could buy a 3070 right now if I wanted to. A year ago, I'd have to sit in a queue. You need to understand it's not demand for GPUs but it's the demand and supply for the materials contained within it that stream across supply chains for other goods. Demand for GPUs is high, no doubt, but really you can buy one if you wanted to. The price is just heavily inflated due to other supply chain problems.
They can always give you a "price drop" later if needed and everyone would be like "OMG thank you Nvidia for dropping the price.
Again, NVIDIA's not the problem here. The RRP for the 3070 has always been $499. It's up to AIBs and distributors to meet that price or close to it for retailers to deliver that to customers. There's no "price drop" because there was never a "price increase" by NVIDIA…
And there will always be a demand due to mining as that will always be around.
Sure, but again, the reason prices are high isn't just because of mining, it's the whole supply chain having lower output. If VRAM goes up 50% due to lower supply, that means if VRAM costs $40, all the sudden it costs $60 for the same VRAM and you're likely getting less allocation. Less allocation, means more waiting around, more waiting around means higher costs for production and more to transport per GPU and so on. If copper goes up 80%, well you're paying almost double what you were before. You have to look at it holistically, it's not just "mining!". Every piece of anything that goes into a graphics card is in high demand. Plastic shrouds, fans, PCB's, LED Lights, capacitors, copper, aluminium, gold, the GPU itself, etc. Then add on gasoline has increased, there's not enough space in trucks, boats, planes etc to transport stuff. These things all magnify the cost in the long term. But to the lay person, it's miners that are making the cost super high, when in reality, it's the whole supply chain, adding cost onto something.
The CMP stuff isn't popular because you can't resell the card as easily. Given the choice a miner will always choose a normal GPU than a CMP card even if it costs more.
Incorrect, the CMP170HX is a far better card at mining in terms of performance per watt than any gaming GPU. 3090 for instance about $7 USD per day. CMP170HX, $10 USD per day. In fact, miners are clamouring for CMP170HX cards because they're so efficient in terms of power usage and because also the gaming GPUs are hard to buy in bulk, the mining cards are easier to obtain in bulk, so they're actually starting to move towards them. Not to mention, some 3090's are getting into CMP170HX territory in terms of price, so you're basically at parity in terms of mining profitability. As for resale, there's been hacks in the past getting mining GPUs to have other uses and the same thing will happen again, but largely, the miner will just keep these things mining until they earn no profit and just chuck them. With something like the CMP170HX, mining isn't just going to become unprofitable overnight, it's going to be a slow burn, so likely they will resell them once they start only making $4 USD a day, as opposed to $10 USD a day and just cash out on some low information newbie to mining.
I truly think that a $2000 graphics card will be the norm for high end cards from now if not higher.
Reminds me of how people said that back in the 8800 GTX days that $1000 was just the beginning and look what happened, pricing came down because no one wanted to pay $1000 for a piece of hardware that has a two year lifespan, if that of being relevant: https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2017/3/1c9a8251-8039-4dc6-9…
People's perception of graphics card value will change the longer this goes on.
Nope, 8800 GTX is exactly that example of how, even after that, pricing came down. Don't forget, very soon we're going to be in a recession because of old Joe's great economy, so NVIDIA's going to have to further correct their MSRP because it's not sustainable for the new customers they've found once the Fed stops printing money and interest rates increase. Pricing will come down again once we have a correction, just like what happened after the GFC.
Now $1000 is seen to be a mid range card, that no one bats an eye lid at.
Actually, there's forum threads everyday about people being outraged. So no, it's not the norm, people bat an eyelid all the time and are very pissed.
@KARMAAA: How long have you been in GPU bro? I've been around for 20+ years in GPU market!
Every single generation, people say "wait for next gen, it will be cheaper" lol!!!!!!!!!!!
As long as inflation is increasing, and crypto going mainstream, GPU prices might actually INCREASE from now!
@neosin: About 13-15 years, just before 8800 GTX. Regardless, it did get cheaper over time, I literally linked a chart above. I'll relink it here: https://hexus.net/media/uploaded/2017/3/1c9a8251-8039-4dc6-9…
$699 was and is the sweet spot for high end cards, with little wage growth, inflation and bad economic prospects in the U.S NVIDIA can't afford to price their customers out of the market RRP wise. The reason you're seeing high prices is external forces outside of NVIDIA.
@stylsh: They make record profits by selling 100% of their production.
There may be some price hikes but they are obviously very minor, otherwise laptops and prebuilts would not exist at the prices they do.
We also have another layer of distributors in Australia, in the US cards at RRP do make it to retail, they just sell out quickly.
However we already know Nvidia is refreshing their entire product line for 2022, they will likely increase prices at their end until Intel starts being a competitor.
@KARMAAA: Seems you have little knowledge of how economics work. These could be the normal prices going forword. People were saying hold 9 months ago & we are still paying similar prices.
I would say, if you want a high-end card, you work hard, you can justify paying a few hundred more and have the enjoyment of owning & using the card now, regardless, just do it.
Ended up paying $1700 for a 6800 XT a few months ago & zero regrets. Yes I know it was about $300 - 400 overpriced, but over the course of 4 - 5 years that only about $70 a year of savings, which is never going to make any kind of difference financially either way.
@TilacVIP: Aka, buy now if the price is within your range (budget), no point keep waiting if you want to enjoy the games you want to play.
@KARMAAA: I don't have any gpu at all, been sitting on my hands re building due to this reason. Maybe I'll wait even longer 😓
@TeamSAXON: If you have nothing, just buy the best value thing you can for your rig. I'm not saying price yourself out and have no fun at all and never buy a rig. But if you are like many people here with a GTX 1060 or a 20 series card, or even an older card like a GTX 970, you can wait and just save your money for a couple more months for 40 series to drop. Honestly, pre-ordering a 40 series card at RRP seems like your best bet in terms of value coming up. But if you need something now, try and find someone selling either something used at a decent price or just buy the best value 3060 Ti you can considering that seems to be the best value card in the 30 series.
Worth buying this? Or wait for the 12gb version. Currently using a 1070 rog strix but its getting old.
This is a good price. Back to normal price now.
Normal price? On release you could've got a 3080 for this money.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda
12GB version? Do you mean 3080 Ti? Because the only rumoured 3070 Ti with more VRAM is a 16GB model.
oh yeah mb I meant the new 3070ti 16gb
By the time a 3070Ti can utilize 16gb it will be long out dated.
Not something you should consider too much unless you play modded Skyrim 24/7.
The newer versions won't be out until somewhere between Feb-March, and will be pretty hard to get your hands on one right away + there is a price increase on MSRP (might not increase current pricing).If you're going to wait, then wait for the 40 series. For the same money you'll probably be getting 3080Ti performance for the money of a 4070.
Got one, thx OP
Good price but colorful probably better than than gigabyte eagle variant. Not sure why people think colorful is inferior.
People are dumbasses.
I challenge you to find the local RMA centre for colorful..
If you have a local gigabyte card.. and your local retailer goes bust / refuses to deal with you (ie no recipt etc)
you have a fighting chance with gigabyte / asus / msi of going direclty to the manufacturer and obtaining service..
with the lesser known brands, with no physical presence in Australia, you are completely at the mercy of the retailer…
May be the case if it was the Colorful Advanced OC or Vulcan models, but the Battle Ax is the lowest model variant which is comparable to the Gigabyte Eagle.
In terms of brand recognition, Gigabyte is significantly better than Colorful, especially in Australia. Some reviews on 3070 models have noted Colorful temps out the of box is higher than most other brands.
is it still prefer to have nVidia than AMD gpu say if I want it to be future proof in the next 5 years purely for gaming???
Now, im not the most experienced on this stuff, but this unfortunately a 'it depends', on what is important for you. If you want to use tech like DLSS, or ray-tracing, then buy the best card you can afford or find for NVIDIA. AMD has solid alternatives, but not quite as good i think.
But if you don't care about those things, both AMD and NVIDIA have really strong and similar offering for each price points. In the end of the day they have really similar cards, so the best thing you can do to future proof is just buy the best card you can afford, and find in this current GPU climate.the GPU isn't the only thing to consider for future-proofing. It also depends on the resolution you want to play at, at a target frame rate, in the games you are actually playing. An rtx2070 will likely be fine for many years to come if at 1080p 144+fps in most games, but at 1440p 144fps, it might show age quicker. Not by much, but it entirely depends on the games you play, at certain resolutions and framerates
Thx! Dont really care about 1440p or RT or DLSS, as most important for me is FPS.
Price in title, please.