AGL Introduce New Electricity Rates: Demand Price

AGL recently sent an email regarding new rates (QLD based, solar system installed).

Looks like it will be beneficial as General Usage is split into two [General usage (17.10 c/kwh) and demand price(24.10 c/kwh)]
rather than general usage rate of 25.37 c/kwh (GST excluded) throughout the day.

Also, Supply charge going down from 99 c/day to 89 c/day (GST excluded).

Previous rates

Electricity usage | Unit | GST excl. | GST incl

T11 General Usage 1 | c/kWh | 25.37000 | 27.907000
T31 controlled load | c/kWh | 13.93000 | 15.323000
CL31 supply charge | c/day | 3.00000 | 3.300000
Feed-in tariff | c/kWh | 20.00000
Solar metering charge | c/day | 7.00000 | 7.700000
Supply charge | c/day | 99.00000 | 108.900000

Your bills will show the GST exclusive rates and GST will be added
to the totals and appear as a separate line item.
1. Tariff 11 - Residential all usage.
2. Tariff 31 night rate is applicable to customers who have
storage water heaters and permanently connected heat banks.
It can also be used to boost a solar hot water heater. Electricity
supply is made available for a minimum of eight hours per day
at times determined by your Distributor

New rates
As at 3 March 2022

Your Market Contract includes variable rates which can change at any time with prior notice to you. The solar feed-in tariffs will not
change during your energy plan period.

Electricity usage | Unit | GST excl. | GST incl.
General Usage | c/kWh | 17.10000 | 18.810000
T31 controlled load | c/kWh | 13.93000 | 15.323000
CL31 supply charge | c/day | 3.00000 | 3.300000
Feed-in tariff | c/kWh | 20.00000
Solar metering charge | c/day | 7.00000 | 7.700000
Supply charge | c/day | 98.00000 | 107.800000
Demand price | c/KW/day | 24.04000 | 26.444000

Your bills will show the GST exclusive rates and GST will be added
to the totals and appear as a separate line item.
1. Tariff 31 night rate is applicable to customers who have
storage water heaters and permanently connected heat banks.
It can also be used to boost a solar hot water heater. Electricity
supply is made available for a minimum of eight hours per day
at times determined by your Distributor.
2. Peak demand applies 4pm - 9pm weekdays and weekends all
year.

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Comments

  • +3

    i avoid demand tariffs. heavy usage one night and you pay for it the whole billing period

    is it really beneficial to you? won't you be using grid electricity at night and not solar?

    • I am unaware of demand tariffs. That’s pretty awful to know that heavy usage one night affects the whole billing period. I’m confirming with AGL and try to get back on old plan to avoid this cheap tactic from AGL.

      • to see if you benefit, you need to go through some of your previous usage data.

        demand charge for 90 day billing period = peak usage over any 30m interval 4-9pm for tariff 11 on any day during the billing period * 2 * $0.26444 * 90 days. that's on top of your actual usage and supply charges

        agl's definition is:
        "Demand: Demand Charges are based on the load you place on the electricity network. It is measured over 30-minute intervals during your demand time period. The highest measure for the billing month is used to calculate your Demand charge for the entire month. Demand charges may also change by season."

  • If I understand correctly, demand charges basically like a charge to make electricity available during peak times… like capacity charges.

    I would avoid this as much as possible. It's a horrible impost.

    • Thanks mate. I’ll avoid it and try to go on old plan if possible.

  • Is this plan still available for new sign ups? Can't seem to find it on their website - looks like it might be an older plan… The 20c feed-in-tariff is pretty good!

    • I am with AGL 10 years in a row. Solar for 4 years and counting. Best way is to negotiate solar FIT with your current provider’s retention team. If you’re lucky you may get 18c with Origin as one of mate did it Sep last year.

  • Is this Time of Use, or genuine demand tariffs?

    Ergon has tarifffs 12B & 31 for TOU and off-peak, while 11 is 24hr constant rate and then 14, 14A and 14B for demand tariffs ($2.80, up to $8 per kW during peak times).

    Since these are marked as tariff 11, I don't think this list is accurate.

    • I’m checking up with AGL about this dodgy practice.

  • OP be very careful, you state the demand price is "demand price(24.10 c/kwh)" but that is incorrect, it is a completely different unit of measurement being c/KW/day. This is completely different to time of use billing which is just different rates per time of day but all billed in c/KWh.

    Read this article to understand what it means. In summary, if you have a single high blip in usage you'll be paying for that blip every single day of the month. It is designed to reward those with steady usage patterns and punish those with fluctuating patterns as baseload power needs to be able to cope with the spikes, however infrequent.

    https://www.canstarblue.com.au/electricity/demand-tariffs/

    • Daylight robbery by energy providers. Waiting for solar batteries to go cheaper. Will go off the grid. Ciao.

    • this demand tariff is nothing new, some retailer already implemented it in other states before, 2 years ago EA had such plan in Vic too. They just give you 10c discount on daily supply but slugged you with this demand tariff, but if you've been with AGL for long then there's high chance you've been ripped off because their rates are almost always in the top range.

  • So the usual price obsfucating rubbish to destroy the economy with year on year 10% price rises and the worst productivity of any sector in the nation's history.

    What's even more amazing is the fools in QLD and NSW voted for this after watching it destroy all the other states.

    • Hang on, I thought increased consumer spending was good for the economy?? Not to mention the additional GST being collected /s

    • I send my bills to Peter Beattie, who promised lower bills, despite the exact opposite happening around the world since Thatcher.

      The cheshire cat always says sorry in that way he did when Premier, so I forgive him every time.

  • Any update on talking to AGL to get back on old plan?

    • If AGL can't help you you might as well change to a different provider. Use energymadeeasy.gov.au and search with your bill details to find a better plan.

      That way you can be sure you're not getting a demand tariff on your new plan and avoid the mess.

      • I'm getting 61c feed-in-tarrif rate from AGL for my solar.. If I switch provider may be my solar feed-in rates will drop significantly so not sure abt switching provider (may be someone can answer)

        • Again, put your details in the website and compare your plan. No point getting 61c FIT if you're paying through the nose for usage costs.

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