Road Rage No Police Action

Hi all, Posting something for the first time ever so please be gentle.

I am little disturbed with an incident this evening and just thought of sharing it with you folks and let it out and not sure if there is something else I could have done. So here goes…

I was in a one way street where 2 cars in front of me were waiting for spots to park and I was patiently waiting behind with my family in the car. This a narrow one way street with cars parked on both sides of the street. The moment the 2nd car in front of me moves into the spot, he is still half on the street as you can imagine trying to reverse park, the SUV driver behind starts to flash his lights, honk roll down his windows and starts yelling for me to move. He even came out of the car threatening me with violence. I rolled up my windows clearly shaken, I called up the police and told them the entire incident.

Obviously I was too shaken to drive immediately plus I mis-understood that the police would show immediately (not comparing but just a similar call in US would have a cop car immediately at the scene) so I stayed in the same spot for about 10 minutes. I had informed the SUV driver that I am calling the cops, so at least he did not then act in any away but I had others requesting to move my car so I could unblock the street which I did.

The police called me after 35 minutes and told me the reason they were contacting me now is they thought it was not serious enough an incident and instead asked me what action I was expecting them to take ( apparently the SUV driver had called them as well) I was like I just wanted to ensure that driver didn't go around threatening people on the road to which I was told that they will contact the driver and tell him to more patient?

Well I maybe wrong but I found that to be a very mild action in comparison to someone threatening you with violence when you are with your family, such rowdy behaviour should be dealt with more strict action even if it means just making them sit in the police station for a few hours to drive the point home….not sure but here my rant ends, thanks all for reading and yes feel free to suggest if I could have done something else in the situation except bikies :)

Comments

  • +58

    The quicker you get over this, the better it is for you.

    What were you expecting? It's Saturday night and cops are already going to be stretched without these trivial calls.

    • -1

      Yep I understand I am trying to get over it as well but want to rant there which I believe will help me get over…. and I agree cops are busy with more important stuff….and maybe my expectation for an immediate action was not right but whenever they are not so busy to teach some sort of a lesson to the person at least looking how traumatised my kids are I wouldn't want another family to be treated in the same way thats all ….not sure if that is expecting too much as well

      • +12

        I think there is a middle ground to be reached here. It was absolutely within your right and not an over reaction to call the police in this situation if you felt threatened, however i think the action of remaining in place and continuing to block the road for not only the other driver but all other drivers and potentially escalating the situation was the wrong move.

        Call the police, move your car to the nearest safe location that doesn't continue to block the traffic and wait for a response, it will be EXTREMELY rare for someone to attempt to break into your vehicle and assault you over something like this in Australia. There are plenty of people that will yell and scream and "threaten" violence, but a far FAR smaller percentage that will action that. I understand you may have been shaken up by the event, however in my opinion further angering other drivers and potentially causing another incident is far less of a safer option than either leaving the area or at least trying to deescalate the situation.

        • +2

          It is not rare in some specific suburbs….

          • @rave75: I'd be vary curious if you could point to statistical data to back up this claim. I'm referring specifically to people breaking into a car and assaulting someone whilst they are in the vehicle, I'm aware that instances of car break-ins whilst unoccupied might be a lot higher. I'd be vary surprised if it was even double digits per week for the entire greater Melbourne area.

            • +1

              @Slipstream: This has happened to me at the Ikea carpark in Richmond.
              It does happen.

              • @StateOE: Yup and it's happened to me at a McDonald's drive through.

      • +3

        Hi lordezekiel, if you’re referring to the first part of the comment, it’s still relevant for them unfortunately.

      • +4

        Can you actually read? Are you suggesting that rape and assault are trivial matters?

        You would expect the cops to attend every time someone says something to you that you don't like? I'm sorry to tell you that you'll have to deal with your hurt feelings all alone!

        • +19

          If they are threatening violence that is a, completely, different thing. That goes beyond “hurt feelings”. However, given the police inaction on Domestic violence, and harassment, someone being threatened with violence in a road rage incident is unlikely to get any traction.

          • -6

            @try2bhelpful: Probably too busy stuffing their faces with donuts. And if there is a body after, oh so sorry it's the job for the coroner.

            • +2

              @Montyjpm: Or too busy following up pointless complaints from people who get upset and embellish the facts to make it more dramatic than it actually is.

        • +10

          You might want to read up on criminology. The perpetrators always start small, and actions that go unchecked actually embolden them to continue to escalate. The OP probably did everyone a service by calling the cops on the other driver - that's probably enough for them to think twice the next time they get angry.

      • +2

        He has to get over this so the police can focus on rape victims and people who have been assaulted.

        Its just angry words, the police aren't parents.

        • Yup, then next the person decides to damage the vehicle coz they know nothing gets done anyway. Then they escalate and there's physical violence. Suddenly someone gets stabbed in the heart multiple times in a crowded area and we all wonder where it went wrong.

        • I know it may not happen here but there was a YT video of a couple argued with the neighbour over the snow shoving and the end result is a dead couple and the suicided shooter. So "angry words" are NOT just "angry words".

      • +1

        Where in his statement did Bobbified say anything about rape victims and people who have been assaulted?

        You are extrapolating what is unanimously considered to be a traffic scenario into a full-blown sexual/DV/AVO violence scenario and making it the same.

        EDIT: Responding to Lordezekiel

      • +2

        I'm on lordezekiel's side

        Where was THIS checkbox on the "what sucks about Ozbargain"; people like bobbified who are unnecessarily (profanity)y in the forums. OP was clearly pretty shaken up by the whole thing, and rightly so. They were concerned for their safety and family, so called the police. But apparently that somehow makes them worthy of ridicule to people. I don't accept 'yeah well not a big deal' as the kind of response a decent person would give

        • -6

          This incident is only a 'big deal" to people that have lived incredibly sheltered lives, and think police are a private army that will respond to every minor incident in seconds or less. When the reality check comes, it often hurts.

          OP met a (profanity). Hopefully they can heal. In the meantime they chose to stage a sit-in protest and block the road for dozens of others, which was an escalating action. Very little sympathy for that poor choice. In fact, them thinking that was reasonable has me thinking they did more to deserve a frustrated response. Like "Move your bloody car".

          Everyone lies.

          • +3

            @[Deactivated]: It sounds like a deer stuck in the headlights got a hold of the internet. OP if you legitimately felt unsafe you should have driven away from the situation at the earliest possible moment. Sitting around near the “perpetrator” is not a smart idea if they actually have ill intention.

            • +1

              @Maz1: So scared for their safety they decided to block the guy in for 10 minutes. Yeah, buuuuuuuulldust.

      • Honestly it's not a disgusting attitude, it might not be fully inline with your apparent attitude that every action is somehow equitable to rape and assault, but the reality of the situation we are seeing here is that a person get yelled at by an angry person whilst in their car. If police resources are actually as stretched as they appear to be recently in Melbourne then you could in fact be taking resources away from ACTUAL rap and assault victims by sending squad cars to every incident of someone yelling at someone else.

        The advice to get past the event is in fact a very sensible attitude to have, i would ask you what your alternative advice would be? To stay as angry as possible for as long as possible and proclaim to the world what a terrible injustice you feel has befallen you? Whilst being uncomfortable at the time, the actual turn of events amounts to a veritable speed bump in terms of the actual hardships most people will endure in their lifetime, so the fast you get on with doing the things you love and forgetting about someone yelling at you in your car the happier you're going to be. If you disagree I'd love to hear your well reasoned thoughts on the matter

  • +3

    What happened to turn the other cheek?
    “But I say to you who hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you.”
    Come on Ned, you know what Homer is like, move the Car along.

  • +37

    To be fair, in the US if you got threatened with violence and then proceeded to sit on the road for a further 10 minutes annoying more people, you probably would have gotten shot.

    In Australia with your doors locked windows up… maybe damage to your car if you still choose not to drive off as old methhead marvin chews your mirror off.

    The moral of the story?
    Doors locked, windows up, drive off.

    Edit: ahhhh
    Troll post anyway… shame.

  • -3

    2Y of lockdown and now high costs are turning people feral.
    https://twitter.com/search?q=Shanghai

    It's only a matter of time before it 🌀 out of control in other countries.

    Btw 🙏 seek professional help if you or anyone you know are showing signs of mental stress.

    • +3

      Road rage was a thing long before COVID and inflation. Sure stressful times can increase antisocial behaviour for some, but this is a pretty standard old fashioned road rage incident.

    • +5

      Jesus h Christ I had no idea it was so bad over there.

      Ccp army: * loading guns *surprise sudden drop in active case numbers reported over night. Everything is ok. We still number 1.

  • In the US, most adults can carry guns, so if there's a threat of violence then it's far more life threatening.

  • +30

    the SUV driver behind starts to flash his lights, honk roll down his windows and starts yelling for me to move.

    So why didn't you move and diffuse the situation, rather than waste police officers time…

      • plus I mis-understood that the police would show immediately

        How? With their teleportation devices? Even if they got there within 5 or 10 minutes, that's still 5 or 10 minutes for things to escalate.

        How could you misunderstand? They are usually very clear due to training and because of potential issues if they are not.

        I called up the police and told them the entire incident

        Did you call 000? If so, it's a Telstra call centre that answers, so that explains why nothing happened :p.

        If you called the local police station or 131 444 did the police say they would attend at all? What time frame did they give you?

        • +2

          If you called the local police station or 131 444

          That is for non-emergency matters such as noise complaints, etc.

          It sounds like OP dialed 000, and the responding officer triaged the call as non-emergency since there wasn't an actual assault.
          Even if someone went on a shooting rampage, I doubt the cops would show up in less than a minute.

    • +2

      Even from the OP's own description of the situation, let alone how the driver behind that he was blocking would have described it, the OP had plenty of time to move on. And instead sat there blocking a narrow road. I suspect I might have been as annoyed as the other driver at his stupidity, though I wouldn't have threatened personal violence.

      If you are so shaken by someone shouting at you, for apparently good reason, that you can't even move your car to somewhere where you can park and get over it, you just sit there with your doors locked blocking the road, you are too psychologically fragile to hold a drivers licence. I have to suspect the OP was doing it deliberately.

  • +35

    so I stayed in the same spot for about 10 minutes.

    Other drivers were pissed off at you for blocking the road, so you decided to continue blocking the road in hopes or in assumption that it would be safer to, rather than removing yourself that the situation ??

    • +8

      Sounds a bit selfish and 'entitled' don't you think?

  • +18

    You cant rely on them. I once had a strange man pound on my door demanding to be let in. I was a female alone. I called the police who didnt bother to show up for over 40 minutes

    • +7

      Sorry to hear that and yes thats real scary and from the responses of people here who are joking about your siutation and ONLY finding fault with me ….well what can I say///

      And to others I already accepted that my expectation for the police to be there immediately was wrong and I also accept the blocking the tiny road with maybe 2 cars behind was wrong as well…..but I am so surprised to see no one here seems to understand my side of the situation as well….having a health condition which causes panic attack in this kind of situation made me very uncomfortable to drive….but anyway thanks all for reading ..hope you don't go through this

      • +13

        People can be really judgemental online because they are safe behind their computer screen. This site is no different. Try not to take it to heart.

        Sorry to hear about your panic and anxiety. It's hard for people to understand if they've never experienced it. I can get really anxious also.

        • +6

          Well someone understood.. thanks and I understand what you are saying about the anonymity that these forums provide and I kind of expected it as well and one of the reasons I had never posted earlier.
          What has shocked me the apathy for the lady both from the police and the community here.

          • -1

            @IfGodWas1OfUs: What did you expect the community here to do or say?
            The ozbargain community has fewer dogs in your race than the police did.

            If nothing else you've learned some valuable lessons because of this.

            Being fragile sucks. The world wasn't made for fragile people. However, can I suggest you do some reading about unrealistic expectations?
            It will help you reframe what you expect from others & lead to much less disappointment on your part.

    • Who was it? What happened?

      • +3

        I believe it was a discharged patient from a mental hospital, which is not that close. He ended up leaving

        • +3

          I believe it was a discharged patient from a mental hospital

          Former neighbour?

    • -2

      They should have come a lot quicker since you were female. That's very unfair

      • +10

        Did you hear about the woman in Queensland with an AVO against someone, she heard someone breaking into the gate and called the police, they arrived 9 hours later to find the house burnt down and 2 dead people, Before that they had told her to stop bothering them so much about him and his threats. Turns out they went to macdonalds instead of responding to her desperate call

        • +6

          I’m sure the police then attended some press conference and promised they would do better next time. They do stuff nothing and the pattern repeats. Makes me sick.

        • +4

          That sounds like the police. Not just in Qld either. There are countless stories of how the police failed to be the police when the police were needed.
          I blame TV & movies.

          People need to stop watching shows & movies which glorify police. If they don't rate people will stop making them.
          Police departments have been known to contribute shitloads of money to fund cop shows to create the illusion that they're something more than bored wage slaves, disinterested office drones, backstabby Yes-Men & career office politicians.

          • +5

            @BinaryPirate: They'll catch you doing 65 km/h though!
            I'm a bit jaded myself.

      • +7

        Females deserve a quicker police response time? That's the definition of sexism my friend.

        • Sarcasm is hard to tell in text

          • +4

            @timthetoolman: Damn. I'm quite fond of such antics, but my sarcasm detector did not register. Sometimes it can help to use /s at the end to reduce ambiguity.

            • +1

              @stealthpaw: I thrive on the ambiguity. Like a walking betoota advocate comment section

      • A knife cutting through your arteries cares not about your gender.

        • i know, it's callous isn't it. adding insult to injury.

  • +11

    Police would be inundated if every incident of road rage was called in and the caller expected to them to be there within a few minutes with lights flashing.

    Put aside car crashes, actual violence, theft, speedsters (ie. actual offenders), crime, etc.

    OP, take the experience as a learning lesson on how to manage yourself. I'm 100% certain that you'll experience more incidents of someone yelling at you for whatever reason and/or more road rage whether your fault or not.

    • +11

      I mean road rage often leads to most of those "actual" crimes you listed…(car crashes, actual violence, theft, speeding, etc) so it would seem prudent to try to help/intervene before shit gets well out of hand.

      • +2

        I mean road rage often leads to most of those "actual" crimes you listed

        But it doesn't jump from zero to hundred like that. Screaming back at the person, getting out of the car, or doing whatever to add fuel to the situation (like continuing to annoy the person by blocking the road unnecessarily) can lead to actual crime being committed. You gotta try to defuse the problem, easiest and fastest way is to remove yourself from the situation.

        • +3

          Actually it can, particularly if the perpetrator has mental health or impulse control issues. The problem is you don’t know who is crazy; threatening violence, for being stuck behind a car for a couple of minutes, doesn’t speak of someone with good resilience.

          “He even came out of the car threatening me with violence.” Would you do this?

          • +1

            @try2bhelpful: Would continuing doing what ever is triggering that unstable person be a safe and smart thing to do?

            • +1

              @Ughhh: If the alternative was, potentially, running into the car in front of me then, probably. I think we’ve, already, established that continuing to sit in the road was a bad idea, however waiting to ensure the car that was parking wasn’t going to swing out again was valid. If everyone was a bit more patient we would see a lot less accidents and a lot less violent attacks. I, certainly, say terrible things about other people’s driving but I do it in the privacy of my car and, let’s face it, a fair amount of the time it is because I couldn’t see everything that was going on.

              • @try2bhelpful: Perhaps op could clarify whether the parking car in front was
                A) still parking during the 10mins waiting for cops, or
                B) the car had completed parking and op wanted to sit still while waiting for cops.

                You can't change or expect everysone to behave the same. You also need to keep in mind that others may misinterprete your actions as rude or offensive.

                • @Ughhh: It is about when the guy behind got out of the car and started making threatening comments. I wasn't there, so the OP is interpreting their own experience, but I do get, very, tired of people being told they are misinterpreting what has been said to them. Issues with traffic rarely start well with someone gets out of the car and approaches the driver. I suspect he wasn't exchanging pleasantries about the weather. Perhaps it is on the driver, who got out of the car, to ensure there language isn't interpreted as being rude or offensive, or, more importantly, not threatening.

                  I went to Upfront, last night, and one of the lady comedians had a very interesting point. "Men complain that women don't take into account men's mental health, and I can tell you it isn't true. I spend a fair bit of an evening out wondering if some bloke is going to go mental enough to hit me". Imagine if that was your life - because for way too many women it is ours. Always sensitive to not doing, or saying, the wrong thing because some random guy, or even your partner, might not like it. Society is way too willing to forgive people who are aggressive and threaten violence. I've stood on the side of a street screaming at a bunch of guys, who were beating up another guy, that I was calling the cops. This sort of thing makes you a tad sensitive to the threat of violence.

                  I can expect people to not act in a threatening and aggressive manner. Funnily enough I hold people to that level. It is an absolute shame that other people are willing to excuse this behaviour as "misinterpretation". Seriously?

          • -2

            @try2bhelpful: If some (profanity) was blocking the road, then decided to sit there for 10 minutes when I beeped them, which is almost certainly what actually happened here, I'd be tempted. Let's be honest :D

            • +1

              @[Deactivated]: Tempted, perhaps? Actually get out and do it, absolutely not. However, there is nothing to indicate that the OP was sitting there for ten minutes before the guy got out and was being abusive. Me, I would’ve waited until the car that was parking tidied up before getting testy against the guy in front of me. I’ve certainly seen people pull back out again, into traffic, because they can’t swing it around. Do I think sitting there afterwards for so long was a good idea, maybe not? But getting verbally abusive is, certainly, not.

              • -2

                @try2bhelpful: I mean, the OP is clearly lying.

                10:1 he got honked and decided to throw a tantrum, then came here massaging the truth to try and gain sympathy.

                • +2

                  @[Deactivated]: All we can do is comment on what we’ve been told. Have we seen road rage cases that involved people being attacked? Absolutely. Would I be concerned if someone honked me, continually, when I wouldn’t overtake someone backing into a car park spot, absolutely. Would I be terrified if they got out and started to threaten me, absof’inglutely. The bigger question is why we seem to have a bunch of people who think holding them up, even for a few minutes, allows them to be over the top aggressive. Since when did we get from a quick honk, a sigh and mumbling “tosser” to ourselves turn into aggressively honking the horn and, then, getting out and threatening someone? All that is happening is the poor person, in front, is getting more flustered and will, probably, delay things further. Back off, give people room and they, generally, sort themselves out.

                  • @try2bhelpful: When they chose to sit there for 10 minutes, I'd say.

                    • +1

                      @[Deactivated]: Reading the OPs description the 10 minutes was after the guy got aggressive.

                      • -1

                        @try2bhelpful: Okay, I think I've made it clear I don't believe them on that point. Enjoy your day.

                        • +1

                          @[Deactivated]: Fair enough. Me, I work on the basis I wasn’t there. Frankly I find it hard to believe anyone would sit in the middle of the road, for ten minutes, waiting for someone to parallel park; unless they were scared from being harassed. Particularly if the person parking has, actually, finished. Enjoy your day as well.

                        • +1

                          @[Deactivated]: Yeah, 10 minutes is super long just sitting in a car, most people get frustrated waiting a minute or two for a traffic light…plus when under duress it might be hard to remember the exact time.

    • +1

      I think they can charge you for wasting police time. So, if someone trying to call them meaning they feel the need for it.

  • +8

    You should be the one sitting in a police station made to think about your actions for continuing to block the road for another 30 minutes expecting your own personal police officer to attend at your whim.

    • +3

      Yeah, I wanted to feel bad for the victim here (and I think road ragers need to be taught a harsh lesson USA style) but continuing to block the road for no reason is making it hard.

  • +3

    Another newbee very first post rant.

    • +1

      Probably first time driving too

      Just because someone else on the road is an a-hole, doesn't mean you have to be too.

  • What type of car do you drive?

      • Yep I bet OP is to blame

  • +1

    Like similar post, it seems like we maybe missing the big picture with this incident…

    Need a mspaint diagram… difficult to provide objectivity, as post content is more leaning on appeal to emotion.

    • +2

      I think my main concern was the behaviour, if for a moment lets assume I was on the wrong, so are you saying the behaviour of the other party is justified

  • +19

    The cops don't give a shit. The jackass in the car honking and threatening you should be kicked off the edge of a cliff. But i'm sure he will carry on life as normal, being a egotistic psychopath and will abuse many, many more people before his time on this earth is over.
    You can't do much about these people, just try to avoid them at all costs.

    • -2

      The jackass in the car honking and threatening you should be kicked off the edge of a cliff.

      What a disgusting attitude. What if OP was just sitting there blocking the road while the guy behind was trying to get his heavily pregnant wife to the hospital?

      /s

      • +8

        The car was full of very large guys who ended up parking in front of the bar, I have pictures of them in the car giggling a and making fun ( as I wanted to record the plate number/color of the car which the police wanted to know) but surely won't post it and yes I get kicks out of blocking roads , getting bullied and calling cops….all for my family to witness ..you must be special

        • -1

          "Getting bullied". Christ. Grow up. I'm a saint but if you sat there for 10 minutes blocking the road after being incapable of manoeuvring around a parking vehicle I'd be tempted to remove your block too, I'd reckon.

    • +2

      I agree I think just need to suck it up

  • +5

    People don't realize that the police are a reactionary force. Unless your a VIP, they only get involved after something happens.

    In this case, all that happened was somebody yelled at you. No one has time to care about that.

    Now, had the man dragged you out of the car and beaten you with a crowbar, then the police would get involved. But it would still take some time

    • +4

      I called the cops when I got out of his car to make threats …how was I to know if he is carrying a weapon or what his intentions are..so I called the cops….
      next will wait to call till it comes to that :) just kidding

      • +13

        I called the cops when I got out of his car to make threats

        Plot twist 🍿

        • -2

          "how was I to know if he is carrying a weapon or what his intentions are..so I called the cops…."

          I think you are watching too many US movies.

        • -2

          Lol! Gold!

        • after a few moments of passion - that went wrong …

  • +6

    Sounds like this one way street has major traffic issue of drivers doubleparking beside parked cars in the attempt to wait for those other parked car drivers to return to their car and leave those parking spots.

    So basically, hold up a one way road for the traffic behind you just so you get a chance to park at a parking spot when it is vacated whenever that may be, 1 minute or 30 minutes from now, without angst of cars behind you trying to get through?

    My suggestion to you my friend, park your car away from that spot in a less congested road, and WALK the way, it's healthy for you and your family.

    Unless you're morbidly obese and cannot walk, of course.

    • You nailed it my friend , the area I went to a major dining precinct with a lot of restaurants and people. And yes 99.9% times I have been in this area I park further away to not only park easy but we enjoy the walk through precinct. This one time we decided to drive around to select a restaurant where we wanted to eat. I guess it was destined to happen. In fact when I finally I parked in the less busy area I realised the person I had the altercation with was parked on the other side of the road, so for those asking me to try diffuse the situation, I again pulled out from there and parked another 1 km away to just avoid running into this person.

      Thanks for the note though you seem one of the few sane voice with an actual solution to avoid such an event. Appreciate it.

      • +1

        No no, go back to the part where you blocked traffic waiting for the police like that was reasonable, calm, and measured.

        Stop trying to make yourself out to be Mother Teresa here, you were and equally massive dick.

  • FFS

  • In a global survey of road rage, Australia ranked ninth. Rage and anger will get you nowhere. Know your limits, control yourself and don’t even give furious drivers a chance to harass you.

    Avoid confrontation at all costs. Road rage anywhere for that matter, never ends well.

  • Seems like the ambulance equivalent of burning your finger on the stove.

Login or Join to leave a comment