nbn Providers That Use Vocus?

Hi Bargainers,

I'm looking for nbn providers that use Vocus network. I know dodo and mate use Vocus, any other nbn providers?

Cheers

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    From Wikipedia these are their brands (some are NZ based) - you can go and see if they are NBN providers.

    2Talk
    Dodo
    Commander
    Engin
    Flip
    iPrimus
    Orcon
    Slingshot
    Switch Utilities
    Stuff Fibre
    Vocus Communications
    Maxnet
    

    Also here's a Whirlpool thread of the same question.

    Another similar topic

    • Cheers mate

      • No worries, I know Vocus doesn't have a good reputation in general, but I'm with More Telecom who use Vocus at the moment with this deal and it's been fine.

        I haven't seen much difference versus the more popular providers around here (Aussie Broadband, Superloop, Launtel etc) as I always cycle between them for the 12-month discounted rates, but then again I'm not a power user so YMMV.

  • +5

    …but why would you use a Vocus reseller? Generally the worst NBN service there is.

  • Tangerine

  • I'm looking for nbn providers that use Vocus network

    I might be missing something here, but if they're an nbn provider wouldn't they use using the nbn network?

    Vocus has some corporate and wholesale stuff, but if you buy an nbn plan you'd be using the same nbn network as everyone else.

    • Bandwidth. Each ISP is allocated a certain amount of bandwidth, and if they hit their limit / exceed it, then obviously they'd have to limit download speeds, especially during peak periods.

      Given Vocus' ultra-competitive pricing at the cost of service, I'd stay away from any ISP that resells Vocus. I was with MATE for a period of time and immediately found that they prioritise traffic when a speed test on speedtest.net is conducted - tests on Google / Fast.com showed peak speeds of 10-15% of advertised.

    • +2

      NBN is the "last-mile" network. It's the connection from your house to the NBN POI (Point of Interconnect - basically what you used to call the Telephone Exchange). From there it's on your RSP's network (RSP = Retail Service Provider - what you used to call ISP: Internet Service Provider) until it needs to transit someone else's network.

      Because of NBN, you aren't limited to a small set of RSPs due to them not having cables on the street you're on; you may be limited due to RSPs not having hardware in a POI (or not being willing to pay another RSP for a connection there), but this is far less common than RSPs not having cables/ports on a street. It's basically the same problem, but since it's moved upstream to the exchange the barriers to entry are significantly less (you don't need to run your own cables or pay Telstra/Optus for cable access: everyone pays NBN Co, and they all pay the same price). Hell, you could start your own ISP if you wanted to. Some gear in your local exchange, negotiate upstream connections (i.e. Telstra Wholesale), pay NBN Co and BAM: you're an ISP now).

      Case in point - when I moved house a while back, I couldn't get (iiNet) ADSL2+, presumably due to telephony in my area being via a RIM and Telstra either didn't have a spare or was unwilling to provide access to the requisite DSLAM in the RIM. Got ADSL1 (iiNet "Off-net": i.e. they were paying Telstra for the connection) and it was terrible; ended up going (pre-NBN) Fixed Wireless (Vivid Wireless) until I eventually moved to NBN (FTTC). On NBN, I can have my pick of RSP: not sure who provides access on my POI, but I assume it's most since I'm in a capital city.

      Some RSPs have their own network around Australia, connecting all the NBN POIs, some pay to use another company's network: that "other company" could be another RSP or could be a higher tier provider (someone who sells internet network access to RSPs, not to businesses/consumers; some RSPs are both: sell to businesses/consumers and to other RSPs). Some RSPs also have their own international connections, which would potentially see you get better bandwidth and ping times to those locations (i.e. Vocus' Darwin-Jakarta-Singapore cable (DSJC) mentioned by OP)

      So whilst RSP won't affect your NBN connection (FTTH/B/C/N, Fixed Wireless, etc); but it will affect your experience: ping, available speed/bandwidth/CVC, QoS (prioritisation/capping), data cap, other inclusions/exclusions…

      Further reading:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Broadband_Network#Ret…
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_service_provider

      • Thanks, I apparently had the totally wrong idea on what NBN was, thinking it was the whole network and not just last mile. Appreciate the good explanation!

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    Froggy

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