Hey guys,
I have mild pancreatis and a gastric problem, I got out of the hospital a bit early because they needed beds.
I should be fine, but to deal with this the surgeon says I should eat low fat, alkaline foods. I can't eat much due to my condition, it basically hurts like hell if I eat anything more than small portions. I also can't really spend much time preparing due to the pain.
Anyway, as the title says, please suggest some ideas for some easy, low fat, alkaline foods?
Thanks :)
and your qualification to validate your views on food?
Suggest to him some low fat and alkaline foods. Don't worry about my qualifications. I am an uneducated fool.
Not sure why you're acting as a know-it-all saviour from a world of conspiracies, but most fruits and vegetables, soybeans, tofu, potatoes and some nuts, seeds, and legumes are alkaline foods i.e. they have a higher pH than dairy, meat, eggs, alcohol etc and less likely to cause stomach upsets.
@Hybroid: I was asking him if, was he in that shit already by eating them?
Not sure why you're acting as a know-it-all saviour from a world of conspiracies
Who am I to save the world. I ain't BIllgates.
@[Deactivated]: You said
You would have been in that shit (pancreatitis and gastric) by eating those low fat foods in the first place.
and followed up with
Don't worry about my qualifications. I am an uneducated fool.
So OP has been advised by a doctor to eat low fat, alkaline foods due to pancreatis and gastric issues; and you're claiming that eating low fat, alkaline foods can cause said conditions, but when asked to validate your opinion get defensive and say that you're uneducated?
Contrary to your comment I'm replying to, you weren't asking if OP got in this situation from that food: you were making a statement that the advice OP was given is wrong.
You then seem to not know anything about "alkaline" food?
And WTF is alkaline foods anyway
As a fellow "uneducated fool", I would say "alkaline" foods are those that are not acidic, as Hybroid has pointed out in regards to pH. Also makes sense to me since acidic foods (i.e. citrus, soft drinks) can upset my stomach at times.
@Chandler: What do you think about advising low-fat foods? Can anyone explain the science behind that advice?
Listen to my science. If you eat low-fat foods, you are left with either carbs or protein. Both spike Insulin. When Insulin spikes in the body it recovers slowly.
You would have been in that shit (pancreatitis and gastric) by eating those low-fat foods in the first place
I know that because I had those issues and fixed them by changing to a high-fat diet. I know nobody cares about my anecdotal evidence. Everyone trusts medical professionals who don't have any nutritional background. Even nutritionist advice is flawed because of the nature of scientific studies. Nobody can conduct a proper long term nutritional study avoiding all the variables. Because no one has the interest or money to make people's lives better. Most of the expensive studies are conducted by drug companies where that can manipulate data or are sponsored by particular industries to suit their narrative. I told this many times, but health and nutrition are a fraud industry. Which depends on keeping people sick. They don't have an incentive to make people's health better.
What do you think about advising low-fat foods? Can anyone explain the science behind that advice?
I can't, but again OP was advised by someone with considerable knowledge in the area. Personally I'd suggest OP discuss their needs with a dietician, especially if they have any doubts, since a dietician should be more knowledgable in the area.
I know that because I had those issues and fixed them by changing to a high-fat diet. I know nobody cares about my anecdotal evidence.
Correct - anecdotal evidence. Your success with a high-fat diet ≠ OP's success.
Everyone trusts medical professionals who don't have any nutritional background.
Don't know OP's surgeon's background, but presumably gatrointestinal so lots of knowledge in regards to those systems, would likely have picked some tangential knowledge in regards to food/diet, especially when diagnosing and following up; may have done some reading/research/etc in that area to further it.
So assuming the above is accurate/close, we have that vs… you, with your anecdotal evidence, telling people not to listen to the "expert".
Even nutritionist advice is flawed because of the nature of scientific studies.
And yet you expect people to follow your advice driven from… anecdotal evidence?
Nobody can conduct a proper long term nutritional study avoiding all the variables.
No. That's why most studies list their controls, known issues, potential errors, etc. The human body is a very complicated machine. But we have studies, studies show trends, and those trends imply cause/effect. Sure, human sciences may not nail it every time or in every case, but they usually have good reason to suggest A causes B.
Again, we have (potentially flawed) studies, or… anecdotal evidence?
Most of the expensive studies are conducted by drug companies where that can manipulate data or are sponsored by particular industries to suit their narrative. I told this many times, but health and nutrition are a fraud industry. Which depends on keeping people sick. They don't have an incentive to make people's health better.
There it is. "Drug companies are out to get us!" "The whole medical industry wants to keep you sick!"
Whilst I can appreciate where this opinion comes from… really? Sure, companies are out to make a buck. But you're saying everyone is in on it? The staff at the drug company are knowingly getting in the ears of pracitcing professionals and getting them in on the gravy train? Said practicing professionals are knowingly participating? And absolutely no-one has broken silence on this absolutely massive conspiracy?
Do you know how many people are employed in health, just in Australia? Lots. Lotsa people employed in health here in Australia. Many peoples. All of the crooks, aparently…
Yes please listen to this guys second-hand YouTube medical advice over your surgeon's.
I didn't give any advice. You are giving (to listen to me)
You are giving (to listen to me)
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
I didn't give any advice.
Your advice was that the licensed professional who gave OP advice already is wrong, it's voodoo, and the suggested course of action likely caused their condition in the first place.
How can your comment not be advice by @Cheaplikethebird's comment is?
I'm guessing the doctor said not to eat highly acidic foods as it will further upset their stomach potentially, e.g. it's typically recommended when people have gastritis - I don't know what OP has but low fat diets are recommended for number of conditions with good effect.
but low fat diets are recommended for number of conditions with good effect.
Reasons and science?
Yes, now you're getting it.
Not YouTube and conspiracies.
Reason and science.
@GrueHunter: I always follow science and reason, not "science" what you think it is. Actual biochemistry and how the body process certain macros. The funny thing is people who accuse me of YouTube are the ones who reference them as proof.
@[Deactivated]: Pretty sure most people in this thread disagreeing with you are merely referencing the advice OP got from their licensed medical professional, who studied medicine and likely reads a lot of studies and attends many conferences in their field; not YouTube.
Your reason and science, meanwhile, is…?
Yes I have gastritis :(
Oh no! That’s super uncomfortable! I hope you get better soon.
I had it before due to going a bit hard on the aspirins for migraines - improved significantly once I got on the proton pump inhibitor medication and stomach lining had a chance to recover and haven’t had issues since, I still use aspirin every now and then (just not daily). Lots of different causes though so hopefully you also have a good recovery.
Thanks for telling us everything we need to know about you by capitalising "media" in the middle of a sentence
What is the word for the person who takes the useless part in a statement and highlights it?
Low alkaline foods ay
I thought you must have mistyped airline snacks by mistake.
I was wrong.
Vinegar is low fat and low alkaline.
Probably best to to see a qualified dietician (not a 'nutritionist') who has experience with different medical conditions. You can get a rebate through medicare if you set up a chronic disease management plan with your GP (who is probably worth checking in with if you've just come out of hospital). I'm not sure exactly what your issue is (hence best to get qualified advice) but:
Here's a specific cook book for pancreatic disease
https://lsc-pagepro.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/?m=…
and some general info
https://pancreasfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/NP…
Are alkaline batteries low fat?
Likely. Probably not good for you but.
Marshmallows are 100% fat free, btw.
Look up low FODMAP online. Steer clear of alliums (onion garlic family), stone fruits, anything high sugar (including apples and banana).
For snacks, I enjoy berries (raspberries, blueberries and strawberries are good, blackberries are a one or two max).
Seeds and nuts are fine, pepito, sunflower etc. Popcorn of course, Walkers Shortbread (cheapest at Woolies), rice crackers, water biscuits, olives, sundried tomatoes, feta cheese etc.
I think you should try some fresh fruits , vegetable and juices that can make your health better.
Systematically wrong advice is given by doctors, Dieticians and the Media. And WTF is alkaline foods anyway. There are only two types of food. Unhealthy and Healthy. Voodoo coming from medical professionals? is not new.
You would have been in that shit (pancreatitis and gastric) by eating those low fat foods in the first place.