Aboriginal flag to fly permanently from Sydney Harbour Bridge by end of the year
I wonder how much it costs to put a pole on the Sydney Harbour Bridge. $25 million sounds outrageous. Can someone with knowledge on construction throw some light on this?
Really interested to know
Not surprised. My friend used to sell $20 a piece blank CDs to those government agencies. Easy money.
If they spend the 25 million on bitcoin/ethereum today, while it's low, they could get 100m back in a year, return the 25 that was borrowed, build the flag and have 50 in profit.
…or when it comes time to pay, they could tell the company the cheque is in the mail but not actually send it, then after a few months of waiting for the mail the government can send the cheque, but without a signature….
$20 and $24,999,980 for their mates.
12M to pay the Chinese who will build it
12M to pay the politician who has the idea
1M to actually (profanity) do it
Next they'll add the LGBTQ+ flag and a Greta Thunberg flag, may as well add a Morbius flag while you're at it for a few Morbillion dollars.
$25m, buys alot of food for struggling families, when the cost of living as increased significantly recently.
For the average punter this kind of spend is hard to comprehend
It makes me so angry how the government constantly wastes the public's money. Another example is Albo giving the French government 830 million of our money, money that could have helped a lot of people struggling with inflation.
I'm pretty sure it was the libs who offshored sub building to the French for about $90bn (instead of doing it locally), and then changed their minds midway when the US offered Nuclear subs. Albo is just paying the exit fees (Plus I'm pretty peeved about the tens of billions already given to the French for basically…. nothing in return?).
https://theconversation.com/why-the-australia-france-submari…
Much like how they changed their minds on Rudd's $90bn FTTH NBN halfway and gimped it to FTTN. I could forgive them if they didn't 'give back' the copper network back to Telstra that we paid (I think) $10bn for?
Do people realise how much $25m is?
Its enough to sustain 5 average Australians comfortably for their entire lives. Groceries, housing, food, bills etc…all of it.
Imagine that - 5 "free" lives vs 1 flagpole
Which 5 Australians do you think should be picked?
Why, instead of fully-sustaining 5 lucky people, don't you kick-start the life of 25 people with one million dollars each? Why only the 5 you have selected?
Sorry I meant more along the lines of 5 families
$125k per annum household salary for 40 years
I'm not suggesting we should pick 5 families. But just to put into context how ridiculous it is $25m on a metal pole + cloth, when the above is the alternative
With the rising cost of lettuce my rough calculation is 1 average Australian.
I think this is in response to Turkey who has just placed a monument to poise events in history.
Overall the flag is going to be cheapest of things to come!
How much did it cost to install the NSW and AUS flags on the Bridge?
Notwithstanding inflation.
Maybe a skerrick of PC padding on this one?
Can’t they just fly 3 flags on each pole? One under another?
Which one goes on top? We'd never see an end to the arguments.
Grant each party $1m each and tell them it’s a 10 year plan to determine the order. Still saved NSW $17m in the end.
For $25,000,000 they can pay someone $1,000,000 a year to sit on the top of the bridge holding a flag. That's better than a flag pole.
I like it! Would be some enthusiastic waving for that kind of cash.
I can see Xi clapping his hands as slow as he expresses joy. Once he takes Taiwan he can offload them natives there to what he thinks is an empty island.
Looks like the costing details are revealed:
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2022/06/21/costings-for-install…
Thanks for sharing. What a joke. Isn’t government demoting the use of Tik tok. Also lot of research/ paperwork expenses. Hilarious. Sorry but looks fake to me.
whoosh 😂
Haha perfect 😂
most goes to Tick Tok in China !!!
And then the NSW government has the cheek to argue for more WA gst revenue. What could they waste it on next???
Thank goodness the Stage 3 tax cuts are coming, government needs to be starved of funds to minimise this kind of waste. The less money they get, the more careful they'll have to be with what they've got.
Dominic Perrottet is building the pole that’s why it’s bladdy expensive!
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/101171376
The $25 million price tag includes the installation of a new pole, from which the Aboriginal flag will fly, and the refurbishment of the two existing poles.
These works must be done in a way that ensures that the structure and heritage fabric are maintained
The scope also involves relocation of the aircraft beacon to provide space for the third flagpole.
The project will be paid for by using money from a $91.1 million fund for First Nations culture included in yesterday's budget.
In conclusion. They should have airtasked it..
I really don't care what flag they put on but at cost of 25 million tax dollar, GTFO.
use one side aust flag the other side aboriginal
actual funding given to aboriginals to help with health etc
$1
to give a false display/impression to the world we are respecting and supporting our indigenous ppl
$25million
the foregin aid given to sri lanka's finanical crisis
$50million
the look on an aboriginal person realising it would be paid for by using money from a $91.1 million fund for First Nations culture intended to help them
priceless (sadly)
at that insane price why not make it more, clearly it doesn't matter? Just make it 100 million.
For my real opinion, it's a disservice to everyone, especially indigenous people to have this massive quote and then allow sky news to blow it up into a huge debate.
NSW Could have easily just decided to swap out the NSW flag, and if anyone gets offended by that tell them to move to tasmania.
In 5 yrs: $100million royal commission into the 2022 misappropriation of funds
i'll say this.
I worked in 1 of sydney's tallest buildings, and we had a project where we had to install a pole/tower with some equipment to the top of the building. What i do know is the project's budget blew out significantly, it cost us so much more than we expected, and this was just recently. Some additional things we hadn't expected:
- constantly growing engineering fees (both for designing, and for getting our stuff tested)
- having to follow an ever growing list of requirements….i remember 1 of those requirements was that it had to be able to survive a cyclone during a blizzard, there were actual metrics for this but i can't remember them. Essentially it had to survive metrics that the building itself probably wouldn't survive….
- Then there were growing requirements for servicability/ongoing use, as well as getting building approval.
- I believe we even had an ornithologists involved to make sure this work would not impact any bird life….it was actually ridiculous.
- In addition to this every design we proposed had to have a physical prototype made. that was also wind tested in a wind test simulator chamber.
- Then ontop of that the approval process was ridiculous, we had to get so many parties involved because everybody wanted their 2c worth. Building owner, building corps, CASA, aus gov, even parties like the ACMA wanted involvement….
The annoying part about this was that building already had another equipment pole/tower on top of it, so we weren't doing anything out of the ordinary.
So to the people responding to the bridge quote saying "Yeah nah it shouldn't cost any more than a few grand" are truly dreaming
This all being said, the job we did costed NO WHERE NEAR 25 mil….but it wouldn't surprise if the job was still over 2 mil
"Yeah nah it shouldn't cost any more than a few grand" are truly dreaming
Tradies don't get out of bed for $1k a day for labor. You need 4 people to hold each corner (of the flag) that is $4k just in labor. Then there is all the overheads and the government premium. Won't get people to the coffee station at the base of the bridge for less than $10k I'd guess. $20k by the time the first market hits the whiteboard to start writing the question.
i do agree. With the cost of labour and all the red tape involved, people really underestimate how much it costs to get something done here in Aus.
that being said, it wouldn't cost 25 mil for the job
Why have any flags there in the first place? Remove all flags.
If they can reduce the cost the spare money could go to Indigenous schools, housing, education. The cost of working out the traditional name of the Sydney Harbour Bridge? $0.00. PS: The traditional name is "The Sydney Harbour Bridge"
A bloody Kangaroo on chair in Melbourne was 2million$. Based on that, a pole on Sydney Harbour Bridge for 25mil is fair in their world but its just stupid. Just put AU and Aboriginal flag that’s it. Am sure there’s plenty more better ways to spend that money but no.
If it's that easy, then several companies would have come out and said they tendered for less
Unless there's collusion going on that we don't know about.
'Okay guys, you get this bid, we'll get the next one. Everyone's richer all around'
Just because it's illegal doesn't mean it can't happen.
Huge Assumption.
Like mentioned above, it's about $650,000.
The $25M was likely an intentional distraction to take focus from the NY trade commissioner role. Made to suck up the media cycle.
Again, we don't know the actual specifics. If they have to close the bridge for cranes etc, i can see it getting very expensive.
https://xyz.net.au/2022/06/sydney-harbour-bridge-to-get-one-…
A company has revealed its quote it sent to the NSW government when it reached out to determine the cost to erect the Aboriginal flag onto Sydney’s iconic Harbour Bridge.
Premier Dominic Perrottet announced over the weekend a staggering $25 million will be put aside in the state budget on Tuesday for the project.
But taxpayers and the Opposition were left fuming after they heard about the price tag and believe it could be completed at a cheaper cost.
Poseidon Poles and Flags told The Daily Telegraph it had sent the government a much lower figure than the one Mr Perrottet announced to the public.
The Sydney Northern Beaches-based company said it would cost less than $650,000 to replace the three poles on the world-famous landmark.
It also estimated the cost to replace each pole would be between $175,000 to $200,000.
Why do we even need an Aboriginal flag there in the first place - we're all Australians - and thats the only flag we should be under. This is clearly just pandering to identity politics and does nothing except to generate guilt and resentment, and further divisions in society
Abo flag in NSW flag out
Just made the news
Most of the cost was probably in a Mckinsey engagement to put together a strategy paper