Help Deciding between Cars - New Ford Escape or Second Hand BMW X2

I know this is a bit subjective but I am in two minds about what I should do and just looking for some opinions. I have a 2013 Ford Kuga that has some issues. I have to pick between getting:

2022 Ford Escape AWD ST Line which should be in Australia in about two weeks. It has a five year warranty and capped services.

2018 BMW X2 xdrive20d M. Has a Full service history and buying it from BMW but there is no warranty or service plan on it. They do offer an aftermarket warranty. This is through Presidian and it will be on the plan where it is market related so there is no cap if they have to fix something. It acts like a BMW warranty (have been told this, not sure how true this is but you take your car to BMW and they still sort it out.) They also offer a bolt on servicing package. But of course these are all addons. The warranty is $3k for five 5years and about the same for the service plan

So basically the Ford and BMW (with extended warranty) works out to the same price. Car wise, the BMW feels more solid, little smaller and drivers a bit harder and sportier. The escape drives softer and steering wheel actually feels nicer but the rest does feel a bit cheaper. And I have no idea how good this Presidian warranty is.

Comments

  • +2

    Ford comes with working indicators, but doesn't have an ENVY badge, has a 5y warranty and capped services. BMW has no warranty or service plan on it.

  • Have watched a few reviews of the escape st line and it looks pretty great.

    Engine is an updated version used in the Focus ST. Decent sized boot and car like handling.

    • +1

      The car is nice, drives nice but it does feel cheap.

      • Try Vignale. with a moon roof.

  • +3

    If you’re trying to over compensate for something get the BMW

  • +1

    When standing near earshot of the 2013 Ford Kuga say out loud "I'm thinking of buying a new car". The Kuga will roar back into life.

    • Lol

  • +4

    If you have a high maintenance budget after buying the car, I'd go the BMW for the interior feel. But if servicing and parts costs are going to be an issue, avoid the BMW.

    • That's something everyone assumes, but I replaced the brake rotors and pads on my X1 for $500. If you're not afraid to do a little maintenance yourself, prices for parts are comparable.

      • The price of the genuine parts seem to be quite different. Especially when that part isn't designed to be a consumable.

        I used to do the maintenance stuff myself but living in an apartment these days, there's just no space to do anything.

  • +3

    Have you cross-shopped anything else? they're two very different choices with respect to expected costs (depreciation / servicing / repairs)

    Personally, I'd only get the BMW if I was getting it with the extended factory warranty.

    • They don't provide factory extended warranties :(

      • +1

        ah, that's a shame. Read the PDS of any 3rd party warranty very carefully. I've had a good experience with a 3rd party extended factory warranty but they're not all the same

  • +1

    Neither, need poll for better options.

  • +1

    Strange cross shop

    Having test drove a ford escape it does have a heap of go, but it's interior quality is lower than other similar priced small sized SUV, found the seats not that comfortable…. But the people buying this are buying it purely as it's the 'hottest' small SUV in it's comparative segment for the price, and don't care about the drop in inferior quality for the trade off.

    Personally wouldn't buy either (wife ended up in a seltos gt line when we were looking at vehicles in that segment)

    • I had a look at a few cars. Also the Kia sportage and the GT line is nice but only stock in months. I didn't test drive this and heard bad things about all the touch screen stuff

      • I lucked on a zero wait for the seltos, but yes, if not waiting a long period for a new vehicle is an issue then your choices are severely limited.

  • -2

    Only 2 types of people that drive a BMW. Those that don't know to drive and the others a thief in a short term stunt car.

  • Redbook/Carsales classify those in different categories, the ford being a medium suv and the bmw small. It there a reason for comparing different sizes? It doesn’t quite seem a fair comparison.

    • Mostly because I want a sedan as I enjoy a sporty car. My previous car was a Merc C350 but that said there was no issue about speed limit being around 80 most of the time haha. Normal speed was 140 to 160.

      But i do have 2 kids so when its family trips sedans aren't as comfortable as a suv. So i was thinking maybe the x2 would be a good fit.

      • X2 is a bit small with 2 kids. I have an x3 and feel it’s a bit small for trips.

        Have you tested the X2 with the child seats and your gear?

  • I'd take a BMW under warranty.

    I don't like Ford but apparently my choice is because I have a small penis and don't know how to drive. 😏

    I do think that you can add options and create a poll. I'd start with VW Tiguan and Honda CRV as options.

    • +1

      Tiguans are terrible IMO. Test drove one last year and they're just so cheaply appointed compared to everything else even at the higher spec trims.

      • +3

        I've had two Tiguans and I loved them. Agree that they might not be as competitive these days.

        It's good to have options and people choosing different cars.

    • +2

      Just bringing some Finnish evidence to the "BMW drivers are psychopaths" discussion:

      https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/good-society/fast-and-furiou…

      "The answers were unambiguous: self-centred men who are argumentative, stubborn, disagreeable and unempathetic are much more likely to own a high-status car such as an Audi, BMW or Mercedes.

      “These personality traits explain the desire to own high-status products, and the same traits also explain why such people break traffic regulations more frequently than others,” says Lönnqvist.

      He points out that money is, of course, necessary to buy high-status products, which is why rich people are more likely to drive high-status cars."

      And then…

      "One of the more unexpected results was that another personality type is also drawn to high-status cars: the conscientious. People with this type of personality are, as a rule, respectable, ambitious, reliable and well-organised. They take care of themselves and their health and often perform well at work.

      “The link is presumably explained by the importance they attach to high quality. All makes of car have a specific image, and by driving a reliable car they are sending out the message that they themselves are reliable,” Lönnqvist explains."

      Unsure if the profile is the same in Australia, but it's an interesting analysis.

    • Interesting that you assumed genitalia when I was referring to over compensating for a lack of personality…

  • +1

    What advantages does this motor car have over say, a train? … which I could also afford

    • +1

      Even the BMW will might be more reliable than Melbournes train network…

    • +1

      I prefer driving

    • "The Victorian Government is investing $986 million in 25 new X’Trapolis 2.0 trains and supporting infrastructure to modernise the Victorian train fleet."

      I couldn't afford a train… 986M/25 is roughly 40M each… 😊

      Seriously, unless you live in Europe, you can't easily travel to destinations without a car. I believe OP has already considered, and eliminated, this option. Even if you live in Melbourne or Sydney (not sure about the other cities), train/tram can work for the daily basic commuting to/from work but not to enjoy other surrounding areas.

      • For me its more the fact thwt i didn't grow up using trains. I have always had to drive my car to everywhere and i just like it. Sure there are times the train isn't bad but its not my preferred method of transport. And I need a car anywhay with 2 kids i am not going to struggle having to load things etc.

    • +1

      So, you have a family of 5 and you need to go to colesworth or aldi to do a weekly food shop

      your move

  • What would the answer be, in say nine years from now - Second hand 2022 Ford Escape v Third hand 2018 BMW X2.

  • +11

    The reason you are not looking at a 2022 BMW should be the same reason you should not be purchasing a second hand 2018 out of warranty one.

    • +2

      Lol. Thread closed.

  • -1

    You might also want to consider this report if you don't want to die in a car crash.

  • +1

    No chance I’d go for a used BMW over a new car with warranty. Even with the ‘special’ warranty they offer it’ll likely exclude a bunch of stuff and not really be an effective warranty.

  • +1

    BMW will break down a hundred times and cost you thousands to fix and service (indicators optional extra)

    Ford will run until it falls a part and cost you pennies to fix or service (indicators come as factory standard)

  • buying it from BMW but there is no warranty

    If you are buying from a dealer , you will get a 3 month / 5000km warranty.
    https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/cars/buying-a-used-car/warra…

    • Yea they do provide that but that is useless. Honestly don't understand why bmw is only 3y warranty in Aus and why they don't extend bmw factory warranties

      • I’ve had 3 bmw’s now. Yes, the warranty is only 3 years but I have had numerous things fixed over the two previous cars for things that occurred outside of warranty. If you get your car serviced by BMW they usually are willing to help out for issues outside of warranty.

        The biggest claim I had was nearly $3000 for new brake disks and some plates that went behind to keep rocks out of the disks plus labour.

  • +1

    Camry.

  • +1

    Euro cars are best left to those who trade in and buy a car every 3 years, don't buy a second hand one! they will more likely be a regular at the mechanics and cost you way more than a reliable Jap or the Ford you are looking at, I know a mechanic who would enjoy telling you the stories.

    • Yup, once out of warranty, get rid of it.If you do hang on to it, find a repair shop that specialises in Euro cars.

      • And an income capable of supporting the cost of repair

  • There are much better new car options out there but of the two choices given the new Ford Escape is a easy choice. The 4 year old BMW would not even be up for consideration sorry quite a bizarre option.

  • I'd be investing in a bomb shelter

Login or Join to leave a comment