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And I'd argue that they're completely different cameras for different purposes.
Saw your comment in the Sigma lens deal, you sound like a spec sheet warrior lol
Not sure why you say that, the Sony is a stills body video camera, the Blackmagic has class leading colours and all sorts of codecs, the Sony is just versions of compressed output.
Anyway, that's why I said "I'd argue" it's "better" and gave reasons as to why.
A7S III has autofocus. Obviously if you have a set and production crew with a focus puller, that's useless, but if so you're probably not buying a $4k camera.
@dualcore: AF and Full Frame sensor with better low light and dynamic range! The "color science" argument (that you can change manually from any camera) doesn't really stack up :P
@7ekn00: Technically if it isn't raw you can't just magically change it beyond all means. There is some limit to what you can do. There is no doubt that one provides a more digital look versus the other. I don't think anyone would even consider the Blackmagic, given the specs of the Sony, if it wasn't for the IQ differences.
@ballbog14: The Sony FF blows the BM6k image quality out of the water, try a line resolution test, even with RAW vs HEVC!
You can see the individual lines much closer together on Sony A7S III than you can on Black Magic 6k, it's the resolving power (and hence "detail") you get from a full frame sensor.
@7ekn00: I'm not talking about resolving power. I'm talking about differences in the images produced by the two cameras. One is more digital and suited for one type of application and the other leans towards capturing something you would get from an Arri or Red.
@[Deactivated]: Read slowly and carefully, I wasn't talking about pixel resolution, I am talking about a cameras ability to detect fine detail, the ability to RESOLVE SMALL DETAILED LINES … It's a standard MTF test for resolving DETAIL …
Oh, but I hear the small sensor crowd crying "Detail" is not "image quality" … right, then define your version of "Image Quality"!
@7ekn00: Image quality is what the image looks like, that's why DaVinci is the standard and the company that makes that software just happen to have amazing video cameras at an unbeatable price for the time being.
They're also Australian, I prefer to use what I want and can afford it's a bonus that I'm supporting grant petty and crew.
@7ekn00: These are just specifications, like resolution.
Resolution means nothing if the colour is off and the colour science of Blackmagic is objectively the best about.The colour of Sony isn't bad imo, but it's the worst from the Canikon crew.
I'm a Sony shooter, I have an A1 as my stills camera most of the time, a 7R4 for certain shots, mostly static subjects such as architecture/landscape and I use a blackmagic for video, not because resolve is nice because imo it isn't, but because the combination delivers a better image.
Resolution, corner resolution, the amount of low light grain etc. no one cares, if it were so crucial no one would watch old movies filmed with inferior (resolution and low light) equipment.
@[Deactivated]: Ah, so yet again the argument hinges purely on "color science" that can be set by any grey card and decent NLE!
Lets forget Low Light performance, lets forget dynamic range, lets forget autofocus, lets forget IBIS, lets forget we can easily change any "color science" with a decent NLE and lets argue "color science" out of the camera only, then the Canon R6 kills all, because it now becomes purely qualitative ;)
@7ekn00: lol, correct white balance isn't colour science not even the truest grey card will give you skin tones on a prosumer Sony the way a real Sony video camera will, or, for instance, a Canon.
I'm out, I'm not arguing with someone with perhaps a few years of camera experience, enjoy your spec sheet camera, it's your money, your decision, I'm sorry to have tried to help.
@[Deactivated]: LOL I have compared and worked with footage directly for the top 12 cameras sub $10k, day in day out, but whatever, enjoy your purely subjective "color science" ;)
@7ekn00: Sony prosumer stills/video hybrids are accurate, that's true, but the world's best colourists don't care for accuracy which is why their entire industry exists, they
correct, then manipulate/'grade' to taste.And I've been working with Sony since the Betacam, I like Sony, I don't see $3K of value in the 7S3 or I would have snapped one up.
Blackmagic 6K video quality doesn't even come close to the Sony. Even the Canon R6 has far superior video quality to the 6K Blackmagic.
Yep, and I post produce reels from a stack of different cameras, the R6 4k edges out A7SIII 4k and both beat the 6k from Black Magic!
Toyota Hilux vs Porsche 911, which is better :p
Shocking price. With that said, I suspect the A7 IV is better for most people. The oversampled 4K is beautiful, the noise is just as good, and the rolling shutter isn't a huge issue unless you are doing extreme action.
yeah unless the crop is a big deal and you need 120fps4k, a7iv is indeed a better choice for most ppl.
On a tripod the A7IV is better no questions, sharper 4K from the oversampled 7K, less aggressive noise processing. But the difference in rolling shutter is much bigger than you'e suggesting. Anything handheld or any sort of movement I'd go with the SIII.
Cheaper than they are going used.
Also check out the Sony FX3 Cinema Line if you're after a compact Sony video camera.
if you can get a FX3 within $500 of this price its worth considering as sony seem to differentiating these camera's with better firmware updates
Just use your phone camera
just use pencil and paper to draw.
here are the things i love about my a7siii after 2 years: 4.2k RAW 60p with an atomos recorder, 14 stops with pro res raw, lightweight for gimbal use, lots of glass without the need for an adapter, small usb c power bank can be keep battery topped up, with good exposure 50k-75k ISO is very usable.
some negatives: sony is favouring the fx3 with firmware updates even though they are the same camera, express type A cards are pricey,
This or the GH6?
This runs circles around GH6!
But if looking at this price range, get a Canon R6, the 4k is even more detailed ;)
cashrewards cashback is only 2% now -_-
Grab a pricematch from Sony's website now and wait until Shopback is 8-10% again to check out. Win/win if it works.
I price matched the A7C. They put it in my cart for $2071. Just waiting for an awesome cashback percentage XD
Haha that’s the way!
Will SB honour the cashback if the price matched items in the cart were added by Sony/ in the cart prior clicking through SB?
it was at a very similar price last time (tax season) at $4000
I hope to see $4000 is soon become a regular priceWhere are all the Nikon fanboys at. You let me down fam.
Sony A7R Mark IV at $3191.2 is pretty good as well.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/403209556271At this price i am like, why bother getting A7IV?
Generally speaking the lower megapixel sensor
the better the performance at high iso’s, as the pixels capture more light. A7 IV will generally perform better in low light situations or when you need to dial the ISO up. For most people the A7 IV is a better product unless there is a specific requirement for high resolution like for cropping wildlife or architecture.Not that it matters, but the A7R is a 3yo product compared to 9m for the A7 IV
Not how it works - the total amount of light gathered will be the same across the A7IV and A7RIV due to the same size of the sensor. If you view them at the same size (not both 100%), the A7RIV will look better detail-wise and you have better opportunity for noise reduction. See https://www.dpreview.com/videos/7940373140/dpreview-tv-why-l…
The A7IV is better in the following ways:
- Video features (A7IV stomps the A7RIV in this regard, there's so many extra features it's a whole topic on its own)
- Significant ergonomic improvements (new menu system, splitting of the video/photo modes and settings)
- Bird eye AF (this was the feature that won me over to the A7IV)
- CFExpress Type A support (controversial take, but the ability to clear buffer instantly is invaluable when I'm riding the shutter for bird photography)
- More PDAF points (whether that'll be useful for you is another story)
- Screen (if you like the folding screen)
- Compressed lossless RAW (cuts file size almost in half compared to uncompressed RAW)Whereas the A7RIV is better in:
- Higher resolution sensor
- Higher resolution screen (on the A7R IVA model, not the basic A7RIV. They're all the A version these days)
- Pixel shift (only useful in highly controlled scenarios - landscape has too much movement for it to be useful IMO)
- Screen (if you like tilt screens)Not alwasy true regading lower MP sensor having the same noise as higher MP. The higher MP camera typically has a higher amount of read noise due to the larger number of pixels that need to read out. This translates to higher DR at high ISO levels. Look at a7S1/2/3 compared to any other camera at 256k+ ISO in the deep shadows. The A7s will clearly have less noise (1-2 stops difference). Now this is quite an extreme ISO level and the still image quality will not be good anyway, but for video the quality at 256k+ can be usable due to the ability to do temporal noise reduction. In brigher areas of the image, the noise levels between a low MP and high MP sensor will be similar as main source of noise in the highlights is shot noise (stochastic variation in incident photons) and not read noise. So the low MP camera will typically be better in extremly low light levels
Unless you need 61 megapixels, the A7IV is a generally better all round camera particularly in the areas of video, autofocus and menu system.
I'm confused and very ignorant on this subject, wouldn't you want a "video camera" shape to your video camera? This is shaped like a photo camera? Isn't it a pain to hold a photo camera while taking video?
If you're really serious about video (and you would be to buy a A7SIII lol) you would probably have it on a gimbal/monopod/tripod anyway.
Arrg just bought my wife the A7IV a few days ago, would have got this if this deal was on last week :(
¿Por qué no los dos? Prove your love for your wife
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I probably won't pull the trigger on my price match so if anyone in Sydney is interested in this let me know!
Very nice of you!
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