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Philips Hue Akari White Colour & Ambience Downlight 90mm $79 + Delivery ($0 C&C/ in-Store) @ Bunnings

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Philips Hue Akari White Colour & Ambience Downlight 90mm $79 + Delivery ($0 C&C/ in-Store) @ Bunnings
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BNR32 on 08/08/2022 - 19:46 bunnings.com.au (612 clicks)
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Philips Hue Akari White Colour & Ambience Downlight 90mm $79 @ Bunnings

I see Amazon has now price matched it (".) for anyone with prime that wants easy free delivery/returns
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B09GFPXNJH

Overview
Bring colour to your home with this 90 mm recessed downlight. With 16 million colours, this light gives your home new personality. Control instantly via Bluetooth in one room or connect to a Hue Bridge to unlock the full suite of features. This downlight offers 800 lumen of bright usable light.

Key Features
Control up to 10 lights with the Bluetooth app
With the Hue Bluetooth app, you can control your Hue smart lights in a single room of your home. Add up to 10 smart lights and control them all with just the touch of a button on your mobile device.

Control lights with your voice
Philips Hue works with Amazon Alexa and the Google Assistant when paired with a compatible Google Nest or Amazon Echo device. Simple voice commands allow you to control multiple lights in a room or just a single lamp.

Get the perfect light recipes for your daily activities
Make your day easier and more pleasant with four preset light recipes handcrafted especially for your daily tasks: Energize, Concentrate, Read, and Relax. The two cool-toned scenes, Energize and Concentrate, help you get going in the morning or keep your focus, while the warmer scenes of Read and Relax help support comfortable reading or calm a busy mind.

Set the right mood with warm to cool white light
These bulbs and light fixtures offer different shades of warm to cool white light. With complete dimmability from bright to low nightlights, you can tune your lights to the perfect shade and brightness of light for your daily needs.

Unlock full suite of smart light features with Hue Bridge
Add a Hue Bridge (sold separately) to your smart lights to experience the full suite of Philips Hue features. With a Hue Bridge, you can add up to 50 smart lights to control throughout your home. Create routines to automate your entire smart home lighting setup. Control your lights while away from home or add accessories such as motion sensors and smart switches.

Create a personalized experience with colourful smart light
Use millions of colours of light to transform any room in your home, instantly creating a unique atmosphere. With the touch of a button, you can transform your living room with a pink glow or light your entire home in vibrant colours to turn any night at home into a personalized party.

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  • cycloneaussie on 08/08/2022 - 20:34

    We’ve a Mexican stand off between Bunnings and Amazon - been sitting at this price for a few weeks now

  • DoUKnowTheMuffinMan on 08/08/2022 - 21:23

    There is a table full of these on clearance at my local.
    Can't remember the price, I want to say $39?

    • BNR32 on 08/08/2022 - 21:24
      +4

      Where is your local? And are you sure it is the Hue Akari White Colour & Ambience Downlight? If so can you buy the lot and I will pay for postage (",) as I am after as many as you can get

    • lint on 09/08/2022 - 10:52

      Are you sure those are not the Garnea downlights, which only do white ambience?

      • DoUKnowTheMuffinMan on 09/08/2022 - 20:17

        Definitely not, I have Garnea setup at home, I would bought them.

  • Hargain Bunter on 08/08/2022 - 21:26

    Sorry for a noob question, but does anyone know if insulation can safely & legally be installed over the top of these downlights, and does it effect their lifespan?

    • BNR32 on 08/08/2022 - 21:30

      Ours are installed under ALOT of insulation batts. They really don't draw much heat compared to lights or traditional downlights. Can change them quite easily after being on for hours on end so I don't think they will be a fire hazard at all

      • Hargain Bunter on 08/08/2022 - 22:36

        Thanks very much, good to hear!

    • Aureus on 08/08/2022 - 21:54

      According to this
      https://www.philips-hue.com/en-au/p/hue-white-and-color-ambi…

      These are IC-4 rated. My understanding is that means it can be covered. Most downlights have a picture on the box showing if they can be covered with insulation also.

      • Hargain Bunter on 08/08/2022 - 22:35

        Thanks very much, I missed that! I was looking for IC-F, but looks like IC-F and IC-4 are the same.

        • singingwolf on 08/08/2022 - 22:49

          https://efficiencymatrix.com/ic-4-rated-downlights-vs-barrie…

          Looks like the standard only covers safety. They may still overheat and have reduced life. Can you cut a small circle into the insulation?

          • Hargain Bunter on 08/08/2022 - 23:20

            @singingwolf: I was reading through that one earlier, I wasn’t sure if they were just trying to get people to buy their downlight covers though.

            I don’t have the insulation yet. I’m in the process of researching an insulation upgrade and as part of that, replacing our drafty edison screw recessed fittings with something that can be covered with insulation.

          • bargainshooter on 09/08/2022 - 21:05

            @singingwolf: Cutting into insulation is what you don't want to do - it renders all the other insulation practically useless as the heat will transfer through that hole, however small it is.

      • lint on 09/08/2022 - 10:55

        From memory the sheet inside these show a minimum clearance required for insulation so they don't overheat. I probably wouldn't have insulation directly on top of them, leave a bit of gap if possible.

  • stuckster on 09/08/2022 - 00:02
    +1

    Original price?
    What's the difference between these lights for $79 and these Smart Leads from Aldi for $13? https://offers.kd2.org/en/au/aldi/pknQR/

    • Francis82 on 09/08/2022 - 08:46

      $13 looks like a cracking price!

      • stuckster on 09/08/2022 - 09:02

        I thought so too. Wondering why the Philips ones are apparently worth 6x

        • lint on 09/08/2022 - 11:01

          Philips Hue tax is like Apple tax. Some people think it's an absolute ripoff and would rather get cheaper alternatives, others think you get what you pay for and others still sit in between and try to balance the quality vs price tradeoff.

          • stuckster on 09/08/2022 - 19:19

            @lint: I understand paying a 30-40% premium for top brand phones with the latest, greatest features/tech. But Id love to know what makes these Philips Hue lights worth 600% more than another light with similar features and functions. What does the 'Philips tax' provide for customers?

            • bargainshooter on 09/08/2022 - 21:08

              @stuckster: Wifi controlled lights are not in any way similar to the Hue lights, other than being remote controlled. Hue uses the zigbee protocol (primarily), which has many benefits over basic wifi controlled lights (and possibly some cons).

              • stuckster on 10/08/2022 - 10:24

                @bargainshooter: Many benefits… such as?

                I've had a read about ZigBee to try and become a bit more informed. Seems you also need a bridge device ($50) to enable voice control, grouping and to be able to control hue devices over the net (outside the home). On the other hand Wifi lights have these features out of the box.

                The upsides I've read about are Zigbee's increased security (not very relevant for lights) and improved lag so the lights turn on/off half a second faster.

                What are the other many benefits (over standard Wi-Fi lights) that make these worth 6x as much? I'm still not seeing it.

            • lint on 10/08/2022 - 10:07

              @stuckster: Like @bargainshooter says, but also because this isn't like comparing a Galaxy S22 to an iPhone 13 Pro. This is more akin to comparing Galaxy M32 to the latest iPhone.

              They may look similar in form but you'll soon realise that the quality, capabilities and features are quite different.

              • stuckster on 10/08/2022 - 10:25

                @lint: How? Please see my comments replying to @Bargainshooter.

                • lint on 10/08/2022 - 10:42

                  @stuckster: I haven't seen the Aldi lights myself, so I don't know exactly how they perform, but there could be differences in things like peak brightness, producable colours, response time, rated life of the LEDs, smart home integration (the Aldi one notably lacks HomeKit), app quality, ability to cycle through user-defined colours, sync to music or video, etc.

                  In terms of Zigbee vs Wi-Fi, I think Wi-Fi isn't really an issue if you just have a few smart lights connected, but if you want to have a lot of smart lights (and other smart devices to control them) I personally wouldn't want to have them all connecting to Wi-Fi and possibly slowing down access for my other devices.

                  Having a hub to control the lights as with Zigbee is also what allows some of the advanced Hue functions to work that you don't get just from a Google Nest or Alexa hub. Without it, you'd need to have the app running on your phone to do the same thing. Or say you also want to get a physical switch to control the lights as well as voice and automation. With Zigbee you can easily pair it up with the hub whereas with the Wi-Fi lights you'll likely need one that connects to your Wi-Fi which I wouldn't imagine to be very power efficient.

                  For some people, the Aldi ones are good enough for what they need and that's perfectly fine.

                  • stuckster on 10/08/2022 - 12:07

                    @lint: Ok thanks.

                    The Aldi lights are SmartLife compatible and therefore come with standard SL functions (white/colour, preset scenes, user-defined colours/brightness, music sync, timer, scheduling, biorhythms etc). Lights are rated at 8w (don't know peak lumens), 2700k - 6500 colour temp. They can be grouped with other devices on the network and will also recall their previous setting. I'm happy with the quality of the Smartlife app, although it can be slow to load. Yes the lights don't support Homekit (which we don't use) but all in all you get quite a good set of functions on the SL platform. I also have our lights on both a physical switch and voice control. So in terms of 'cool stuff' you can do with the lights and functions, both systems seem fairly evenly matched.

                    The key differences seem to be that Hue offers a proprietary network/mesh designed for controlling lots of individual devices, that offers better security and won't impact on your wifi bandwidth. Response time and rated life of LEDs may also be better.

                    Response times don't bother me and if the lights die they are only $13 to replace :)
                    I can't say I've ever noticed any significant impact on our wifi network running the 20 or so devices we currently have connected, but I guess the Hue system would be appealing if you're worried about that, need the enhanced security or have 50+ devices on the same network.

                    Each to their own. I'm always keen to stay informed of the alternatives. But if you're already in the Hue ecosystem then it makes sense. Otherwise it's still hard for me to see the added value at 6x the price.

                    • stuckster on 10/08/2022 - 13:43

                      @stuckster: If you're already in the Hue ecosystem ignore…

                      But for anyone thinking about it, this video has some points worth considering.
                      https://youtu.be/IiT55Gee7pg

                    • lint on 10/08/2022 - 16:29

                      @stuckster: If you're happy with all the stuff the Aldi one does, then that's perfectly ok.

                      In any case, I think Lifx products are somewhat more comparable to Hue while using Wi-Fi instead of Zigbee. I heard they're also capable of producing a bigger colour range than Hue too.

  • mctrix on 09/08/2022 - 08:35

    Any advice on adaptor plates for 110mm down lights to fit these 90mm?

    • stuckster on 09/08/2022 - 09:06

      I've installed them. They work great. https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-92mm-white-cut-out-downligh…
      What advice did you need?

      • mctrix on 09/08/2022 - 16:10

        My current down lights are 110mm so do these plates simply slot into the cut-out then the 90mm light sits within the adaptor? Do the plates move or lift?

        • stuckster on 09/08/2022 - 19:11

          Yep. Exactly. The plates are really secure. Held in by the same sort of clips the lights use.

          • Hargain Bunter on 07/09/2022 - 19:28

            @stuckster: Do the Hues sit flush in the plate, and is the colour of the hue and the plate the same?

            Could I please trouble you for a photo?

            • stuckster on 07/09/2022 - 19:55

              @Hargain Bunter: Sorry. I should have clarified that I've installed plates with another brand of 90mm downlight. Thought the OP was asking about light plates in general, not specifically for the Hues. So I can't really comment sorry.

  • the frost on 09/08/2022 - 11:16

    Camels link: https://au.camelcamelcamel.com/product/B09GFPXNJH

    It looks they're normally $99 but have been on sale a few times, including to $75. Not sure what Bunnings normally list it for.

  • martin_henry on 09/08/2022 - 13:23

    What differentiates these from the various $15 - 25 downlights with colour/temperature selection ?

    • TheMills on 10/08/2022 - 12:14

      Its the brand Apple of the downlights!

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