[VIC] Free N95 and KN95 Masks to Victorians Who Takes a RAT/PCR Test

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[VIC] Free N95 and KN95 Masks to Victorians Who Takes a RAT/PCR Test

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Pnicholasv on 09/08/2022 - 11:33 premier.vic.gov.au (2009 clicks)
Last edited 09/08/2022 - 16:55 by 1 other user

Hi all,

Saw this update from Dan Andrews stating that free N95 and KN95 Masks will be provided over the next 4 to 6 weeks.

Premier Daniel Andrews and Minister for Health Mary-Anne Thomas today announced that more than three million masks will be handed out to the community through our state-run testing sites, community health services across Victoria and across the public transport network.

Over the next four to six weeks every person that presents for either a free rapid antigen or PCR test will receive one box of 10 N95 masks, along with instructions on how best to wear them to reduce transmission.

Can read up more here:
https://www.premier.vic.gov.au/free-masks-keep-victorians-sa…

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- Atomik17 on 09/08/2022 - 15:30
  
  +3
  
  Is bullshit. Elective surgery issue exist because we don't have staff. Most have left for easier work or walked away because of mandates. We have the beds just no one to man those beds. Same issue has spread to ED and ICU. No one wants to continue this circus of being overworked and lied too.
  - belongsinforums on 09/08/2022 - 18:02
    
    Most surgeons have walked away? Source?
    - infinite on 09/08/2022 - 21:33
      
      Re-read what he actually said.
    - Lv80 on 11/08/2022 - 02:29
      
      Surgeons do the surgery..it's the nurses and lower end staff that allow a hospital to run or not. Do you think patients look after themselves before and after surgery?
- belongsinforums on 09/08/2022 - 18:01
  
  6 risk of long covid increases with each successive infection
  - infinite on 09/08/2022 - 21:39
    
    That's only the case because health officials have progressively reduced the amount of time that having any post-Covid effects classifies you as having "long Covid", with each new iteration of Covid. It used to be months, then a month, then weeks, then a week & now it's only a matter of days. The number of different mystery ailments and conditions caused by "long Covid" also seems to change by the day. Different countries recognise it in different ways and many countries don't even recognize it as a clinical condition at all, as there is no universal diagnostic tool, test or standard to even identify what it is.
    - belongsinforums on 09/08/2022 - 21:44
      
      Thanks doctor!
- mixsta on 10/08/2022 - 12:45
  
  Don't forget that "Long Covid" is affecting potentially 1 million Australians.
  
  More than 8.5 million Australians have now had COVID-19 and, while there aren't figures on how many will have long COVID, the World Health Organization estimates 10 to 20 per cent of people will experience ongoing symptoms.
  
  Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-20/younger-active-female…
  - infinite on 10/08/2022 - 23:19
    
    -1
    
    That's only the case because health officials have progressively reduced the amount of time that having any post-Covid effects classifies you as having "long Covid", with each new iteration of Covid. It used to be months, then a month, then weeks, then a week & now it's only a matter of days. The number of different mystery ailments and conditions caused by "long Covid" also seems to change by the day. Different countries recognise it in different ways and many countries don't even recognize it as a clinical condition at all, as there is no universal diagnostic tool, test or standard to even identify what it is.
BadBargain on 09/08/2022 - 11:55

+1

Better than this
Stopback on 09/08/2022 - 11:59

-3

hosptials only give out surgical masks, if its good enough for hosptials then
- belongsinforums on 09/08/2022 - 21:46
  
  +1
  
  really? i remember reading several accounts of nurses who say theyve been wearing n95 masks all day every day
USER DC on 09/08/2022 - 12:04

+9

Great now people will unnecessarily be going to get a RAT/PCR tests when they never needed to

Just to get a free mask
- vodamerc on 09/08/2022 - 12:08
  
  +7
  
  Exactly, each PCR test costs the taxpayer ~$150.
  - jv on 09/08/2022 - 12:53
    
    +3
    
    You need to have symptoms to be eligible for a free PCR test.
    - TEER3X on 09/08/2022 - 13:10
      
      It's more than that, I was told (at a testing site) last weekend the rules changed July 1st and it's much harder to get a PCR now
    - USER DC on 09/08/2022 - 13:33
      
      +2
      
      you mean YOU NEED TO DECLARE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS LIKE I GOT A HEADACHE ?
      
      Without any proof
      - jv on 09/08/2022 - 13:46
        
        @USER DC:
        
        Without any proof
        
        How do you proove a headache?
        
        smartazz104 on 09/08/2022 - 15:15
        
        @jv: The way some of these people carry on, they're actually the ones causing the headaches
  - Stopback on 09/08/2022 - 14:22
    
    +5
    
    How much does it cost the taxpayer having a person in hospital with covid?
netsurfer on 09/08/2022 - 12:06

+1

Wait, so to get this, you need to queue up to do the PCR test or eligible for free RAT kit?

Will those PCR test centres be full of people because of this?
- sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 12:09
  
  +2
  
  yes it will be full of people like you.
  - netsurfer on 09/08/2022 - 12:12
    
    You can queue up, I am not going to bother. I know my pay rate is super low, but it's still higher than a box of masks.
    - sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 12:13
      
      -8
      
      im not a sheep, no masks no vaccines no rat tests, didnt buy in to the scam.
      - netsurfer on 09/08/2022 - 12:14
        
        @sammyla: And you also assume everyone else is the opposite?
        
        sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 12:15
        
        +1
        
        @netsurfer: Nope i hope you are not one, my first comment was pure sarcasm.
        
        netsurfer on 09/08/2022 - 12:17
        
        @sammyla: Had to drive a relative to one of those centres around new year. Drive through queue was full so had to queue up manually. Waited 2 hours. People coughing and a lot of them not wearing mask. So, give them masks while they are waiting will be better (not when they are ready to receive the test). Not going there unless I really have to.
        
        sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 12:20
        
        -1
        
        @netsurfer: Dude honestly, just take your vitamin D and may be a bit of K, eat healthy and exercise, you will get sick from time to time but recover quickly that's absolutely normal.
        
        KLoNe on 09/08/2022 - 13:09
        
        +1
        
        @sammyla: This is Ozbargain - there's healthier people on /r/McDonalds
      - jv on 09/08/2022 - 12:23
        
        +3
        
        @sammyla:
        
        im not a sheep
        
        It appears you are…
        
        sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 14:28
        
        +1
        
        @jv: oh sorry to tel you JV i ain't. don't know about you though?
        
        smartazz104 on 09/08/2022 - 15:17
        
        @sammyla: You're not a sheep, you're a donkey.
        
        sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 15:35
        
        +1
        
        @smartazz104: clearly im not the one who had 4 jabs and still caught covid,keep wearing your mask hahahah and of course live in fear!!
        
        jv on 09/08/2022 - 15:35
        
        +2
        
        @sammyla:
        
        oh sorry to tel you JV i ain't.
        
        Denial is one of the first signs that you are a sheep.
        
        sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 15:37
        
        +1
        
        @jv: hahahaha ok, seems like you dont know what sheep really means because you are a sheep and it feels natural.JV no one is stopping you from being a hypochondriac. happy boosting.
        
        jv on 09/08/2022 - 15:45
        
        +2
        
        @sammyla:
        
        seems like you dont know what sheep really means
        
        let me show you in pictures so you can understand…
        
        sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 15:56
        
        +1
        
        @jv: oh dear you are really scared of covid are you?to the extent you compare it to a wolf. hahahaha i have no words!! you have no idea who the wolf and is and what its motive is.
        
        jv on 09/08/2022 - 15:58
        
        +1
        
        @sammyla:
        
        oh dear you are really scared of covid are you?
        
        not really. just don't want to catch it and spread it…
        
        being locked up for a week is not something I'd look forward to, and I'm not selfish enough to risk spreading it to the weak and elderly…
        
        sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 16:03
        
        +1
        
        @jv: wow so you think you were locked up for your safety hahah no it was compliance testing JV all for a disease with 99% survival rate. now stop blaming Dan for it every political party and every government did the same thing. and you fell for it.
      - eraser215 on 09/08/2022 - 14:07
        
        @sammyla: Which scam are you referring to?
- nicholasv on 09/08/2022 - 12:14
  
  I personally won't be going to get a PCR test just for the mask. If I'm not showing symptoms then a N95 mask isn't necessary for me. If I do become symptomatic then I'll, as well as other community members, will have comfort in me wearing a N95 mask until I get a negative PCR result
  - netsurfer on 09/08/2022 - 12:15
    
    +1
    
    Agreed. This post is @#$@#$#. It's good for people who need it but honestly, who actually wants this deal?
    
    I guess it's good for students.
sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 12:06

-5

hahahahaha omg state of this world!!! free masks when all you need to do is opening doors and windows according to vic chief health officer, people are really dumb. its sad.
- jv on 09/08/2022 - 16:00
  
  +1
  
  all you need to do is opening doors and windows according to vic chief health officer
  
  didn't help all the people that died of it this last week…
  - sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 16:22
    
    -1
    
    who died of what? dont you know that deaths get recorded as covid deaths even if the reason for death is not covid? and dony you know the fact that majority of the dead are vaccinated and booosted? dont believ me? go and see NSW daily cases deaths breakdown. seriously get your head out of t he sand. i dont want to tryo to convince you it seems you believe the MSM narrative.
    - jv on 09/08/2022 - 16:25
      
      +2
      
      who died of what?
      
      the people who died because they caught covid.
      - sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 16:29
        
        +1
        
        @jv: no thats what you are told because you dont know the stats,like i said NSW reports deaths and vaccination status. i know its hard to swallow after all you have done/complied with. but never too late to learn the truth. come on mate we live in a world where we see headlines like "sock lines are a sign of imminent heart attacks" not kidding its from the sun or the independent from UK. now think twice before you believe what you read.
        
        jv on 09/08/2022 - 16:32
        
        +2
        
        @sammyla:
        
        no thats what you are told
        
        I translated your comment in Google Translate and it returned:
        
        Baaaaaaaaa
        
        sammyla on 09/08/2022 - 16:34
        
        @jv: hahaha you are beyond saving. good luck to you JV.if only you had some common sense, you even refuse to go and look up NSW deaths and vax status stats.
        
        jv on 09/08/2022 - 16:55
        
        +1
        
        @sammyla:
        
        hahaha you are beyond saving.
        
        No worries, you just keep praising your ~~lord~~ shepherd…
        
        ihfree on 09/08/2022 - 19:12
        
        @sammyla: Ha, fancy seeing you here - still saying nothing, still with all the assumptions, still with questionable reading comprehension.
        
        Could you please link to this info along with your interpretation?
        
        sammyla on 10/08/2022 - 18:48
        
        @ihfree: hahahah keep boosting and keep wearing a mask, live in fear, also look up NSW deaths by vax status.i know you are worried to look at it but i guess it is what it is now hahaha.also go to TGA database and look up the adverse reaction.remember most adverse reactions are not known in the short term hahaha. one day you will wish you dint take the jabs lol. alos educate yourself on drug AZT and HIV hahaha.
        
        ihfree on 10/08/2022 - 19:00
        
        +1
        
        @sammyla: From a brief look at the data, it looks like the unvaccinated are more likely to die(looking at deaths /capita).
        
        Is that what you wanted us to see?
        
        sammyla on 10/08/2022 - 20:01
        
        @ihfree: hahahha stop lying, vaccinated are at higher risk of drying but its ok yu may be scared.so create this delusion in your head if that makes you happy.
        
        to prove me wrong provide the link where it says vaccinated are at higher risk per capita. ill wait. now im really interest to see your data hahaha.
        
        ihfree on 10/08/2022 - 20:11
        
        @sammyla: Take your pick. Could you please post alternate sources of data if you disagree?
        
        NSW
        https://covidbaseau.com/nsw/#line8
        
        USA
        https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-co…
        
        Article - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/third-of-victorias-20…
        
        sammyla on 10/08/2022 - 20:20
        
        @ihfree: hahahaha you are joking right? thats not where i asked you to look. those are private websites and funded by vested interests lol, i said TGA and NSW health deaths by vax status?, it looks like you cant read?
        
        sammyla on 10/08/2022 - 20:28
        
        @sammyla: Here is your first link, TGA ADVERSE REACTIONS type covid and pick all vaccines in he list hit search select date range 2020 Jan 1 to 2022 July 27
        
        https://apps.tga.gov.au/PROD/DAEN/daen-entry.aspx
        
        its 75 pages hahaha and remember this is only recorded ones there are many that GP's dont record lol
        
        if you need help to navigate this let me know
        
        ihfree on 10/08/2022 - 20:31
        
        @sammyla: Your comment is right there. You didn't ask for anything specific. Based on the broken language you use in all your posts and your inability to communicate clearly, maybe it's time to go back to school and take some language courses.
        
        The ABC is a publicly funded organisation in the same category as the TGA/NSW Health. Feel free to link to the source of the data if you want.
        
        sammyla on 11/08/2022 - 08:14
        
        @ihfree: hahah so you attack someone for their English hahaha who cares you understand every word im saying you brainwashed person lol, you are noting but a woke bigot lol keep boosting and wear mask and live in fear, ABC Is the most woke biased news organization.i kno you are scared to look at TGA DATA buy hey its too late yu already took jabs lol no urning back!
        
        ihfree on 11/08/2022 - 09:15
        
        @sammyla: Lol, your language skills degrade as you get more hysterical.
        
        Are the deaths because of or with? Are the adverse reactions because of or with?
        
        sammyla on 11/08/2022 - 10:08
        
        @ihfree: doesnt matter bigot you still understand what im saying, and as a person who came to this country with no knowledge of English whatsoever im doing extremely well socially and financially haha unlike you bigots i could ride the covid without taking jabs, and as a person im much better than you.of or with? it wouldnt matte because you don't understand anything anyway. everyone who gets admitted to hospital get tested and even if they die of another cause it get recorded as a covid death,even some health officials are on tape saying it but you bigots are too brainwashed you dont hear it well you had your MRN jab, wait till it infiltrates your nucleus lol. you are so brainwashed by media and politicians you cannot even think for yourself. how do you feel now bigot? hahahah
        
        ihfree on 11/08/2022 - 10:35
        
        @sammyla: Lol, the criticisms of your language come down to laziness, lack of punctuation, and inability to use tools such as the browser's spell check. It's no surprise that you're desperate to be a victim. There are no prizes for guessing where you get your news.
        
        sammyla on 11/08/2022 - 10:55
        
        @ihfree: haha nice try to blame it on my punctuation spell checks, im not playing the victim, im merely calling out a woke bigot. isnt it orinic that woke bigots like you show the world you are not racist and inclusive but you are quite the opposite lol , thats maks you a vulnerablc confused bunch easily manipulated by media and politicians. im sure you follow movement like BLM like a sheep but in reality you are nothing but a racist bigot.like i said im doing quite well and laugh at you bigots who think they are above others just becasue they can speak and type English hahahah. who cares ? where has English taken you? its ok no need to tell me i can figure it out nicely. but on the flip side i can speak 2 other languages unlike you bigot lol.stay in your bigot hole thinking you are superior to others because you got OCD driven spell checks and pronunciation corrections that has no correlation how successful one is in life.
        
        ihfree on 11/08/2022 - 11:10
        
        @sammyla:
        
        orinic, maks you a vulnerablc
        
        You're honestly telling me your browser didn't highlight those words? Language issues, laziness - take your pick. Besides, the comment is more about degradation based on your emotional state. Don't play the victim - it's not a good look.
        
        And there we go with the assumptions again. You know nothing about me. The fact that you're resorting to personal attacks based on unknowns just goes to show how emotionally unbalanced and hysterical you are.
        
        The media you watch is undoubtedly for people who are told to think the MSM is problematic but fail to take another leap and realize the media they consume is also problematic. This same media undoubtedly tells you that you're different and somehow special for simply watching it. It's quite evident based on your comments the style of media you consume. It's easy for simple minds to get wrapped up in.
        
        sammyla on 11/08/2022 - 11:27
        
        @ihfree: haha like i said no need to deflect away from the real issue here, you are the one started mocking my English, i am not emotional i type fast(im not here to make you feel better about yourself i have a day job so excuse my spelling mistakes hahahaha) im least interested in correcting my spellings which makes absolutely no difference to the way you understand what im saying, its hows how weak you are when picking on spellings punctuation etc when in reality you understand exactly what i'm saying. im not making assumptions about you its reality, you can reject that as much as you like but at the end of the day there are two kinds of people. you dismiss the facts in front of you purely because you cant think for yourself. now if i told you there are headlines like "sock lines around the ankle is a sign of heart attacks" "changing clock for daylight savings can cause heart attacks" who would believe mainstream media???, above are from sun and the independent, there is an attempt to fool people through media and you easily fall for it because you cant think for yourself.
        
        you tell me im making an assumption and here you are thinking im on bitchute and rumble hahaha yeah thats what you assume but im open to bitchute rumble or anything else even mainstream media but i am smart enough to figure out the hidden agenda, you think places like facebook twitter rumble is not awash with misinformation from people who support vaccines as well as people who oppose them? but you have to have a brain to analyze and figure out whats correct whats not, that is enabled via common sense, and you lack exactly that.
        
        So you took a jab, two, three, four, and five. still got sick, ever wondered why? ever wondered why masks are promoted? masks do nothing to stop the spread and vaccines dont do either,we are one of the highly vaccinated countries and see how everyone getting sick, well i can tell you i have had mild colds/flu 4 times and one severe flu once in last 2 years and that's it and guess what vaccinated people i know including my neighbors have been hit extremely hard each time. now if anyone who had a brain would stop and think why this is happening. when a bunch of guys do a live simulation on the next pandemic preparedness and tell you something is coming you go wow!!, when it happens you fools believe its by coincidence in fact its by design.
        
        Im done explaining to you, you go and take your boosters and wear a mask and be the good obedient sheep you are till one day when you realize you have been fully indoctrinated
        
        ihfree on 11/08/2022 - 11:55
        
        @sammyla: Triggered.
        
        sammyla on 11/08/2022 - 11:56
        
        @ihfree: Not at all,see its a perfect example how you dismiss the facts i presented lol
        
        ihfree on 11/08/2022 - 12:30
        
        @sammyla: That's an extremely emotional and fact-free post. There's a bit of anecdotal evidence in there, but certainly nothing you could draw conclusions from.
        
        in fact its by design.
        
        Could you present some evidence around this? or did you just coincidentally connect the dots in the same way as other members of your "news" sources' audience?
        
        sammyla on 11/08/2022 - 12:40
        
        @ihfree: of course its by design.not going to present any more evidence you are free to look them up in your own time but dont bother i dont think you have the intellect to understand because you are some indoctrinated sheep no matter how much fact is put in front of you you will dismiss it just like you did above, why dont you tell me what you think about the media headlines i posted above? and why do we all of a sudden have viruses and pandemics popping up.you don't get it do you hahaha so brainwashed! and why does an individual who is the second biggest funder to WHO is pushing vaccines? dont get it? haha yup you dont!
        
        ihfree on 11/08/2022 - 13:28
        
        @sammyla: Ok, now we're getting a clearer picture. You haven't put anything in front of us - it's just you acting "woke". You can just type his name. It's not like Bill Gates is Voldermort.
        
        Media sensationalizes things to sell you to advertisers or acquire donations. You are clearly a victim of this sensationalism.
        
        We don't suddenly have viruses popping up, they're around us all the time - what separates covid is its ability to spread and mortality rate. There have been plenty of pandemics throughout history.
        
        This clearly isn't going anywhere. Stay woke bro.
        
        sammyla on 11/08/2022 - 14:00
        
        @ihfree: oh dear severely brainwashed.you cannot see any hidden agenda. well what can i say, keep boosting, stuff up your T cell production, keep wearing a mask and live in fear.
        
        media sensationalize with ridiculous articles about sock lines because sheep like you believe them.
        
        BIll gates loves you so do politicians. viruses are everywhere and i remember many lock downs for viruses.completely normal.
        
        im hardly woke you bigot, you are the woke one here hahaha, keep getting yur daily dose of BS from WOKE ABC. this guy is actually insane lol
        
        Covid is over, not for you sheep of course. for us we never noticed it.
        
        ihfree on 11/08/2022 - 14:27
        
        @sammyla: Yet another emotionally charged response based on assumptions.
        
        media sensationalize with ridiculous articles about sock lines because sheep like you believe them.
        
        That's the opposite of what my response said.
        
        keep getting yur daily dose of BS from WOKE ABC
        
        The ABC lean right. They have more scrutiny than any other media organization. I haven't specified any news source that I use, so yet another assumption 🤔
        
        Covid is over, not for you sheep of course. for us we never noticed it.
        
        Ha, sure. Typical selfish point of view. It's certainly not over for many people in our society.
        
        Stay woke bro.
        
        sammyla on 11/08/2022 - 14:43
        
        @ihfree: now you cant come up with proper responses you call me woke, thats extremely sad because you are the ABC watching woke person here.reminds me of the kids who were crying all day at primary school throwing tantrums because mommy left them in the morning. yes you were raised to fear everything even a mild illness.
        
        yup im so emotional, im literally smashing things up the wall.media doesnt sensationalize without a reason. and sheep like you believe it hence they keep at it. and there are people who fall for the Nigerian scammers and you think there are people who dont fall for those articles. you are a perfect example.instead of questioning it you think its to atrract readers.gosh how dumb is that?
        
        ABC leans right? hahahah biggest joke of the day, you must be living in a parallel universe.you live in a delusion where media tells you the truth hahaha
        
        Covid cant be over because you fools took a jab developed through genome sequence, yes the virus has never been isolated,all done thorough a genome sequence lol, when fools like you take jab after jab after jab why not make more and bring in more viruses through fear and news, its a very lucrative business.
        
        me Selfish? im not selfish i dont need to take a jab to protect others from an illness that has 99.99% survival rate. people who die from a cold would die from covid, thats the reality and nothing will change that no matter how much you vaccinate,vaccination in a pandemic creates mutations and natural immunity doesnt it makes the virus endemic. go educate yourself…BIGOT hahaha
        
        you are infected with woke mind virus.
        
        ihfree on 11/08/2022 - 14:51
        
        @sammyla: Stay woke, bro!
        
        sammyla on 11/08/2022 - 16:06
        
        +1
        
        @ihfree: wow what a comeback. you are possibly not computer savvy, since you don't have the ability to browse and find data here is the link showing vaccinated people dying this is NSW government data. be enlightened sheep…
        
        read page 4 of this document.
        
        https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/…
        
        By COVID vaccination status
        
        admission to hospital not the ICU
        No dose - 0 (wow surprise surprise)
        4 doses or more - 197
        4 doeses - 269
        2 doses - 142
        1 dose -12(hahaha surprise surprise)
        Unknown - 204
        
        Admitted to ICU
        4 doses or more - 15
        3 doses - 21
        2 doses -10
        1 dose - 1
        No dose - 1
        Unknown 21
        
        Deaths
        Four doses or more - 76
        Three doses - 63
        Two doses - 22
        One dose - 4
        No dose - 30
        Unknown - 5
        
        just letting you know little sheep all deaths are recorded as COVID deaths even if the reason is not covid
        
        Vaccines are very safe and effective FOOL hahahahaha
        
        ihfree on 11/08/2022 - 16:19
        
        -1
        
        @sammyla: Not computer savvy. Interesting, seeing as you don't even bother with spell check.
        
        https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-…
        
        96.9% 16+ have had at least one dose (NSW).
        
        200 deaths in total. If vaccines made no difference, you'd expect 3.1% of the deaths to be unvaccinated. That would be 6 deaths. Instead, it's 30 deaths so 15%.
        
        Admissions with unknown vax status - hospital - 204, ICU - 21. 25% and 31.8%(inc 1 no dose) respectively.
        
        People with unknown vaccination status were unable to be found in AIR
        
        They sound unvaccinated, though maybe there's something i'm missing. Plz point out big brain?
        
        sammyla on 11/08/2022 - 22:14
        
        @ihfree: Hahahah you just showed how unintelligent you are you are terrible at analyzing data. i thought you had a bit of brain but it seems you like to embarrass yourself. you cannot fool people, nope not when i'm your opponent lol,
        
        pay special attention to Died WITH COVID nor FROM COVID fool. 85 out of the 200 were aged care residents lol
        
        Of the 200 people who were reported to have died WITH COVID-19, only 139 (70%) had at least three doses of
        a COVID-19 vaccine, while another 22 had received two doses, four had received one dose and 30 had
        received no doses of a COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccination status of the remaining five were unable to be
        determined.
        1
        • Eighty five were aged care residents. Twenty five of these people died in hospital and 60 died at an aged care
        facility.
        • Seven of the deaths occurred at home. All of these were diagnosed with COVID-19 prior to death
        
        you say 96.7% over 16 vaccinated - ok so lets look at the numbers fool
        
        unknown vaccination status fine print.
        ""Vaccination status is determined by matching to Australian Immunisation Register (AIR) data. Name and date of
        birth need to be an exact match to that recorded in AIR. People with unknown vaccination status were unable to be
        found in AIR, though may have vaccination details recorded in AIR under a shortened name or different spelling"
        
        All patients with unknown status is almost certainly vaccinated because 96.7% is vaccinated, so in tat means all or at least all or 198 out of 204 has to be vaccinated hahahaha
        
        Admissions to hospital based on a 96.7% vaccination rate of over 16
        824*96.7%=797<- number of people vaccinated.
        out of 824 admissions to hospital 797 are vaccinated including unknown.
        27 people out of 824 admitted are unvaccinated
        
        Admitted to ICU
        2 out of 69 people are unvaccinated -
        With 96.7% vaccination rate 21 with unknown vaccination status so 96.7%*21 = 20 should be at least one dose vaccinated.1 has to be unvaccinated
        
        Deaths
        200
        Unknown vaccination status 5, with 96.7% vaccinated almost all of them are vaccinated at 4.8 persons hahaha
        30 unvaccinated deaths - ok 15% are unvaccinated deaths, 85% are vaccinated deaths.
        
        well you just made a fool out of yourself, vaccines dont save lives it actually does the opposite lol
        given 42.5% out of 200 were aged care residents at least 12 out of the 30 could be elderly aged care residents so that leaves about 18 unvaccinated deaths of people who may have had comorbidities. real death rate of unvaccinated people is more like 9%
        
        HAHAHAHAHA FOOL!
        
        ihfree on 11/08/2022 - 16:37
        
        -1
        
        @sammyla: From a quick search on the unknown status:
        
        On page 11 of this report:
        https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/…
        
        Interpretation: The vaccination status of cases was more likely to be unknown for the period 25 August to 21 September, when the greatest numbers of cases were diagnosed. Direct detailed manual review in the AIR of a random sample of cases (n=50) with unknown vaccination status found that 82% did not have a COVID-19 vaccine.
        This suggests that the majority of the cases classified with unknown vaccination are likely to be unvaccinated.
        
        Once those Unknown numbers are adjusted for this, they're still nowhere near 3.1%, inline with the unvaccinated population.
        
        I'm just looking at the numbers. I'm not making a judgement one way or another, though, I am curious to hear your interpretation.
        
        sammyla on 11/08/2022 - 22:17
        
        +1
        
        @ihfree: bahahahaha read my comment above lol
        
        ihfree on 11/08/2022 - 22:31
        
        -1
        
        @sammyla:
        
        All patients with unknown status is almost certainly vaccinated because 96.7% is vaccinated, so in tat means all or at least all or 198 out of 204 has to be vaccinated
        
        Those are some serious mental gymnastics from you that directly contradict the other report.
        
        vaccines dont save lives it actually does the opposite lol
        
        You can look at the death rate prior to vaccination and now with the virus spread through society.
        
        15% are unvaccinated deaths, 85% are vaccinated deaths.
        
        15% from 3.1% of the population. Exactly. Case closed. Guess we got there in the end.
        
        sammyla on 12/08/2022 - 09:24
        
        @ihfree: hahahaha im still laughing, 96.7% of population over 16 vaxxed, automatically in every sample 96.7% , gosh how dumb is your claim.
        
        out of 200 people dead 85% were vaccinated enough said lol and 85 are aged care residents. we got there at the end indeed, unvaccinated account for much less deaths than vaccinated, vaccinated are at least 5 times more likely to die hahahaha so in every sample unvaccinated deaths are higher
        
        FOOL!!
        
        ihfree on 12/08/2022 - 09:41
        
        @sammyla:
        
        vaccinated are at least 5 times more likely to die
        
        Right. That's a meaningless stat. There are also far more people who are vaccinated who are infected. That means the death rate for them is much lower.
        
        vaccinated are at least 5 times more likely to die
        
        Raw numbers are meaningless without interpretation and once you look at other metrics, they suggest you're more like to die if you are unvaccinated.
        
        15% from 3.1% of the population.
        
        Maybe you missed that?
        
        you say 96.7%
        
        I think you'll find it's 96.9. Is it a trip to Specsavers or maybe a neurologist?
        
        ihfree on 12/08/2022 - 09:46
        
        @sammyla: The same interpretation is in the ABC article but for VIC with roughly a third of deaths being unvaccinated.
        
        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-21/third-of-victorias-20…
        
        It's good to know being woke means you interpret numbers differently to the rest of society.
        
        sammyla on 12/08/2022 - 10:05
        
        +1
        
        @ihfree: hahahah exactly, totally agree thats why a woke person like you always dismiss facts and twist the truth to your support your dumb arguments which i can only laugh at.
        
        VIC dont release vaccination status fool,so you can pull numbers out of your arse and tell everyonw and show who the reay fool is. the fake 1/3 is still smaller than 2/3 hahahahaa
        
        who watches ABC anyway, thats the most woke biased news source, its ok you seem to cant go unwoke. hahahaha
        
        woke mind virus has really stuffed you up!!!
        
        ihfree on 12/08/2022 - 10:31
        
        @sammyla: Another news source. Take your pick.
        
        https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/unvaccinated-patie…
        
        With these news articles, while there may be spin, the raw numbers are available.
        
        This also mirrors what the government says. Choose a report.
        https://www.health.vic.gov.au/media-releases/coronavirus-upd…
        
        The majority of people with COVID-19 who have died during the Delta and Omicron outbreaks were unvaccinated. 49.2 per cent of deaths were in unvaccinated people and a further 8.2 per cent of deaths had received just one dose compared to 2.4 per cent who had received three doses of vaccine.
        
        Pick a source. This isn't a question of spin or political leaning of a news source, this is just looking at raw numbers and calculating a few percentages. The only people who use the raw numbers are numerically illiterate.
        
        Once again, stay woke bro!
        
        sammyla on 12/08/2022 - 11:24
        
        +1
        
        @ihfree: hahaha like i said VIC does not release vaccination status for deaths. its hidden. so dont trust the percentages on publications and certainly not what the media publishes.
        
        so your argument is invalid.
        
        try your next dumb argument. and keep watching ABC.
        
        ihfree on 12/08/2022 - 11:52
        
        @sammyla: They did release stats to the ABC and there are percentages in the old health reports. As previoulsy stated, the ABC are under more scrutiny than any other news organization.
        
        Don't trust government numbers, yet you've used them to back your arguments. If you want to question the accuracy of the data now - that's a different argument entirely and now also you going back on your own arguments. You certainly are a strange one. 7/7 for the mental gymnastics.
        
        The numbers are released in NSW and back the vaccines working.
        
        There are plenty of articles that explain what should be simply common sense.
        
        https://theconversation.com/covid-death-data-can-be-shared-t…
        
        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-compare-co…
        
        I'm glad there are people out there like you who see through the numbers. Stay woke bro!
        
        sammyla on 12/08/2022 - 12:27
        
        +1
        
        @ihfree: are you insane? why would the VIC government withold that data? but release it to ABC? really? and you want me to believe that would be accurate?? hahaha come on dude ar you for real? i have no option but to trust or assume the government stats are true in reality they are never 100% true.
        
        mental gymnastics - that term you uses many times because you cant debunk my arguments or facts.hahaha
        
        media is always biased, ABC is heavily left leaning, dont even argue on that.
        
        oh really?The numbers are released in NSW and back the vaccines working?? - yeah of course its working, thats why majority of the dead are vaccinated in NSW. out of 200 people dead 85% were vaccinated enough said lol and 85 are aged care residents.
        
        Conversation -another heavily left leaning woke publication
        
        you are some ultra woke leftie arent you? at least try to be centre left fool
        
        ihfree on 12/08/2022 - 15:51
        
        @sammyla:
        
        why would the VIC government withold that data? but release it to ABC? really?
        
        Not all data is publicly available by default or activlty withheld. For example:
        
        Government departments and companies often have relationships with the press.
        
        Some data requires an FOI request
        
        that term you uses many times because you cant debunk my arguments or facts.
        
        It's not my fault you're slow. Let's try a car analogy.
        
        If there are two models of car - say car A and car B. There are 9690 of car A with a fault that results in 85 deaths and 310 of car B with a fault that results in 15 deaths. Which car do you think is safer?
        
        sammyla on 12/08/2022 - 16:05
        
        +1
        
        @ihfree: ok stop talking gibberish now, stay on topic. why would NSW government release them and not the VIC government? nothing to hide i suppose?
        
        there is no need to submit a FOI to get important information related to a very safe medical procedure. there is absolutely no need.
        
        there are 200 people dead and 85 of them are aged care residents
        
        out of 200 dead
        85% are vaccinated
        15% are not vaccinated
        
        This is the same situation on every data release out of NSW
        
        why did more vaccinated people die but less unvaccinated people die?
        
        you cannot use the car analogy here sorry we are using a data set so have to stick to that data set.you cannot draw comparison from totally unrelated data sets which has no connection whatsoever.
        
        but of course any idiot would understand what case is safer but that does not in any way debunk my numbers lol.
        
        keept trying but hahaha
        
        ihfree on 12/08/2022 - 16:11
        
        @sammyla:
        
        But that is information that “requires manpower” to gather, Lara Herrero an associate professor of virology and infectious disease at Griffith University says.
        
        It's from a leftie news source, but to quote QLD's reason -
        
        https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/22/plea-…
        
        If there are two models of car - say car A and car B. There are 9690 of car A with a fault that results in 85 deaths and 310 of car B with a fault that results in 15 deaths. Which car do you think is safer?
        
        Could you answer my car analogy? pretend it's unrelated for a second?
        
        why did more vaccinated people die but less unvaccinated people die?
        
        15% of deaths from 3.1% of the population. That's not really hard to understand and clearly spelled out everywhere. You'd have to be absolutely thick to not understand that.
        
        sammyla on 12/08/2022 - 16:16
        
        +1
        
        @ihfree: first you answer my question without dodging
        
        out of 200 dead
        85% are vaccinated
        15% are not vaccinated
        
        This is the same situation on every data release out of NSW, yes every data release is the same
        
        why did more vaccinated people die but less unvaccinated people die?
        
        Also i know you are foolish but all these covid deaths are DIED WITH.which means these are people with commodities hahaha though i should remind you that.
        
        ihfree on 12/08/2022 - 16:25
        
        @sammyla: How am I dodging?
        
        85% of deaths come from 96.9% of the population and 15% of deaths come from 3.1% of the population. The virus is killing less people per capita in the vaccinated population which shows the vaccine is effective. That's the correct way to look at the data - you'd have to be dense to interpret it as simply more people died who are vaccinated.
        
        Are you that slow?
        
        ihfree on 12/08/2022 - 16:51
        
        @sammyla: Let's try another common-sense scenario.
        
        More people die in car crashes than motorcycle crashes. Are motorcycles safer than cars?
      - infinite on 09/08/2022 - 21:44
        
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        @jv: Dying with Covid vs dying of Covid are different things. We have so few people dying directly of Covid, the authorities simply just report deaths with Covid.
shanlee on 09/08/2022 - 12:09

-3

I don't see many wearing mask now a days.. even if someone wear one, people look at you so weirdly, the next time you don't want to wear a mask.
- nicholasv on 09/08/2022 - 12:16
  
  +11
  
  If I have symptoms then I won't be bothered by a few weird looks. Knowing that I am protecting my community is much more important to me
  - superforever on 09/08/2022 - 12:31
    
    +3
    
    If I have symptoms then I won't be bothered by a few weird looks.
    
    Yes but without symptoms why wear?
    - shanlee on 09/08/2022 - 12:34
      
      +9
      
      to protect urself from others who aren't bothered about protecting the community
      - superforever on 09/08/2022 - 12:36
        
        @shanlee: In that case, we have to wear mask all the time during flu season?

This was posted 1 year 8 months 24 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

[VIC] Free N95 and KN95 Masks to Victorians Who Takes a RAT/PCR Test

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