Keep eyes on unifi dream machine pro for a while.
Found this deal but don’t know if it’s real deal or price error.
Other places sale for $689 @ umart or wireless1
Note: Careful the title on Catch refers to the Unifi Dream Machine router which is the cylinder looking one, as well as UDM-AU being its product code. However item description and image does show the UDM Pro
7 available at this price, looks good
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/706289
$497 in june
PS what do people use these for mostly
I was thinking just for the camera support
I use mine to handle my 1000/50 internet connection, run my Unifi APs, connect to large capacity switches over SFP, and other pro-sumer features like firewall, IPv6, etc. You get do a lot of this for a lot less but the UDM Pro puts it all in a neat dedicated box.
I think it only runs the Ubiquiti cameras which are overpriced and somewhat unreliable in my opinion.
It's a great machine for everything else though.
The newest updates over the last year or so have made this box even more brilliant for blocking apps/web sites on schedule, for certain devices etc, bandwidth control. I don't want to say "Parental Controls" as this is actually quite a commercial machine but one of the best I know now for keeping prying eyes off questionable content.
Better off with an NVR. Ubiquiti routing isn't that great. I was watching a YouTube video the other day from a guy who installed 1000s of ubiquiti sites with up to 400 APs per site. His advice was avoid ubiquiti for routing. Great APs and switches but terrible routing.
Were the issues anything that’ll impact a home with 1-3 AP’s in any meaningful way, or even a small business with maybe a few more?
I mean large scale enterprise deployments likely spanning sites is pretty different to dropping these in a home or small office. Given the poor redundancy capabilities I’m not sure I’d want Ubiquiti DMP’s in that environment either. Last I checked the controllers still not highly available with this gear other than them supporting power redundancy.
Not sure. They just said the way you set stuff up was weird and limited. And also they said there was an almost complete lack of any VPN support. Like the reply from knk below I use Mikrotik for routing and unifi for APs. I dislike unifi for its apple like interface. I think they spent too much time making a slick interface. Mikrotik looks like something from the 90s, which is the way it should be. Some people complain it looks old fashioned but it's a router, with Cisco you probably just get a CLI
@MikeKulls: Lol, 2 downvotes from Apple fanboys. I didn't say Apple was bad as such, I just said an apple like interface doesn't belong on network equipment.
+1, traffic management / routing on these is shit. I use Mikrotik for this in my business
Their wifi gear isn't bad for the price though and I do use it from time to time.
+1 on shit routing and firewall
+1 for mikrotik. I have quite a few of them. One for my main router, one at the front gate to run a camera, several up on father in laws block for cameras and 2 for my caravan (SXT and an old 951)
You still need a Dream Machine 2 for the cameras I believe. Not sure if there is another option for the Unifi cameras (outside DM) but I know you need Unifi hardware to run them.
Dream Machine 2? Both UDM Pro and UDM Pro SE as well as Cloud Key Gen 2+ all have the "Protect" app for the cameras as a secondary function whereas Network Video Recorder and Pro are dedicated I think.
Not sure what a Dream Machine 2 is but I'm not 100% on their equipment.
I got one a few years ago to replace a few standalone devices and standardize on Ubiquiti gateway/switching, AP's and cameras. Honestly its been brilliant with no issues and months of uptime. I don't know about some of these comments but whilst I do agree its not a cheap option to go Ubiquiti cameras, I've found them all very reliable with not 1 going faulty after years of being used and the inbuilt NVR works great. I'd recommend.
If you want some good advice on Ubiquiti gear and setup in general check out Crosstalk Solutions on YouTube.
Bandwidth wise, is Pro better or the wifi dream machine?
Only if you want to enable IPS. I believe the Wifi does 850Mpbs and Pro does 3.5Gbps with IPS enabled. With it disabled either will be fine.
thanks, might go for Pro then.
I'm on 100/40 and works at full speed on UDM. This would be good if you had 1,000mb line (fibre +$$$$) but otherwise, not worth the extra really.
The ONE thing I am looking for that my UDM does not do, is failover, but I believe this unit does not do it either as it requires a specific module that only works with one US telco … shame really. I just manually swap when needed
I have the non pro and with everything turned on I still get my full speed of my 1000/50 line (which is 980 odd)
If you have all the security features turned on, the UDM Pro can go full gigabit speeds, where as the regular UDM maxes out at about 800mbps.
FWIW I just upgraded from a UDM to UDM pro because I got FTTP 1000/50 installed and it’s great having the Pro. It handles the speed yes, but having it rack mounted and all neat is awesome.
yeah, planning to get 1GB plan too and mounting on rack so I think Pro would suit better, thanks for info.
I have the regular UDM and I get 980 down on my 1000 line with everything turned on just FYI and a mate with the same setup does low 900's but it's his max without the UDM anyway so no impact to speed on the 1000 lines.
Plus the pro has a 10G SFP+ Port for expansion. The SE version also has poe ports, FWIW. Personally I prefer separate devices, but I do like the pro se.
i got the SE myself for the poe
There is a Catch 10% GC discount going at Aus Post bring down the price further.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/718425
the v1 doesn’t do POE.
Wow, seriously? That seems like a huge shortfall for its market.
Have to get the Special Edition for PoE.
Yep, a very large oversight. The v2 / SE does POE but costs a bit more.
I'm running an Edgerouter X SFP, Cloud Key Gen 2 and a couple of APs (one with an injector) and it all works nicely now, but it's overly complicated. I can see myself going to Dream Machine setup in future but needs to be a PoE model.
Careful the title on Catch refers to the Unifi Dream Machine router which is the cylinder looking one, as well as UDM-AU being its product code. However item description and image does show the UDM Pro
I placed order but it has been canceled after 30 mins. Does anyone have the same issues?
unless you are comfortable with pfSense, the UDM-PRO / SEs are probably the best prosumer grade routers out there.
Pfsesne for the ultra prosumers
I agree. Over the years I ended up going through pfsense, then to Sophos UTM and then eventually TO the UDM Pro. No regrets at all, it works and does a good job.
What do you mean "SEs"?
UDM SE
Have been eyeing off upgrading Asus AC68u. Struggles on 1000/50 plan and dropped to 400/50 currently. Was eyeing the UDM but not sure if it can handle it. Space is an issue as I currently have it sitting on my desktop tower. I was thinking the UDM or AX86u from Asus would be likely good upgrades. is there anything else that handles 1000/50 with ease with the ability to have good control over their network?
I do this just fine kn the 1000/50 link on my regular UDM, everything on I still do over 900 down. If you want to rack mount go the pro (there are other benefits too), if you want Poe go pro se
Also want something that is going to be able to QoS traffic nicely on a 1000/50 plan, include wifi 6 if possible and give the ability to force redirect hardcoded dns traffic as I got some local piholes on my network
note that these udm pro/se has a 1gbps switch-routing backpane.
anything going between routing and those ethernet switch ports has a 1gbps cap (e.g. inter-vlan traffic)
Probably not a price error, just a good deal. Was $533 in March 2022 recently at https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/689028