Hi all, probably a silly question but I've never bought a new car before so hoping someone with experience can chime in.
Put down a deposit for a new car, told wait could by 8-12 months. On the contact the reference number for the vehicle is a bunch of letters with 2022 at the end. Am I right in assuming if I get the car mid 2023, it will be 2023 model?
Hope so mate, hate to wait a year only to get last (this) year's model.
What car is it, is it due for a model change in 2023?…
Sportage. The 2023 model is available to order in the US.
@childchance: Don't be fooled by what you hear from the US. The US have a stupid system where they call the current year model the next year. so when they say 2023, they actually mean 2022.
I just looked up the sportage, and it only recently had a major update(to the 5th gen) so I doubt they will make any changes from 2022 and 2023.
@Broke-Ken: US new model year starts October 1st of the preceding year.It has been that way since WW11.
@Hackney: Thanks, I've learnt something new myself!
So all those complaints I've heard about this future dated cars only applies to the 4 month period between Oct to Dec.
What ever you want or require, get it on the contract. If the vehicle is 8 to 12 months away, get it in the contract that you want the MY at the time of deliver. If it is not delivered until 2023, then it will need to be a 2023MY.
There is a really good chance that if you are not getting it until mid 2023, it is not going to be an old stock unit. The whole reason you are on a waitlist is because there is no stock to sell you at the moment.
Yeah lesson learnt, got pressured into placing a $500 deposit on the spot with the salesperson asking me to lock in this price as it will rise by a thousand in the coming month, and with the current wait time I'll probably get a MY2023 at the current price. Worst case if the new model is better, I will forego the deposit and place another order.
You certain there's nothing in the contract that let's them raise the price before they give it to you? A lot can happen in 8-12 months.
Yep, there is no way a dealer is going to eat a $2,000 price rise on a vehicle over the next 8~12 months because OP put a deposit on it right then.
You did get that written into the contract didn’t you OP? Or did you just accept the salesman’s word for it?
@pegaxs: Only special condition is we can have our pick of the colours :'(
But the contract did have the price less our deposit, is that what you're referring to?
That $500 deposit should (hopefully) be refundable.
As you will have a 8-12 month wait time on your car, I would advise checking out some car brokers to see if they can get you a better price, colour of your choice & shorter wait time. If they can't, at least you are currently on the wait list.
Good idea! Dealer told me deposit is non-refundable, but if there's a better deal I'll go for it.
I would have thought it was more important to have the build date as 2023?
It really depends. You can have a 23MY vehicle that has a 22 build date, and you could also have a 22MY with a build date in 23.
MY denotes the latest version, build date just means the date when the vehicle completed its build.
A car could sit around at a car holding yard or on the docks for months at a time and be a 22MY, but not be compliance plated and have its final build completed until then, and if that isn’t until 23, it would have a “build date” of 23 but would be a 22MY.
As I said, it’s highly unlikely OP would be getting a 22MY considering they have a 8~12 month wait on new cars. I can’t see them having 22MY vehicle left, or OP would be getting one sooner.
Build date is when a car is built, not when it is registered. Build date is stamped on the chassis at the factory and is the most important date to look at when buying/selling a car.
Your car will be the latest built at the time of arrival
It's not like they're still building 2022 spec at the same time as 2023 spec (assuming different spec)…
As a dealer Spacky, what do you tell customers if there is an ‘all new’ model coming in 6months as opposed to a MY minor update?
For example I want to order today. Do you close the books on the 22 model and start taking deposits on a car that’s only a marketing brochure and won’t arrive until early 23?
I’m going to assume the don’t keep the factory rolling on 22 models and delay making the all new version.
Some of our cars have 2+ year wait times. We have specific forms the customer signs to acknowledge that the final price might vary, as well as final spec
I've even heard of some dealers now being really lax about their contracts (no/low deposit, no estimated delivery date) as the contracts aren't as concrete as they used to be
Thanks. My question was hoping for some insight into what happens with a completely new model, not a mid life upgrade.
Eg the new ranger is out. Launched a few weeks ago. I’ve seen a few on the roads already. At some point did dealers say, “sorry no more 21 model left, you can order a new one sight unseen or will have to wait til August”
@Euphemistic: Yeah always taking pre-orders on new models (bz4x, gr86, Corolla cross etc). Always has a bunch of conditions on it until spec/pricing is out
@spackbace: Do you often have to tell people ‘sorry, no Camry/corolla/hiking available until the new one is ready’
@Euphemistic: Nope, very rarely lately have we gone through whole new models. Landcruiser was the only one, but there was a 6+ month gap between
Just read the contract. Yes they can increase price if RRP of vehicle increases, but will have to provide written notice and I can rescind and get my deposit back within 3 days. Bummer got shafted.
And yes, low $500 deposit, estimate delivery date blank. He did say if it's more than his estimate (8-12 months) we can rescind but again, verbal.
We'll see in 12 months time, worst case I don't want it and lose $500.
For anyone interested, also took a look at Lexus NX 450h+, wait list was 3 years and $2k deposit!!!! Yeah, nah.
There are 3 dates associated with your new vehicle purchase.
Earliest date is Manufactured Date, complete and driven off the assembly line.
Next is Australian Compliance date.
Last is date of first Registration.
These last two dates will apply after your vehicle is landed and then at your dealership.
This will determine your build / model and month / year.
Might wanna check your comments there…
This will determine your build / model and month / year.
Build date will determine this, not when it arrives at the dealership
Also, Compliance Plates aren't a thing any more (as they don't mean shit anyway)
Just rechecked on the 2018 jobby outside, all that info is relevant and there.
4yo we had Compliance Plates, but they've phased them out over the last 12 months
Go try to find one on a new car, then come back to me
You might just have something there.
Checked a 05/2021, and both plates were there. Also a 05/22 and could not see the Compliance Plate or Sticker…. different breed of vehicle so still checking on this further.
Besides all this, my answer does answer for the OP. The Manufacture plate will show build M/Y, and given nil stock - awaiting stock to arrive in Oz, his vehicle will be as new and current as possible, barring shipping a month or two until Compliance.
But now, I just gotta keep checking until I become a believer.
From 1 July 2021, new Commonwealth legislation the Road Vehicle Standards Act 2018 for road vehicles will commence, phasing out compliance plates for new vehicles, establishing an online Register of Approved Vehicles (RAV) and requiring new and imported vehicles to display a Secure Vehicle Identification label (SVI).
Basically just a QR code
Thanks for the info. Cheers.
Just picked up a new Navara, you were spot on.
A paper note of Compliance only from Nissan and AU Gov. This is a step backwards I feel.
Why? Compliance means nothing, never really has. You used to have Euro cars with almost a year between build and compliance because they sat on the wharf for that long, unsold
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Likely.