Received a call from someone telling me I called them.. but didn’t?

Ok - here is the breakdown

  • Lady calls me and tells me that I had a missed call from her. Her number wasn’t on private.

  • I was confused and checked my call history, and confirmed I didn’t call her. I asked her to send me a screenshot of the missed call message

  • got off the phone, she texted me the photo with the message saying that she had a missed call @ 12:12 from my number. IT WAS MY BLOODY NUMBER.

Wtf is going on here. Do I need to call Telstra about this?

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        • +2

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          • @2024: Second part was a joke, but I really did get called by my own number.

            • @Massive Flog: I know - so was mine. But the fact we’ve had to explain that they were indeed jokes means we’ve missed the mark today

  • Happened to me a few times. I've returned calls to random Aussies who claim they never called me.
    Also received texts out of nowhere from people telling me to (profanity) off and stop calling them lol.

  • +1

    Apart from scammers, sites like prankdial can spoof your number with hilarious reactions…
    https://www.prankdial.com/reactions/X1LPoKXa31

  • Yes has happened to me twice this year. Both times it sounds like some absolute bogan/moron whom scammers would target.

  • +2

    My mum had a spoofed call use my number.
    Those scammers got an ear full of "good for nothing, lazy, useless, son".
    And it saved me a Mother's Day call.

  • Maybe it is just a cycle thing but the amount of missed 'scam calls' have significantly increased for me lately. On both my personal and work numbers. Probably 3-4 everyday for past week vs maybe 1-2 for a whole week previously. Starbge that both numbers have increased at the same time…

    I haven't been entering any competitions, freebies or filling out contact forms.

    I assume it is just one of the MANY data breaches that are becoming too frequent lately…

  • This one gave me a good laugh.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZKoCeaoYKU

  • Now that phones don’t have keyboards, you can’t butt-dial anyone anymore. Such a shame…

  • It happened to me once before. We were both quite confused and thought it was strange but left it at that.

    • its funny when you tell them your number has been spoofed and theyre like ' whats that…?' google it bro…google it

  • +1

    I am interested in understanding the mechanism that allows the number spoofing.

    I would expect (correct me if I am wrong) if the call is coming from an overseas telephone network it would be prefixed with the country of origin's country code. Since this is not occurring, I expect the spoofers are using VOIP services to originate the calls in Australia.

    That raises the question why there isn't more regulation (with associated penalties) to prevent Australian VOIP providers from using numbers that are already allocated. If that doesn't exist, it should. I am guessing there is no such requirement at the moment and hence the problem we are all experiencing. Perhaps if we all lodged a complaint with the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman (https://www.tio.com.au) we may see some investigation into this. Like the telcos themselves, I think consumers lack of motivation to raise the issue is why the issue isn't being addressed.

    I have experienced a large increase in scam calls to landline and mobile numbers in the last 2 months. I am receiving 5+ calls to my landline numbers each day, Monday-Friday. Interestingly, it doesn't occur on weekends. Perhaps the white collar scammers in India also don't work Saturday and Sundays :-) . On my mobile number I am receiving about 5 to 8 calls a week.

    • I would have to agree with you. Stupid we don't have regulations around this but then I guess we outsource everything to India so that might become a problem. After adding telstra began to filter my service, I haven't been getting spam calls (1 full day). Will keep everyone posted.

    • Not really sure how it works technically, but I know there is software that let you enter any number to use as your number when making a voip call. Pranksters use those to call someone using their partner’s number of example.
      Look up ‘ownage pranks hostage’ on youtube and you’ll know exactly what I mean.
      So doubt TIO can do anything about that.

    • +1

      I would expect (correct me if I am wrong) if the call is coming from an overseas telephone network it would be prefixed with the country of origin's country code. Since this is not occurring, I expect the spoofers are using VOIP services to originate the calls in Australia.

      You are wrong.

      What you are suggesting would mean that when you used your Australian mobile in America that the displayed caller ID would be something like
      +1 61 41xxx
      or
      +1 41xxxx

      Neither of those are valid or will reach your mobile if called.

      CLI overstamping (which is what scammers are doing) is perfectly legitimate and has real world uses.
      For example your bank might have a call centre in the Philippines.
      If your bank called you from a +63 number you might not answer because you think it is a scam and you probably definitely wouldn't call back because of the call costs.
      CLI overstamping allows your bank to have calls from their Philippines call centre display an Australian number which will also connect you back to the overseas call centre for the cost of a local/national call.

      Any reputable VoIP provider will verify that you have ownership of the DID you want to use for CLI overstamping however the scammers just need to use one who does not check.
      They would not be using a VoIP service originating in Australia.

      • Thankyou spaceflight for taking the time to explain how it works.

    • +1

      I would expect (correct me if I am wrong) if the call is coming from an overseas telephone network it would be prefixed with the country of origin's country code. Since this is not occurring, I expect the spoofers are using VOIP services to originate the calls in Australia.

      no, it shows whatever number you like, as spaceflight suggested reputable VOIP providers don't let you stamp DID's you don't own. If you think about it, foreign numbers have to be able to stamp local numbers, one of the whole points of this is that international call centres, follow the sun setups can have a call id set to a local number so that the person can return calls without incurring huge international costs.

  • Have had the exact same thing happen to me. Annoying.

  • Ive been on the other end. Called back to a missed call and they had nfi what I was talking about when i said the time they said it was a point where the place they work mandates phones are turned off. Figure it was a spoofed number by a spam caller

  • happened to me too one time, they said that i called them and they showed a screen shot of their call list with my number. i thought it was a scam at first but in the end i believed him so im pretty sure it was someone spoofing my number.

  • seems to me if I answer such a spoofed call I'm likely to keep receiving 2 a day

    if I don't pick up unknown numbers, the spoofed calls seem to stop

    so short answer may be - don't answer unknown callers.

    if they really want to speak to you they'll call again (I think spoof numbers usually don't call again from the same spoofed number?)

    or leave a message or sms.

  • I used to get them all the time until I switched to Apple. 😂😳🤪

  • This is called spoofing
    Nothing you can do about it
    scammers are using this new tactic
    You can send message or email from any address

  • +1

    Same thing happened to me yesterday!

    It was pretty awkward when I said I didn't call them. They were just like "🤷‍♂️ ok then… Bye!"

  • +1

    A scammer spoofed my number. The lady he called rang me back, berating me saying that she's calling the police and reporting me.

    • Yeah that’s shit. That’s one thing that worries me is you might get a person one day actually complaining to the telcos and taking it to the police.

      • Would have to be something extremely bad for telcos or the police to act. The sheer amount of spam calls going out it'd be impossible to do anything about it even if they wanted to.

  • +1

    This happened to me yesterday. Had a good chat with the caller who told me I called him. I suspected that I pocket dialled him. Nope, call history blank for his number.
    I should have known to check Oz Bargain for this topic. Oz Bargain covers everything in its forums. lol

  • Back in the day I could send gateway sms online and spoof it to say any text or a phone number.

    Those were the days.

  • Just got this right now. Some random person called me saying missed call, they asked "who is this?" but i just said nope wasn't me.

    I bet it is related to the Chinese spam robocalls that I randomly get. These days I tend to not bother answering my phone unless it's a contact. If it's important someone will leave me a message.

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