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Philips Master LED GU5.3 MR16 10 Watt for $42.95 + PH

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Philips Master LED GU5.3 MR16 10 Watt for $42.95 + PH
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Lenergyconsciousness on 13/06/2012 - 15:07 negergy.com.au (351 clicks)
Last edited 13/06/2012 - 15:14

RRP $59.95 Currently $42.95 for Queens Birthday Sale. Free Postage for orders over $100.

•Cap-Base GU5.3 Bulb MR16 (this is the widely used ‘two pin’ halogen fitting and lamp - see picture above)
•Average Lifetime 30000 hr (20 years at 4 hours per day)
•Wattage Technical 10.0 W (an 80% energy saving)
•Voltage 12 V

Not convinced these LED’s really are as simple, easy-to-install and effective as outlined here? You can order one to test in your home or workplace 100% risk free.
After ordering your lamps, if you are unsatisfied in anyway, simply send the unit back to us within 40 days. We’ll refund your order in full plus an additional $5 for your trouble.
Full Details and Specs of the downlights are on the site. Hope this is useful for others!

Please use this referral link if you interested: http://www.curebit.com/x/SfhE0
As they will give me cash back on my purchase for referrals. If you don’t like the idea, feel free to use the direct link above (this complies with posting guidelines) I am just happy to share this deal with everyone.

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  • uraha on 13/06/2012 - 15:13

    wait what? These last 10,000 hours and are dim but buy Philips because of the brand?

    • energyconsciousness on 13/06/2012 - 15:16
      +1

      Sorry had copied the wrong part of the advertisment. That was refering to other cheap LED downlights.
      Fixed it now. Its my first post on OzBargin, :)

      • uraha on 13/06/2012 - 15:17

        :D

  • theblake on 13/06/2012 - 15:18
    +1

    I am a bit confused, how many bulbs do you get for $42.95?

    • foobar on 13/06/2012 - 15:20
      +1

      I was wondering this too, it's just the one by the looks of it. They would want to be something special wouldn't they!

      • energyconsciousness on 13/06/2012 - 15:22

        $42.95 for one LED downlight. They are meant to last 30 000hours, which is 20 years at 4hrs a day.

        • foobar on 13/06/2012 - 15:26
          +2

          I've had Philips CFL's that were "meant to" last some ridiculous amount of time that were dead within a year. Some might last the quoted time, some might last 10 minutes.

          For that price per unit I'd want at least a 10 year replacement guarantee from Philips.

        • StewBalls on 13/06/2012 - 15:28

          Typical Savings: $26 per year per light

          How many hours per day & compared to what is that based on?

          They are meant to last 30 000hours, which is 20 years at 4hrs a day.
          2 Year Warranty

          I hate to be nit-picky, but WTF???

        • NigelTufnel on 13/06/2012 - 15:51

          On my calculations, assuming usage of 4 hours/day, 25c/kwh energy prices, and assuming it's about equivalent to a 60W (approximately 800 lumen) halogen bulb. The cost saving would be just under $20/year.

          So essentially, if you replace your halogen bulbs more than once every 2 years you may be better off with this bulb…

          But considering the price of this type of bulb may go down within those 2 years… that changes things considerably.

          Still don't see how these can be a good deal.

        • lplau on 13/06/2012 - 21:13
          +3

          maybe you can get it replaced under statuary warranty, since it says "Average Lifetime 30000 hr (20 years at 4 hours per day)".

          Therefore you would reasonably expect it to last more than 10 years.

          http://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/shopping/warranties/warranty-…

          http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/815360#toc…

        • bamzero on 14/06/2012 - 14:49

          I've been in my house over 6 years now, and have had to replace 1 halogen downlight in that time.. considering a new bulb can be had for $1 these days, LED MR16s arent that cost effective for me yet.

          It should be noted that this Philips listed is a 36 degree beam angle as well, so unless you've got these over a bench, not that suitable for general lighting.

  • kumak on 13/06/2012 - 15:19
    +1

    I think I saw this LED for around $30 at The Masters when I went there last weekend.

  • ca6leguy on 13/06/2012 - 15:19
    +1

    What the!!

  • StewBalls on 13/06/2012 - 15:21

    How much is shipping?

    I ask because I've noticed that you have them on your ebay listing for AU$43.95 with free shipping!

    • energyconsciousness on 13/06/2012 - 15:26
      -1

      I am not associated with the company, i just bought some off them. Oh i see the similiar name, lol energyconsciousness -> negergy
      I paid $9 postage for 2 of these through the website. But they offer free postage for orders over $100 (3 or more).

  • cashless on 13/06/2012 - 15:26
    +3

    At $40 more than a halogen, there is a lot of "lights on" time to get through before you see any savings. Bit like buying a diesel car…….

  • NigelTufnel on 13/06/2012 - 15:28

    They last 20 years at 4 hours per day…
    So are we expected to kit out our homes with these and then strip the house of lightbulbs every time we move so that we have any chance of getting some sort of saving from this bulb??

    Who buys these things?

    ALthough you could just get a few cheap weeks of lighting and send it back within 40 days… (hopefully the $5 covers the PH) but hardly seems worth it :P

  • superforever on 13/06/2012 - 15:31

    I think LED on eBay is a lot cheaper.

    • foobar on 13/06/2012 - 15:36
      +2

      True but there's some utter rubbish out there, hard to find good and cheap LED's.

      • sahat on 13/06/2012 - 16:35

        Don't buy SMD type led, it worse than CFL and consume more power. Choose a Luxeon or Cree led type.
        The main problem is not on the led because the led may last more than 10K hours, but the electronic circuit might fail before that.

        • lplau on 13/06/2012 - 21:13

          Epistar ones are pretty good.

  • tsunamisurfer on 13/06/2012 - 15:37
    +1

    LED downlights are improving but not up to scratch in price or brightness right now.

    Just wait and stay with Halo for now unfortunately.

    • energyconsciousness on 13/06/2012 - 15:46

      Thats why I am testing out two of these for now, in a high traffic area where i dont want it very bright.
      I would not retro fit my whole house with these (70 odd downlights).
      But i know some who are doing this, so i thought i would share the deal nonetheless.

      • heatseeker424 on 13/06/2012 - 15:59

        70 odd downlights?
        Do you live at Graceland?

      • cashless on 13/06/2012 - 16:06

        With that many downlights you must have a very hot head

        • energyconsciousness on 13/06/2012 - 16:38

          I am a Registered Building Practioner (domestic builder), so i have a large house :)
          Most of the downlights are for feature - lighting effect, not illumination, eg in bulkheads, in eaves etc.. Half are for main areas lighting. I am slowly changing my downlight to lower watts, less energy consumption.

        • ca6leguy on 13/06/2012 - 17:08
          +1

          What!! There is a GP, now there is a BP.

        • skinny on 13/06/2012 - 20:04

          Is that your house next to the Opera House?

    • moocher on 13/06/2012 - 16:04

      LEDs don't get hot like halogens though.

    • Entropy Reseller on 13/06/2012 - 16:17
      +3

      I have some of these and I can say that I've been very happy with their performance. I am slowly replacing my halogens with these. I am not affiliated with lightglobesonline but they have these for $44 and you only need to buy two to get free shipping. http://www.lightglobesonline.com/en/led/40-led-12v-mr16-phil…

  • Jammar on 13/06/2012 - 16:04

    high traffic area use halogen, $1 a pop from bunnings and you can replace the bulb every day of the month still work out cheaper than buying this.

    high traffic area normally have shorter period lighting requirement.

    if you need to switch it on for a longer period then CFL maybe a better option.

    36 beam angle you will be walking over your shadow the whole night, 60 beam angle are common for home use.

    • LightYear8 on 13/06/2012 - 16:14

      agree. 36 beam angle is annoying. i don't get use to this kind of narrow beam.

    • effgee on 13/06/2012 - 16:35

      there is (now) 60degree option available for pre-order

  • moocher on 13/06/2012 - 16:09

    It looks like negergy also have an ebay store - price is even cheaper there if only buying up to 2 bulbs in warm white. ($43.95 each with free shipping)
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1x-Philips-10-Watt-Master-LED-MR1…

    Edit:
    Cool white also available for $43.95
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1x-Philips-Master-LED-10-Watt-MR1…

  • Entropy Reseller on 13/06/2012 - 16:13
    +2

    There is always a lot of debate about these lights whenever they appear on OzB. I have purchased these in the past and the price has been around this level for a while because there are no serious competitors. This is a niche item and therefore must be considered within this context. So far I have found no other MR16 drop in replacement LEDs that have satisfied me.

    Like energyconsciousness my house has an unusually large number of downlights and although I cannot afford to change all of them in one go, these do exactly what I need them for. There are priority areas that I have used these for and they have been perfect. Recuperating the cost of these against regular MR16 lights over a couple of years is worthwhile in my opinion for my context.

    • rekabkram on 13/06/2012 - 16:49

      But surely you don't have to change all of your lights. If you have say 70 downlights then more than likely ~40 of those are in very high usage areas (dining, lounge and bedrooms) while walk in robes, hallways, laundry and so on wouldn't get close to 4 hours a day making them pointless to get such an expensive light in.
      Not to mention how better lighting in areas like bathrooms and the kitchen is far more preferable then saving a couple of cents a day.

      So should you need a large quantity wouldn't you be better off contacting a lighting supplier and bulk ordering so you could get them a fair bit cheaper?

  • effgee on 13/06/2012 - 16:35

    I'm hanging back on these; The cynic in me says that the 30,000hr life is based on few assumptions about the surrounding temperature that may not stand up in Australia.

    How many CFL's lasted their full rated life ? I've certainly had a few CFL's pop after a couple of hundred hours.

    For the price, Phillips could easily include a microcontroller that counted the hours of use, and warrant them for say 10,000 hrs, ie 7 years at 4hrs/day

  • energyconsciousness on 13/06/2012 - 16:47
    +4

    This was my first Post / bargin. I guess ill have to find a better Bargin to post as my second one. I am new to the site, but like the idea.
    Cheers.

    • sahat on 13/06/2012 - 16:50
      +2

      I think you are doing great especially for your 1st post. Keep up the good work.

    • blah-blah on 13/06/2012 - 17:09

      plus for saving energy :) with carbon tax coming

  • blah-blah on 13/06/2012 - 17:08

    Not that cheap, i have seen this for $44 on another AUS website and i'm sure they had 60 degrees in stock

    60 degrees means the spread of the light, i wouldn't want anything less than 60D as otherwise it is more like a spotlight

    This site is good for other wattages and degrees (VAT removed and cheap postage) : http://www.novelenergylighting.com/led-lamps-bulbs/led-mr16-…

    • altomic on 13/06/2012 - 17:15

      just get higher ceilings.

  • frewer on 13/06/2012 - 17:42

    so what's the differentiated between LED and halogen bulb ?

  • llama on 13/06/2012 - 18:22
    +1

    I am a lighting consultant, and I can assure you that these are an excellent product.

    They use active cooling (a tiny fan) to eliminate the need for a massive heatsink. Due to decent thermal management, the rated life of these will be a hell of a lot more "reliable" than the eBay cheapies that just guess on the life based on nothing whatsoever.

    You get what you pay for with LEDs, and of the true "retrofit" lamps these are probably the best out there. Most people don't buy mobile phones, speakers, TVs and other consumer-grade items based on price ALONE. Same with LEDs :-)

    • StewBalls on 13/06/2012 - 21:59

      They use active cooling (a tiny fan) to eliminate the need for a massive heatsink.

      Just great, a mechanical part to make noise & fail.

    • dragon69 on 13/06/2012 - 22:45
      +1

      I have to agree with llama. We put five of the 3000k globes in our kitchen - they are located over kitchen benches replacing 36o halogens and SWMBO says that she can't tell the difference in light output from the halogens; she does however notice that they are much cooler than halogens on her head - the ceiling in the kitchen is about 8'. They are on for ~14 hours a day and have been in use since January. Until you mentioned they had a fan, I had no idea: just checked them and the fans are inaudible. They are excellent and look reasonably good as well - no fins or anything visible.

      The only thing I had to do was to grind down a bit the three tabs on the metal housing (the ceiling fitting, not the globe) that supports the globe as the globe projects down past the tabs. I can post a photo if you like.

      EDIT: just checked my invoice - I paid $46.95 + $7.90 postage back in January. I'd probably go for the 10-pack of theirs on ebay for $400 incl free postage.

  • RickOnOzBargain on 13/06/2012 - 18:44
    +1

    I'd recommend you try these out instead…
    $12.50 http://www.energysaver.net.au/supreme-mr16-downlight-cool-wh…
    and the transformers (if you need them)
    $6.95 http://www.energysaver.net.au/transformer-c-11_14.html
    are good too.

    I have been searching for a Halogen replacement for about 5 years.
    This is the first one that meets my needs. Easily replaces a 50W halogen.
    Is approved in colour and light level by my wife and has a beam that is
    at least as wide in use as a "60deg 50W Halogen".

    By my maths… (I'm on NSW "PowerSmart" electricity prices)
    Peak cost (2pm-8pm) is 44.66c/kW. (going up another 21% on 1 July!?)

    Saving for an LED/Transformer versus
    my current 50W Halogen plus iron transformer (14w),
    is >56W! See metering photos/results here… http://goo.gl/KZqy0

    So… 1000kW/56W = about 18 hours to save 1Kw = 44.66c
    Bulb plus transformer = $12.50 + $6.95 = $19.45
    How long to get your money back?
    $19.45/44.66c*18hours = Less than 800 hours of usage.

    As little as 200 days to break even.
    Or closer to 400 days if you use light
    only during shoulder times 8pm-12midnight.

    • POWERevolution on 13/06/2012 - 20:02

      See metering photos/results here… http://goo.gl/KZqy0

      Sorry, that page was not found.

    • skatoz on 14/06/2012 - 11:16

      How much was the shipping?

      Have you also tried the warm white ones: http://www.energysaver.net.au/supreme-mr16-downlight-warm-wh…
      They seem to be 420LM instead of 500LM.

      I've previously tested some $5 "Halogen replacement" LEDs from China but got disappointed by - Cold colour (claimed to be warm white), low luminance (about half of my 50W halogen), and much narrower lens angle.

      • skatoz on 14/06/2012 - 12:11

        Just answering my own question - the shipping is $9 at the moment: http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/69331

      • skatoz on 14/06/2012 - 12:11

        Just answering my own question - the shipping is $9 at the moment: http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/69331

      • skatoz on 14/06/2012 - 12:11

        Just answering my own question - the shipping is $9 at the moment: http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/69331

      • RickOnOzBargain on 14/06/2012 - 13:20
        +1

        I dropped in to pick mine up. (They are kinda near Costco, NSW)
        So, no postage for me.

        My wife requires our place resemble a 7-11 :( ,
        so only Cool white ones purchased so far.
        But I'm guessing if they are 20% less bright they'll be
        fine for people that like that kind of light.
        I will be getting some "Warm" for my Mum's place.
        I'll report back sometime.

        • skatoz on 19/06/2012 - 01:20

          Thanks heaps. I bought a few and I have to say I am very pleased. The warm-white colour is about the same as halogen. The lens angle about the same, maybe even wider. Luminance is probably about 70-80% of halogen.

          Wish they could make the price even more attractive (like $7-8).

  • SrMoure on 13/06/2012 - 21:55
    +1

    $42 for ONE light bulb with no 5/10 years warranty doesn't look like a bargain to me.

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