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  CodeXD on 19/09/2022 - 12:13

  +4

  Make sure you have your money back and then cut off all communications with the seller.

  How long has it been since you paid?

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    Ataskuri on 19/09/2022 - 12:15

    im not the kind to be a dick so to be honest i dont mind returning their account and just finding a more legitimate one, its been a couple of days over the weekend

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      CodeXD on 19/09/2022 - 12:17

      +9

      I'm not saying to be a dick, the seller can just change password and you'll lose access to the account.

      The issue here is seller's account has been flagged by paypal for fraud so paypal will be combing through the account as well as IP address. If you resend the money, there's a chance your account will be flagged too.

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        Ataskuri on 19/09/2022 - 12:19

        yeah so i dont mind keeping the money but returning him the account, he doesnt seem to want to accept that so its a bit suspicious

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      [Deactivated] on 19/09/2022 - 16:49

      +2

      So you buy stolen accounts, scam PayPal out of fees, take back a gift you've given, and you're worried about being a dick?

      Police won't care, it's a civil matter. It would cost more than the account is worth to sue you, assuming the seller is even in this country.

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      Kail on 19/09/2022 - 17:32

      +2

      There's no such thing as a "legitimate" account, it's against the ToS of pretty much all games to sell accounts. They are usually hacked accounts (i.e. stolen from other players) or botting accounts (i.e. cheating) and your nephew may find it removed from him if the game devs find out. So I wouldn't recommend he put any significant time/effort into the account unless he's prepared to lose it.

      Most games with skins you can just buy the skins or loot boxes etc from the game itself, totally legitimately.

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  vikvance on 19/09/2022 - 12:27

  +6

  The Paypal fraud detection is possibly because the person had a lot of incoming transactions from different people, and isn't necessarily proof that he was scamming people. The high transaction volume is to be expected if the person is a professional seller of MMO gold & accounts.

  That being said, selling accounts is itself dodgy, and it wouldn't be too unexpected if the account was somebody's hacked account rather than a legitimate sale. It all depends, really, on where you found the seller and how much you trust him. That is, how much online rep & past transactions etc he had already had on the place where you found him.

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    toomuchdogfur on 19/09/2022 - 14:01

    +2

    Yeah I reckon PayPal's "suspected fraud" merely means they suspect that the seller is defrauding PayPal of their fees. Sending via "Friends & Family" doesn't charge fees, but if you're selling something then the seller is supposed to have a business account so PayPal can collect their 3%.

    Personally I'd send the account details back to the seller and block them. Your hands are clean.

    they have threatened to file a police report and go to court

    lol sure they would. IMO the fact that the seller is using PayPal instead of Osko/Bank transfer tells me they're not even in the same country anyway.

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      tajid on 19/09/2022 - 16:20

      +1

      Though paypal has no seller protection on digital goods so they have no reason to pay for the 3% fee.

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  burningrage on 19/09/2022 - 13:19

  Apparently selling access is not as uncommon as I thought. This is obviously one example.

  I have heard of people offering to buy your access say $1,500 for access into say unused Wise account (or in this case unused Paypal account) and that account ended up being used to scam people and the original owner became a money-mule.

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  foxmulder on 19/09/2022 - 14:03

  The account and your PayPal is two different thing right? If the account you bought is fine, you change password and email address then you owe the seller the money as PayPal reversed.

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  freefall101 on 19/09/2022 - 14:05

  +4

  Unless you gave old mate your name, address and phone number then the police won't do anything. Even if you did they likely won't do anything, they'll tell them to work it out with Paypal on why the transaction was reversed.

  You offered to return the account, if he doesn't want to take it that's his problem.

  More likely is the accounts being sold are a scam. Unless you've met the seller there's no real evidence they're even in Australia, and it could well be the accounts were hacked or were funded with stolen credit cards (or all those iTunes giftcards to pay tax bills). I'd avoid like the plague.

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  [Deactivated] on 19/09/2022 - 15:18

  +4

  Account buying for video games is often against ToS (I can’t think of a game where it isn’t against ToS) and the game publisher / dev will ban the account if they find out that it was sold

  I would recommend a normal gift

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  garetz on 19/09/2022 - 15:18

  +3

  Do not resend the funds, if paypal thinks the transaction is fraudulent and you send the funds again they may think you are complicit and possibly suspend your account.

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  Daabido on 19/09/2022 - 16:20

  +4

  Last week someone in Victoria was in a shopping centre fender bender and gave someone my number. Back and forth, I said Google my number, you will see that I'm in Qld. Later that night she said she was going to file a police report. I told her to do it. I'm still waiting on the Victorian Police to contact me. Funny that. Police won't be interested in this at all.

  Go to court? People have no f'ing idea.

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    bobbified on 19/09/2022 - 23:05

    +1

    .. and gave someone my number

    It's possible that the phone number is just one digit out from the number it should be. It could be written funny and a digit is being read incorrectly.

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  payless69 on 20/09/2022 - 15:52

  Pay Scam Pal??