Not an all time low but it's the lowest I've seen it for a while. Amazon is a plus too.
CamelCamelCamel.
Even better. good find.
change your deal to that if you want
Is it better though? Isn't Amazon way better with returns?
eBay Plus brings it down to $244 (with the $25 voucher)
Thinking of this or a 1zpresso jxpro or kingrinder k4. Would i be better off with the hand grinder for espresso
I have the commandante grinder and use it daily for espresso, don't have a problem using a hand grinder, it's not too challenging to grind
My biggest complaint about the hand grinders is dialling in for another type of coffee, so I used to have an espresso in the morning and a pour over in the afternoon however I find it painful to switch to the pour over and then find the right grind size for the espresso again
My biggest complaint about the hand grinders is dialling in for another type of coffee
Imagine this with electrical grinder - on top of your problem you have a problem of emptying the hopper, purging the grinder and reloading the hopper with new beans after the adjustment.
Grind quality, 100% yes you would be better off with one of those handgrinders.
Convenience…well that's up to you if it's worth it.
Personally, I would get a J-Max / JX-Pro / K-Max for now (or a Kingrinder - possibly the more value for money pick, but less tried and true), and keep it as a travel grinder when you bite the bullet on a more expensive electric grinder.
Not hating on the SGP - I used one for years, and think it's a good option at its price (better at the old prices!). But I think it's worth saving up for something from the next tier up. If you are considering grinders of the JX-Pro quality, I think you'll want something better than the SGP.
Agree re Kingrinder K6 - loving mine and its external adjustment for switching brew methods.
That's a fair argument but in my opinion convenience plays a huge part.
I used to hand grind for a year or so before moving on to a niche. If I had to choose now between a hand grinder that produces better espresso, or something like the SGP, I would def take the SGP.
That's just me though, and my mornings are usually pretty rushed to get out the door by 7 or so.
Edit: convenience~speed in my comment are interchangeable
I believe I did cover that in my second paragraph. ;)
I acrually did go that way (SGP to Niche), and as I said, for me, 100% I would go with a J-Max over the SGP if I had my time again (for me personally). But absolutely, each to their own (that's precisely what I meant when I mentioned convenience). :)
@caprimulgus: Just wanted to reinforce the speed part, because I feel like it didn't get enough space in your comment. But you're right that it comes down to choice and how you will be using the equipment
@caprimulgus: Picked up the J-Max recently to tie me over with a compak k3 in service and the more I use it the more I think this is the perfect 1st grinder if you don't mind the mild physical activity involved. I thought dialing in would be a problem, but just googled settings and started with that and it was pretty much spot on. It's almost no mess and great if you have limited space. If it's just coffee for 1, I'd say this is the way to go.
What made you upgrade?
@mit: Just to clarify, I upgraded from a SGP to a Niche. I am planning to buy a J-Max eventually, but just haven't gotten around to it yet (covid / lack of travel has reduced my justification for the expense!). :)
What I meant was, if I was starting over now, and couldnt afford spending more than this, I would get a J-Max and use that until I could afford a decent electric grinder (ie. Niche / DF64 / Eureka / Lagom - something of that ilk). Not that any/all of those are necessarily an "upgrade" in quality compared to a J-Max - but upgrade in convenience at the very least.
So yeah, I may have been unclear, but what I meant was I would use the J-Max until I could afford a "better-than-SGP" electric grinder (not necessarily an "upgrade" to the J-Max). More for the convenience! :)
(If you meant why did I upgrade from SGP to Niche - well Niche is much better than the SGP! And it should be, since it cost me 6 times more!) :)
@caprimulgus: Oh my mistake. I read that wrong. SGP to niche is quite the upgrade but I don't think anybody would blame you :)
You won't be disappointed with the J-Max but for travel the Q2 seems good enough if portability is and issue.
I have the manual one 1zpresso. Great product. However if u drink everyday. better just get this brevillo smart. save u energy especially when u try new beans and doing trial n error for grind size
Just make sure u make a good wdt tool.
Gone were the days when it was $150
Yup. 159 ☹️
We all still think of those days..
While you are correct, the lowest it's been in 12 months is $239 according to CCC. Calling it not a good deal at all is a bit much.
Ok maybe it’s a bit much. But at the same time, buy it from BINGLEE is cheaper $244 if you are a eBay plus customer. https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/730793
RogueWolf mentioned that above
It's still a decent deal even if it's not the lowest ever. Even ignoring inflation and thus rising prices in general, the retail price is dramatically higher, and if you've been hanging out for a grinder of this calibre, an extra $40 isn't that bad at all!
Excellent grinder
Excellent? No.
Best for the price? Definitely, without question (if you ignore hand grinders).
I have owned one for 7 years, and still have one in the stable, and for anything coarser than espresso it's objectively fantastic for the price. Particularly at the $150 they used to go for.
Anything espresso wise it is honestly just clumpy, difficult to dial in, full of fines, and impossible to get any consistency shot after shot. Trust me, I tried it all. There is no other electric grinder in its price range that can though, so this is not really a "con" as there are no other (non-manual) alternatives. If you want decent espresso, reach deeper into your pockets for a grinder. Otherwise save your pennies and have far more drinkable coffee from pour over or aeropress or moka pot and leave the fancy boy home espresso to coffee (profanity) like me.
What grind setting do you use for espresso and have you tried adjusting the internal setting with that metal handle thing in the grinder blade area itself?
Disagree with the espresso grind capabilities mentioned. I use the SGP as a single dose grinder and find it great for this use case, I use it purely for espresso
Dialling in process is easy. I've been able to use grind settings between 9-11 consistently depending on bean type and freshness to achieve my ideal 1:1.75 brew ratio. I cycle through beans from about a dozen roasters, and have no issues dialling in by the second shot.
Pro tip, incorporate WDT into your routine and you'll see some better consistency.
+1
I always have, and always will, WDT. That helps with the clumps but does not help with the other issues.
Adjusting the inner burr also helps, but it is just far too inconsistent.
I have 3D printed all sorts of part to try and get around a few of the issues, but none of them solved everything all of the time, every time.
I also used (and still use) it as a single dose grinder and it is great at everything other than espresso, particularly the finicky nature of lighter roasts. Retention is also a little variable, but I just weigh post-dose and I can get around that.
I can get great shots out of it, for sure. But I can't do it time and time again without some level of inconsistency I am happy with. This is not a criticism of the grinder's design - like I said, it is easily the best in its class and arguably the only one in its class - but espresso, or at least my espresso requirements, are not serviceable with this grinder.
Disagree. It's a great grinder for those starting out with a preference for dark roasts.
The grinder works well for espresso. Particularly good even if you are inclined to prefer dark roasts.
The biggest downside is the amount of fines which it produces which is negative for filter when you're trying to manage draw down.
it's other quirks can be solved with little money. Clumping is solved by WDT. Retention by 3d printed bellows.
Question for owners, does anyone know how to remove the grind adjust knob? I accidentally melted ours a bit and have bought a replacement from breville, but can’t get the old one off
Have you emailed Breville. They've been good when I called a while back with a query
Thanks, not yet, will do that
The $249 deal is better for two reasons.
The instructions that come with this grinder say not to fill the hopper with beans that you aren't going to be using later that same day, and to keep the beans in an airtight container away from light. The product photo shows the hopper full of beans, which gives the impression that the hopper is airtight and opaque enough to stop beans from going stale.
They might say that, but who cares? The hopper has a silicone gasket that's reasonably airtight, no other hopper is going to be that much better at keeping your beans fresh.
which gives the impression that the hopper is airtight and opaque enough to stop beans from going stale.
I dont think that is a reasonable inference you are making.
They are specifically telling you not to store excess beans in the hopper, and to keep them in an airtight container. A photo of a full hopper does not imply that the hopper (which they already told you not to store beans in) is such an airtight container - it is just a visual representation of a full hopper…nothing more, nothing less. (ie. It is not a suggestion of how much to fill the hopper.)
If you got that impression, with respect, I think you have drawn a conclusion from the image that is not accurate. :)
I'm not saying that you CAN'T fill the hopper! (Absolutely, you should do whatever works for you!!!) I'm just saying that the image is not contradictory to the advice in the manual, as you are implying. (Maybe that person DOES go through a full hopper in a day!) :)
The Swiss flag is a big plus as well.
For those who purchasing or looking to upgrade.
I've come across that Etzinger burrs are an upgrade path. That may close that itch to upgrade to something like a NZ.
(Etzinger burrs were used for baratza, and baratza is now owned by breville)
Would the Baratza Sette 30 AP be an upgrade?
Yes, but they're known to fail.
I havent bothered looking into it too deeply (already upgraded to Niche, and not looking back!), but my understanding is that the whole Breville range (SGP and built-in grinders) are now shipped with these new Etzinger burrs. They've basically replaced the old burrs with these Etzinger ones, following the Baratza takeover, as a kind of in-production model update. (That might be one factor into why we no longer get the cheap deals on these like we used to!)
Not really much info on how much of an upgrade they are. Seems some people that have successfully upgraded the burrs are pretty happy with them (although, a bunch of people seem to be saying they were unsuccessful in getting them to work!).
I'd imagine they would probably give some level of improvement…but I'm a bit sceptical about how much of a difference they truly make. If it was a massive jump, I would think Breville would release it as a new model, and market it better? (They dont actually sell them as a "burr upgrade" - they are sold simply as a replacement part for the more recent production runs.)
Just my guess. No experience with them, and havent really looked too deeply into it, so take it with a grain of salt, and do your own research into them! :)
tl;dr - my long winded way of saying: sure, it's probably a worthwhile upgrade to get the most out of your SGP, but I'm a bit sceptical about whether it's enough of an upgrade to really stop someone from upgrading to a grinder like a Niche! :)
It doesn't stop there friend. I had the niche for 6 months before I took that plunge for the heycafe h1.
Much prefer the flat burrs.
Now if mob who make the df64/df83 make a 100mm burr grinder for a reasonable price. They got my cash.
How often do you clean outgrinders so asto nit affect the taste of coffee made days after
Just flush by grinding a few beans and throwing away those grinds. Whether the traces that are left affect the taste of coffee, who knows. Brush it and vacuum it every few weeks, and pull it apart and do a deep clean every month or so maybe.
Bought one like that in 2018 for $199 at Myer and still performing as on day one. I have been using Harris dark roast beans, but now I am converted to Moccona dark roast beans, best crema.
Excellent grinder, but you definitely need a distribution tool like a cheap WDT, because it does clump up at espresso and finer grind settings:)
Does anyone spray the beans with a mist of water first, before grinding.
This is something new I'm seeing alot of on coffee YouTube shorts etc
Now, it seems I'm looking for a WDT tool, if anyone had any suggestions.
And apparently I'm also looking for a puffer and replacement hopper for my BDB/BGP
Is anyone has any good suggestions please
I never really experienced any static issues with the SGP, so I have never bothered with RDT (on my Niche either). If you are experiencing issues, then sure, give it a go - but I wouldnt do it just for the sake of it.
WDT - 1000%. With the SGP, I'd say it's as close to mandatory as for any other grinder! (It's a clump monster!) Order some accupuncture needles / 3D printer nozzle cleaning needles, and make your own. Or get one printed if you know someone with a 3D printer (eg. "the people's WDT tool" / jkim_makes one). Or buy a cheap one from AliExpress.
Re bellows: I used to just flap the lid of the hopper a bit, and that worked ok (you have to sort of cup the air with the lid, if you know what I mean). I had always planned to get one printed off Thingiverse, but the person who was meant to print it for me was unreliable, so I never ended up getting one.
If you are looking to buy one, the one by FusedLine on etsy looks good. I've seen a few people post that they are happy with it, so I'd buy that if I was going to buy one. (I'm too cheap though, so I would just try one of the Thingiverse ones…or flap the lid! lol)
$249 code - HGSNS @ BL eBay