OCZ Octane S2 128GB SSD - $89.00
OCZ 128GB SSD, 2.5", Octane S2, SATA II, Read 270MB/s, Write 175MB/s
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OCZ AGT3-25SAT3-240G - was$229.00 - $209.00 SPECIAL While stock lasts
OCZ 240GB SSD, 2.5", Agility 3, SATAIII, Read 525MB/s, Write 500MB/s
APC Editors Choice 9/10… perhaps the best performance price point on the market!
http://www.scorptec.com.au/computer/41398-agt3-25sat3-240g
Check the link. Postage to Melbourne $10 but may vary.
Not to mention the reliability issues (Check the reviews: 49% gave it 1/5 stars on newegg).
(Sure it's cheap, I actually bought one myself, for my laptop that only has SATA 2 anyway; but don't expect super speeds, and be aware that you'll need very good backups!)
Yeah.. OCZ SSDs.. high failure rate…
If you want a decent SSD, pay a little extra for Intel or Samsung…
Bought mine when they had it on sale a few weeks ago from Centrecom. Still working perfectly and haven't had any dramas yet. The new firmware update must have fixed the problem. Can't complain for $89
Don't forget the Crucial M4 had issues before they updated the firmware.
EDIT: Almost all those comments on Newegg are negative comments because they had to manually update the firmware and have failed. Read the comments from people who received it with the latest firmware that's installed by the manufacturer.
Can't find a review for this model on Amazon, but the SATA3 version seems to have a lot of positive reviews.
http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Octane-2-5-Inch-Performance-IOPS-O…
Something else for potential purchasers to bear in mind when including Newegg reviews in their due diligence: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2150430
I pointed this phenomenon out once before but nobody listens around here once the FUD starts to gain momentum! FWIW, my two of these are both working great! ;)
Thanks StewBalls, I was trying to find that link. This is exactly why I'd rather read professional reviews rather than a review from someone who has little or no knowledge of whats going inside their computer. Either way, failure rate or not just make sure it has a good warranty and just like any data storage you use (SSD, HDD, Flash). Any idiot should know by now they should backup their important data regularly as data loss can happen anytime without notice.
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind anecdotal reports; but just so long as they're put in perspective with news, reports & proper tech reviews from other sources as well.
The simple fact is that a lot of unnecessary FUD has been generated in the past over the ~20/34-odd people on Newegg that have complained (sub 3/5 votes) about the drive. It's almost as bad as the perpetuation of the Seagate 7200.11 click of death stories!
I wouldn't know how many Newegg have sold, but in the context of one of the major online chains in perhaps the largest market in the world, conservative estimates would be thousands; if not tens of thousands. At the price point, 20/ those isn't bad odds, well IMHO anyway! ;)
Its exactly the same price from Centrecom (with postage) and MSY doesn't do shipping unless you make a phone order from Morningside (not sure about the other branches).. Would rather purchase from Scorptec since they offer a far better service if you need to deal with after sales support.
Totally agree it's not a bargain.
I noticed this SSD before. Great on booting time but bad on data transfer rate.
Oh please tell me a better deal for cheaper with postage included?
I noticed this SSD before.
Eyeing you across the crowded dance floor was it? :p
Great on booting time but bad on data transfer rate.
I'm not sure what kind of performance you're expecting from a SATA2 drive somecat? Here's my HP Microserver HDD:SSD comparison benchmarks FYI:
VB0250EAVER
SeqTest: Read 103.72MB/s Write 101.86MB/s
Random4K1TTest: Read 0.61MB/s Write 1.39MB/s
Random4K64TTest: Read 1.67MB/s Write 1.30MB/s
AccTimeTest: Read 13.108ms Write 2.813ms
Score: Read 13, Write 13, Total 32
OCZ-OCTANE S2 ATA Device
SeqTest: Read 224.96 MB/s Write 117.47MB/s
Random4K1TTest: Read 8.63MB/s Write 22.41MB/s
Random4K64TTest: Read 88.25MB/s Write 39.73MB/s
AccTimeTest: Read 0.155ms Write 0.128ms
Score: Read 119, Write 74, Total 252
I think most people will agree that translates to real-world performance gains in a SATA2 system! ;)
I do like the full disclosure on the second link. Telling your customers that kind of thing up-front is more likely to keep them.
It's better than buying Samsung 128's for $128.
This is sata 2 and slower than my current sata 2 kingston ssd
EDIT: The more I read about this SSD, the more I feel like I should neg this deal, DO NOT BUY, TONS OF ISSUES !!!
Reviews made it seem decent… sheesh*, Need to thank "DaTa" who made me venture further… lol
I'm gonna choose between, Samsung, Intel & OCZ Vertex 4(only)
Crucial M4 not on your list?
No prob ,most of the current sata 3 drives are around 500Mbps or so , this deal would be better if it was sata 3 but sata 2 drives are being phased out as sata 3 is backward compatible
I think the sandisk that was on special was sata 3btw
…as long as you don't mind it being much slower and failing more quickly.
Can you actually prove the high failure rate with the latest firmware that comes pre-installed? It maybe the slowest SSD on the market, but at that price point its the best value out there and certainly is way faster than a 7200RPM HDD with a 12 second boot-up time
Look at the end of the day it has a lower price for a reason. Its cheaper to produce, slower, and very likely still to have issues despite a firmware upgrade. So if this is your budget, take it; otherwise spend a bit more and go luxury. You'll know in 6 months time roughly what the difference is :)
You'll know in 6 months time roughly what the difference is
…at which time you'll still have two & a half years warranty left with a company that are being responsible about customer RMA. ;)
And from what I have read, customer support from OCZ is superb. I heard lots of people are getting this replaced with the Agility 3 which is SATA 3 (once reason why I bought this incase I need to RMA)
RMA wont help you recover your lost files, or gain back the valuable time lost if you need it for work. As i said, if its for your needs, good. You know exactly what i'm talking about :)
RMA wont help you recover your lost files…
No, that's correct. Only effective redundant backups will do that for any HDD/SSD.
…or gain back the valuable time lost if you need it for work.
Nothing will do that; but again, backups will mitigate the losses.
I wouldn't trust my data to any single storage media, especially a single large chunk of flash memory, regardless of brand! Seagate still owe me a fair whack of my time, but they're still selling HDDs! ;)
Stewballs, can you tell me how to indent quotes? I would appreciate it haha.
"No, that's correct. Only effective redundant backups will do that for any HDD/SSD."
"Nothing will do that; but again, backups will mitigate the losses."
The point was that better drives have less issues, so your less likely to run into these issues. Yes everybody should have a backup, but we all are guilt of not doing so at some point. But just because you have protection, does that mean you should be careless with the cause? My car has airbags, but I don't do 70Km/s into oncoming traffic(20km/s is my limit). So just because you have backups shouldn't be justification to get a less reliable drive. I have heard many of times how backups have failed when needed the most.
Your also susceptible to lost time, which can be avoided by not being a cheap arse :)
But back to what my focus is, if lost time, higher chance of RMA, backup reliance, and slower speeds are acceptable for the use of the product in your situation, by all means. But I still stand by the idea that just because you have backups doesn't mean you should antagonise the issue. Spend $30 and have better piece of mind.
Stewballs, can you tell me how to indent quotes?
Just put a > before the quoted text. ;)
The point was that better drives have less issues, so your less likely to run into these issues.
True. However, if you have followed what is going on in OCZland you'll know that they have been totally transparent about the problem & FW4.14 has fixed most of the previous issues with the indilinx controllers, and a larger proportion of OCZ's bad name actually came from their old sandforce controlled drives.
Remember, as mangolassi said, if you check the comments from the newegg customers whose drives shipped with the new firmware have been pretty much unanimously positive! Let's put this in perspective though, shall we…say you've got 30 complaints on newegg, at the price point they would have moved a shitload of these drives in a big market like the US; but even if they only sold 3000, then that's only a 1% failure rate (Crucial's overall is 0.8%)! I suspect that the real number sold would be much higher, thus the real % failed lower.
Your also susceptible to lost time, which can be avoided by not being a cheap arse
You can never avoid it, only mollify it. Calculated risks are part of life dude! You've just gotta factor out the FUD first though!:)
Spend $30 and have better piece of mind.
I think you mean $44 more, comparing your expired deal to mine. :p
$125 + $8 (shipping) = $133 - $89 (shipped), :. $44/$89 x 100 = ~50% more…see my point, calculated risks for informed OzBargainers can be wise purchases! Horses for courses though, as you say! :)
Just put a > before the quoted text. ;)
I like it :P
newegg customers whose drives shipped with the new firmware have been pretty much unanimously positive
Well yeah, they haven't had time to wear the drive in and come across issues. I'm sure the failure rate of devices increase over usage time. When they have had the drive for 6 months and the failure rate is lass then 1.5 I'll concede good sir :)
You can never avoid it, only mollify it. Calculated risks are part of life dude
I don't dispute this. I merely said it was my opinion to pay more for a better device, granted the price is acceptable. And I then followed on to say only if it suits your needs. So not disputing the idea of buying this, but I'm just saying as long as the risk are justified for use, which more or less is implying calculated risks :)
Spend $30 and have better piece of mind.
I paid $115 for my Vertex 4 128GB, ebay. Brand new sealed, docket for warranty and all.
I think you mean $44 more, comparing your expired deal to mine
No clue what your on about :) I could quote people all day HAHA!
I paid $115 for my Vertex 4 128GB, ebay. Brand new sealed, docket for warranty and all.
Now, that's not really a fair comparison for these purposes, is it? It's not a mainstream deal. That was a good price, you should've posted it coz the cheapest there now is $149 for UK stock or $159 local. That's 88% more BTW! :p
No clue what your on about…
Ah, I was comparing this: http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/72418 to this: http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/74062 (which is what I thought you were referring to).
Yes, quoting is fun…go forth & quotiply my children! :)
Now, that's not really a fair comparison for these purposes, is it?
Maybe its not, maybe it is. It was just a one off sale, no point posting if he had 5 in stock :) If you look hard enough for anything, you can get it for your price.
Ah, I was comparing this…
Nah was just a general comment, estimation. Guestimation. But its accurate if you shop around properly :)
Yes, quoting is fun…go forth & quotiply my children! :)
T'is ;)
No 'maybe' about it, that's just plain wrong. FYI it has never been available at anything like that price. If you can find a sub-$149 price anywhere ATM then post it, that's a deal.
You should consider yourself lucky to get one for $115…that's a steal; I'm not even sure how the seller was stupid enough to let that one get past; but you can't just rectally retrieve figures like that for specious comparison purposes!
Eh, well I did :) Either way, my point remains.
Your also susceptible to lost time, which can be avoided by not being a cheap arse :)
Isn't that why we're all here? ;)
you can't just rectally retrieve figures like that for specious comparison purposes!
Eh, well I did :)
Umm, err, brilliant strategy if it works for you I suppose. So we're to assume that's your source for all future comments then? ;)
Either way, my point remains.
Well, if your point was that a $149 SSD should bloody well be at least slightly better than an $89 one; then yes, I suppose that it does remain! My point, that it isn't necessarily 88% better for all purposes, should also be pretty self-evident, unless all you subscribe to is the usual OzB rumour-mongering! :p
Last comment, i'm getting a bit tired now.
So we're to assume that's your source for all future comments then?
My personal buying experience as a source? Definitely :) If your not as observant as others to find the cheaper then normal one offs that aren't on OzB than I feel sorry for you :P
it isn't necessarily 88% better for all purposes
I stated, several times over, if you can accept the issues for the 'purpose' your using it for its fine! I can't think to say that in another way that would make it clearer Stewy :)
My personal buying experience as a source?
No, as you should well know I was actually referring to your own admission of plucking figures out of your arse as if they were gospel. I don't blame you for trying to deflect that one though, I'd be embarrassed being caught out like that too. Frankly, I think you're lying about the Vertex 4…that's my observation, please feel free to prove me wrong with a link or receipt image! ;)
So Kill Joy, just to clarify; do you have or have you had one or more of these OCZ Octane S2 drives that you have had to RMA? Did they have the new firmware??? I'm sure that an observant person like yourself will see where I'm going with this…I'll point it out for you though; if you haven't had this experience, then all you're doing is perpetuating the same kind of old uneducated myths that are rife at OzB on a hell of a lot of topics.
That's my entire point, and one that you don't seem to be grasping…too many people get on here & just parrot what someone else has said without either experience or proper research! A few user comments on Newegg & suddenly the sky is falling Chicken Little!!! Look at poor old Elijah above, he's now an OzB 'expert' on these drives based on some pretty superficial research. :o
I'm kind of scratching my head about something else though…I do find it somewhat hypocritical that you have purchased any OCZ drive, especially one that uses the same controller & FW platform as the one that you are complaining about??? Why didn't you go Crucial if reliability is so, well, crucial? :p
The Vertex 4, being a new model; thus also somewhat untested as far as anecdotal evidence goes; then you've pretty much undermined all of your arguments about paying for reliability "which can be avoided by not being a cheap arse." I'd be interested to hear your rationales surrounding this decision making process?
Haha like how after I say i'm done you want to look like a man and introduce several new arguments and a new ENITRE POINT that your not fooling anybody with by saying its your point all along because you don't make near damn one reference to it :)
Anywho, I am done so I'mma just leave it here with you to ponder endlessly because we just don't see eye to eye on this and never will.
Sorry dude, there's nothing new there at all; your failure to make the semantic connections or draw inferences is not my issue. As you well know, merely being obtuse doesn't win you the argument, but it apparently gets you out of one easily enough I suppose!
So I'll take that as a 'yes' then, you are just parroting the same old half-truths, misconceptions & Chinese whispers without any practical personal experience. Don't be embarrassed, better men than you have fallen into the same trap. I shall consider myself truly chastened though, coz as you say I will surely reflect upon your great wisdom from here unto eternity…thank you for your time. :)
Gosh I sure do feel like a real man now; but where would I get one at this time on a Sunday night??? :p
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Scorptec warranty service is relatively good, compared to other computer stores. Which you might need for OCZ products.
FACT: They give you a way better service than Centrecom and MSY when it comes to after sales support
Not a bargain for the 128gb Octane… Same price at a lot of other places..
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/oct1-25sat2-128g-octane-…
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=9333