If you've been looking for a cheap Gen 5 boot SSD with good specs then this is it
14,000 MB/s read
8,500 MB/s write
These drives come with DRAM
These drives come with a heatsink to keep them cool.
Should be able to claim another $12 off with coupon BDAU08
Referee receives a random discount (not specified), referrer receives a $8 off $32 Minimum Spend Coupon which increases in value with successful referrals.
5 year warranty is nice
Being overseas stock and with no local support, is the warranty worth the paper it is written on?
Long warranties tell you the manufacturer is confident that the drive will probably last at least 5 years.
Alternatively: Short warranties… suggest that the product is poor quality and the manufacturer isn't confident enough to offer you more than the bare minimum warranty.
I haven't had to warranty anything from Fanxiang so it's hard to know how good the warranty service is.
However, SSD's rarely fail… so there's a good chance this one won't either.
SSD's are small and light… making them very easy and cheap to send back to the manufacturer if they fail.
Fanxiang seems to be a legit manufacturer not just somebody slapping a sticker on another manufacturers product.
Most manufacturers seem to honour their warranties… even if you have to send the product back to the factory.
I've had to send stuff from Corsair back to Taiwan despite them having local distributors… so local distributors don't always ensure your warranty return is handled in Australia.
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Long warranties tell you the manufacturer is confident that the drive will probably last at least 5 years.
Actually it just tells you that they’re confident that they won’t have to allocate disproportionate funds to covering it within that timeframe. That could be because it’s so reliable, but it could equally be because the business won’t be contactable/still around or the claim process so painful that nobody completes it.
I have no opinion on this product specifically, it could be fantastic - but it’s not correct to say that it must be reliable directly because of the warranty on offer.
Long warranties tell you the manufacturer is confident that the drive will probably last at least 5 years.
Alternatively: Short warranties… suggest that the product is poor quality and the manufacturer isn't confident enough to offer you more than the bare minimum warranty
If that was the case, MG would be the more reliable car in the world. But as it turns out, MG is one of worse cars when it comes to reliability. As I wrote earlier, some warranties are not worth the paper they are written on.
I have experience with this - Fanxiang does not have any Australian registered business whatsoever. If you try to contact via their official website, they will tell you (profanity) off. You will need rely on the goodwill of ebay/temu/aliexpress/amazon/wherever else to enforce warranty when this dies in ~8 months when the known faulty controllers fail.
Fanxiang's entire business model is built upon taking in known bad components for pennies/free, and abusing most online platform's ~3 months escrow/dispute period.
Downvote because negative experience with the product/company.
https://au.trustpilot.com/review/fanxiangssd.com
Trustpilot has a lot of negative reviews… but there are only 18 reviews in total… so that's not a good cross section of the population.
Amazon has thousands of reviews and 5% of them are 1 star 82% are 5 star:
https://www.amazon.com.au/fanxiang-S880-Internal-Solid-State…
My own experience has been positive so far:
My 2TB Gen 4 NVMe drive is 2 years old.
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@slick: Because yours is not broken so you've haven't had to deal with them, like this guy has, I assume.
Warranty from aliexpress bit of a hit and miss and wouldn't count on it.
AliExpress is pretty good at refunding if you have a problem.
The seller seems to be the Fanxiang factory store i.e. The manufacturer
It has a lot of sales and a pretty good rating.
If you're buying from the manufacturer that's about as good as it gets.
You buy from AliExpress if you want cheap stuff.
The alternative is to find someone local and pay a lot more.
Most Gen 5 NVMe drives (even small ones) are painfully expensive at the moment… and a lot aren't all that fast.
Buying local doesn't alway guarantee you that they'll honour their warranties either.
Local shops sometimes refuse to handle older warranties and make you go direct to the manufacturer.
Even the biggest manufacturers can play hard ball on warranties… refusing to honour them or making them hard to claim.
No bargain is risk free… but this one seems to tick most of the boxes.
The seller seems to be the Fanxiang factory store i.e. The manufacturer
FWIW it's very common on aliexpress to find half a dozen "official" or "factory" stores none of which have any relation to the actual manufacturer. Try searching Xiaomi sometime.
There is no enforcement, so the store names are just meaningless fluff. The only trustworthy way to identify an official storefront is by following a direct link from the actual manufacturer website.
Some vendors fight very hard to get out of warranty support indeed. But had some good experiences too.
I've got a S660 Gen4 NVMe 4TB drive from Fanxiang which Reads ~7000 MB/s and Writes ~5000 MB/s.
That's without a cache.
They're not bad drives and mine is almost 2 years old… and showing no signs of failing.
That's the thing about SSDs though… They don't tend to show signs of failing. They just die suddenly.
The Fanxiang 4TB NVMe S660 is being used as a storage drive so it doesn't work very hard.
None of our SSD's have ever failed and we've owned a lot of them.
By comparison a lot of our mechanical drives have failed.
SSD's have a much lower failure rate than mechanical drives.
The failure rates of SSD's were terrible when they were first released… but have been very good for many years now.
The only major problem Gen 5 SSD's have is that they can get a bit hot
If you're trying to put together a PCIe 5 based system it is false economy not to double the speed of your hard drive if the price difference from Gen3 or 4 drive is modest.
It's literally like getting a faster computer for a few dollars more.
A small but fast boot drive and a large, slow and cheap storage drive is the best way to manage the price/performance dilemma.
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I have multiple SSDs failed. Most of the failed ones were hardly used. All except one suffered sudden death. The one that didn't just died started running very slow one day and within an hour, it died.
Health check software do gradually reduce the SSD health. An SSD used for recording surveillance video daily has a SSD health of 98% (and it hasn't even been a year). I have an old SSD with SSD health figure of 63%. I don't put anything important on that SSD.
Thinking SSDs won't fail is unsafe. Important data, have multiple copy of backups on different storage types.
@netsurfer: Yep… back up data daily.
Boot drives are all high end Samsung drives.
It's the no-name cheap drives that seem to fail not so much the high end ones… or the ones with long warranties.
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@slick: BS… I have multiple Samsung SSDs which failed. When SSDs fail, that's when you know whether a store provides good warranty service or not. I got a full refund when an SSD failed 4 years later (another option was to get an equivalent SSD, because that SSD is no longer being sold).
Good luck getting AliExpress to help you with the warranty later on. I tried to get warranty service for a Mini PC after 1 year from AliExpress "Choice" service. No can do, the seller came up with all sorts of BS excuses.
All valid points… but I don't see why this commented against my suggestion that if an SSD fails they just tend to die without much warning.
@nitens: I was replying to OP (i.e. slick). Did OZB notify you? Sorry about that, I turn off OZB notification for comment replies so I don't know how that works.
I've got a S660 Gen4 NVMe 4TB drive from Fanxiang which Reads ~7000 MB/s and Writes ~5000 MB/s.
That's without a cache.
Those quoted speed is definitely SLC cache speed. SSD makers' marketing trick is really working. Most people get so excited about those speed and CrystalDiskMark results that they don't give a damn about the slowest sequential write speed (most people don't seem to care about what happens once that SSD is 85% filled). DRAMless SSDs use HMB.
Windows bootup is more about 4K random read speed (QD1). There is no way consumer grade SSD can do 4K random read/write QD1 of 7000MB/s.
These gen5 SSDs do not have enough 4K random read/write low queue depth improvement so you won't get much Windows bootup performance improvement. Getting gen5 SSD(s) for the moment is mostly for bragging.
Yes you're right… slowest sequential write speed is overlooked most of the time… and it can be important some of the time.
Same with what happens when the drive is 85% full.
I benchmark my drives each time I get a new one… and the benchmarks are both synthetic and real world.
You're right… the boot times don't always improve all that much: It's already fast.. but shaving a few more seconds off boot is always nice.
Some of the other metrics should show meaningful improvements.
In general if you need a new drive and you have a choice of Gen 3, 4 or 5… it's usually a good idea to choose the fastest one if it's not too expensive.
We're just about to upgrade to a Gen5 system and it would be a shame to put a Gen4 NVMe drive in it.
The Gen 5 drive will be used to clone the Gen4 system… ensuring no data will be lost in the upgrade.
If it all goes well the Gen5 drive will remain the boot drive and we'll run some benchmarks to see what kind of performance increase the PCIe 5 system provides.
…or we could sit on our hands and wait till Samsung drops its Gen5 NVMe prices?
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Are we really going to trick our brain even further with more BS on PCIe gen 5 x4 SSDs? This once the latest PCIe gen SSD we like is released, we will trash the previous PCIe gen DRAMless SSDs and accept the new cheating method being fine is too much fan boy talk.
This the SSD posted is the greatest (we will not mention faster SSD, but the one that's slower we'll hammer) is getting old.
We're just about to upgrade to a Gen5 system and it would be a shame to put a Gen4 NVMe drive in it.
You need a PC that supports multiple PCIe gen 5 x4 SSDs in order for it to make sense.
For now, it is only worth getting PCIe gen 5 SSDs if they are for work and you can expense them.
13,000 MB/s write
OP, on the item specs:
S910 Pro-1TB:Sequential Read Speed up to 14000 MB/s;Write Speed up to 8500 MB/s. Max to 700TBW,With 1GB Dram Cache
Please update the deal description.
There is a limit on 1TB at high end, it is not large enough to write at the same speed as 2TB+ SSDs. This carries over from PCIe gen 4. People really need to not get tricked by marketing hype and listing tricks. Do your checks if you must buy PCIe gen 5 SSDs.
If going to PCIe gen 5 means you need to compromise and get more 1TB SSDs, then you really should think twice. Are you REALLY getting the quality of life improvement?
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B0CZSB13R4 appears to use the same controller and flash
Also the specs on Aliexpress state:
S910 Pro-1TB:Sequential Read Speed up to 14000 MB/s;Write Speed up to 8500 MB/s.Max to 700TBW,With 1GB Dram Cache
Fanxiang is significantly faster (+2,500 MB/s) than the Lexar for reads.
Only slightly slower for writes.
They both have 5 year warranties.
The heatsink on the Lexar looks massive.
Always nice to have a few options.
Price is slightly cheaper on Amazon:
AliExpress doesn't add GST till right before checkout
The 22% faster speed of the Fanxiang is probably worth paying slightly more for.
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Agreed, same controller, same NAND flash type. From Amazon and cheaper. Heatsink is a good thing for PCIe gen 5 x4 SSD.
is this compatible with PS5?
Yes, but it is silly to pay that kind of money for 1TB SSD to be put into PS5. You can get a 2TB SSD with that kind of price.
The PS5 is Gen4 technology so it can't take advantage of Gen 5 speeds.
Netsurfer is right… PS5's will benefit from extra storage if you have a large library of games… but 1 TB is enough for many people.
You should keep your SSD's below 85% full to prevent premature failure.
The bigger the hard drive the longer it will last… plus it future proofs your PS5.
N.B. A faster drive on a slower interface should run cooler.. and this would improve performance and lifespan.
:-)
random IOPS reach up to 2000K for reads and 1600K for writes
Wow, those are some really fast numbers.
Congrats on your second post in 20 years
I've commented a few times over the years but never had a bargain that I thought was good enough to be shared… and remembered to share it.
I'm following a Ryzen 7700 CPU thread (waiting for the next bargain)… and that prompted me to post a few things that might interest other people.
:-)
Bought their SATA SSD and die after few months, all data gone :(((((((((((((((((((
Did you get a replacement or full refund? I found AliExpress after sale service pretty shocking after the initial period. AliExpress refused to have the seller fix my faulty mini PC after 1 year (faulty RAM). AliExpress's reason is because the RAM is soldered onto the motherboard, no warranty.
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/the-3-2-1-backup-strategy/
With fairly affordable cloud options these days, 'data gone' is just a poor planning. If it's important to you, you'll have more than one copy of things.
99% of things on my actual PC I could lose and probably not care about. Maybe some old game saves? But now with Steam cloud sync that's pretty rare too!
OP, just post the deal, let other people decide, don't sugarcoat the deal. Two people have pointed out the write speed on the description is wrong and you are still not fixing it.
I only just figured out how to edit the original subject line.
I posted the correct speed in the comments below in the interim.
The read/write speeds were pulled from the original ad.
They had more than one drive listed and the speed rating was referring to the fastest drive not the 1 TB drive.
Didn't spot the more detailed speed ratings below until a bit later.
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I've got the 7000 MB/so read write 2tb from them and it's awesome. 2 years never had issues. I'll buy one of these soon definitely.
I just checked the final price and with discount, GST & free postage it came out to $155 not $164.
Those numbers don't look real
My Fanxiang 4TB Gen4 NVMe drive gets ~7000 MB/s read and ~5000 MB/s write speeds.
:-)
Nah I'm good
S910 Pro-1TB:Sequential Read Speed up to 14000 MB/s;Write Speed up to 8500 MB/s.Max to 700TBW,With 1GB