Are You First in Line if You Were First to Arrive or First to Line up?

Does a line go off the order you arrive or the order that you line up IN THE LINE?

A food truck serves food where i live once a fortnight. It gets long lines.

I pulled up one time at the food truck and nobody was lined up yet so i sat in my car just before it opened. Then a minute or two later half a dozen more cars pull up.. those people walk over and lined up before i could get out and walk over… And now there is a line of people who arrived after me but are now before me in line.

As an un-entitled individual… i simply join the back of the line and think "well i didnt go and line up WHEN i arrived.. so its my own fault i am behind them i waited to long in my car". In other words, i took responsibility for my actions (or inactions).

Then…

The other day i arrived early again to avoid the line and i was also was in rush. Others had already arrived before me, i got out and walked over and lined up first in line at the truck (i stood alone for 5 minutes in hot sun). Then 10 or so people got behind me in a line.

The truck opened i was served first and after my number got called and i got my pizza (i was first) someone comes up to me and absolutely abuses me and screams at me infront of the whole line (including someone i kind of knew in the line). His logic was he got there first in his car (even though he didnt actually line up at all) so he should of been first in line and says "what do you think we were parked just there next to the food truck for?". He absolutely berated me as if i was selfish in front of the whole line of people. Im the villian. It was humiliating.

I tried to walk away from him and he literally, very loudly screamed at me "dont turn your back to me". I again said that he could go first, next time.

Then i walked more but my anger got me and i turned and said "F you" at him and stood there (yeh i know i shouldn't of but he had absolutely humiliated me in front of 20 locals). And he immediately played victim like "oh see this guy is a villian" in front of the people in line.

I still think just parking your car beside the truck does not determine your spot in the line… like every other establishment on earth where you buy stuff .. you have to walk the extra 20 feet from your car and line up not just drive to the location of the truck/post office/restaurant etc. The orders are taken from the window in a line.. not the car line.

The guy who abused me always shows up early and is very territorial of "the pizza truck" and he never lines up. When the truck opens he always scurries over and orders first in front of everyone else who HAS lined up.

Opinions?

Comments

  • +5

    Chat GPT says:

    As an AI language model, I don't have opinions, but I can provide some insights based on social norms and practices.

    In general, the order in which people arrive in a line determines their place in the line. It is not based on whether they have parked their car next to the truck or not. If someone arrives before others, they have the right to line up first. However, it is also a common practice for people to join the back of the line if they arrive after others have already lined up, regardless of whether they parked their car nearby or not.

    In your specific situation, the person who berated you was in the wrong. While they may have arrived before you, they did not line up and, therefore, do not have the right to claim that they were first in line. It is understandable that you may have been frustrated by their behavior, but shouting at them was not the best course of action. It is always better to try to defuse a situation with calm words and a level head.

    In any case, it is best to follow common social practices and etiquette when lining up for something, especially when there is a large crowd or a long wait involved. This helps to avoid conflicts and ensure that everyone has a fair chance to be served or assisted in a timely manner.

    In any case, it sounds like they thoroughly got your goat, and you walked away with no pizza, and they got their pizza first. They well and truly won and things are going to be awkward next time you go back to the pizza truck. It seems you are projecting your own feelings onto them, with regards to the brooding and other stuff you are complaining about.

    • +1

      Haha nice to know artificial intelligence agrees with me..

      Btw i did get my pizza, the abuse started when i collected my pizza.

      • Then you did win, what are you worried about.

    • I agree too he got my goat..

      But that is an interesting comment because it implies it wouldn't of got yours. Has anyone ever been that rude to you and abused you etc and got your goat? Its pretty normal when someone unfairly embarrasses and humiliates you for them to work you up no? People get murdered over much less?

      • My behavioural science studies taught more than anything else that people generally behave how they think they are supposed to behave.

        • You asked what i was worried about before … What you said here: that people think his behaviour was justified/how he should behave….it was appropriate reaction because i pushed in

          "He wouldnt be that upset unless this guy pushed in"

          Nothing i can do . Gotta live with my reputation for "pushing in" now.. atleast to whoever believed him

    • Yeh i probably projected that bit you mentioned youre right im overthinking that part

  • +3

    My opinion is you need a tldr

    But also. You were in the right…

  • Yeh sorry about the tldr i deleted some paragraphs hard to tell story quickly

  • +4

    that guy sounds like he has a miserable life if he's getting so riled up about this, especially as he's in the wrong. if he wants to be served first he has to be the first one standing in the line. it's not a drive through

  • +2

    Enjoy your pizza.

    Old mate needs to shave a sausage where the sun dont shine.

  • +2

    He's cooked. Glad you told him to f off. Sounds like a (profanity).
    In answer to your question, your 1st in line only once you line up but there are other circumstances where that doesn't count. Deli there's no line and you should get served by taking a slip and they call the number. As they rarely do this, they instead serve based on when you arrived.
    But you're 100% in the right and his behaviour is whack.

  • +5

    Yeah, nah…. you're not in the queue, unless & until you join the queue.

    If the person was well known and folk were aware that they weren't capable of standing around in the queue for long periods, then I can imagine everyone being more than happy to let them jump the queue, early arrival or not.

    Now that they've made a scene, I would anticipate the opposite effect. Everyone is gonna be especially vigilant of this clown and their imaginary queuing regime

    • -1

      How can someone be first in 'line' until there is a 'line'?

      • +1

        LOL. It's not that complicated - we're not dealing with metaphysics here.

        An empty queue at a food truck that is yet to open is still a queue.

        If you wanna guarantee that you're served first, take the position at the head of the queue before anyone else does.

        I'd love to see this entitled sod try the same thing at a the local bank branch of pension Tuesday. Blood will be spilled 😂

    • +1

      +1 for "Yeah, nah…. you're not in the queue, unless & until you join the queue"

  • +3

    The car guy is a piece of sh!t that needs to grow up and to stop acting like a perma-child throwing a tantrum.

  • +1

    Whoever lines up first. I've seen in other situations where ppl just stand around and incapable of creating a line. If it's the same truck every time, you should ask the server that question.

    • You make a good observation

      People seem reluctant to be first to line-up as if that means they want to be first or something and thats bad

      Maybe this location exaggerates that because everyone can see from their car where they pull up who is walking over to line up. I dont know

  • +2

    Desex that guy, we dont need him to reproduce

  • +1

    He's batshit insane, you're in the line when you're in the line.

    Same applies in every queue, airport, entry to a venue, waiting to take a piss, it sounds like they're not very good at this whole "society" thing.

  • +3

    I don't think people should line up at all. They should throng around like a chaotic mob, and the person who pushes to the front most aggressively should be first.

  • +1

    First come = first serve usually works but you need to be inline.
    First in Line in this situation.

  • +1

    Does a line go off the order you arrive or the order that you line up IN THE LINE?

    The food fan serves the line, so it is whoever is in the line, so first to line up.

    Honestly who knows who/when people in cars got there etc. You did the right thing, the other person is crazy.

  • -1

    When dealing with people like that it's far more helpful to yell (profanity) You at the start and constantly interrupt with the same until they go away.

  • Sounds like an episode of reality tv.

    • Mate thought i was in episode of seinfeld with pizza truck nazi or something

      But the people who came later in line and saw him abusing me didnt see what happened.. and because he was so mad and abusive.. probably thought he had a reason to be like id jumped the line.. so it was still humiliating

  • When can I watch this short film on YouTube?

    • Haha

      I might submit the script to seinfeld

  • I like the use of the word villain in the story

    • Haha maybe im being to dramatic with villian.. but he was trying to brand me as the bad guy to everyone around… "The Ahole who pushes in"

      This sounds like a comedy honestly.. atleast to me. This guy is territorial over… A food truck. He doesnt have to actually line up etc if he parks close to the truck etc.

      But it was still humiliating because to on lookers its like…. if he is that mad this guy must of pushed in on him or something

  • +1

    Sounds like he made you feel quite embarrassed in front of a bunch of randoms, I'd probably feel the same if it was me and I was on my own. Doesn't sound like you did anything wrong, this guy is obviously the entitled arsehole if he "scurries over" at the first sign of the truck opening even when he didn't arrive there first.

    You should probably mention it to the owners of the food truck. They're probably aware of the guy but if I was them I would tell that guy to behave like a normal person otherwise I wouldn't continue to serve him.

    • He arrives first in his car every time… But he doesnt line up in front of the truck like the rest. When truck opens he scurries over and orders first in front of those who actually walked over and lined up.. which is everyone else.

      He is very friendly to everyone and talks to the owners etc. But so are narcassists they like keeping up appearances.

      Thats why it was embarrassing… The guy is a "friendly local"

    • I dont particularly care that he does that… But if he isnt served first i dont want to be abused for being served ahead of him

      Basically i think if he cares so much about being served first and not second, then make sure you are standing first in the actual line.

  • Edit: replied to wrong comment

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