Cycled to work this morning. Drove a couple times last week and wondering what the ozbargain commute method of choice is.
Can really get public transport on the route I have, can’t work from home but try to cycle to work where possible. I was an all weather cycle commuter for a few years, but had good facilities for showerimg and changing. I even ran to work once because I could.
How’s your commute? What’s the predominant transport method?
No high yield investment vehicle option?
Public transport is a high-yield investment ;)
Do orthopedic slides and an expensive bath robe count?
WFH but if I have to go into the office, then I drive. Takes half the time than if I caught public transport
What about motorbike?
Added.
Motorbike once a week to the office in the city. Make use of the "Free" parking in the Wilsons/Secure Parking dotted around ;)
Please add "Tesla (with my free solar)" I don't drive one, but saving you from all the grief
anyone see in the news the other day the car that had solar panels all over their car (think it was a Holden Commodore) get pulled over and the driver had no license, registration??
This.
I love this comment:
Victoria Police said the driver of the 'solar-powered' Holden ute "will be invited along to the Magistrates Court at a future date to explain his actions."
That’s the one! Not sure what he’s thinking with that set up
That’s a car.
Tesla drivers would dispute that.
True. Tesla lovers think it’s an entertainment centre on wheels.
If you asked this question in Japan, you would get something like the following results (assume roughly 10000 people answered the poll):
20 Car only
8000 Public transport
20 Drive to public transport
1000 Bicycle to public tranport
200 Bicycle only
10 E-bike
0 E-scooter or other e-thingy
100 Walk
300 Commute? Nah, I WFH
300 Commute? Nah. Work’s for suckers. I’m retired.
100 Motorbike/scooter
Despite the incredibly high population and population density in Tokyo, there just aren't many traffic jams, and the air is reasonably clean. It's because about 95% of the population catches public transport.
I feel like the governments/councils in Australia are continually trying to make it more convenient to drive, even though the size of the populations in major capital cities can't cope with everyone driving no matter how many road upgrades they complete. The only way for large cities to cope with high population and rapid population growth in the long term is to make it less convenient to drive, and to design reliable, fast, convenient, comprehensive, affordable public transport systems that do not use the road network.
I feel like the governments/councils in Australia are continually trying to make it more convenient to drive, even though the size of the populations in major capital cities can't cope with everyone driving no matter how many road upgrades they complete. The only way for large cities to cope with high population and rapid population growth in the long term is to make it less convenient to drive, and to design reliable, fast, convenient, comprehensive, affordable public transport systems that do not use the road network.
But how would the poor construction industry survive if the NSW government did not gift them infrastructure projects and make the NSW residents pay tolls/higher commuting fees for all its hard work?
We should also all live in shoebox apartments and sacrifice our lives to our careers. Japan works well but it works partly because they're kinda weirdos in a lot of ways.
We should also all live in shoebox apartments
This is a stereotype that is only partly true. It is mainly younger people/single people in their 20s and 30s and poor people who live in shoebox apartments (i.e. in Tokyo Metropolis). But the majority of Tokyo workers (such as married couples) actually commute from neighbouring prefectures, where they live in really well-designed 2-storey houses (roughly similar in size to a detached Australian 3-bed/4-bed townhouse, but with a design that takes better advantage of limited space).
and sacrifice our lives to our careers.
This has been true for a long time, but it is definitely in the process of changing. I have Japanese friends in Japan, career workers, and I read the newspapers. All kinds of laws are being implemented and enforced recently, to make the lives of workers better, and to encourage workers to take more holidays.
Japan works well
In some ways it does, in some ways it doesn't. I think every country has pros and cons.
but it works partly because they're kinda weirdos in a lot of ways.
There are definitely some major weirdos in Japan, and I would argue emotional intelligence is generally low among typical Japanese people due to cultural baggage, but on the whole, I find Japanese are more consistently considerate, reliable, and less aggressive than people in many other countries.
Yeah no I love Japan and it's people but you can't deny that a lot of their cultural standards would be considered weird in comparison to our own. I doubt many Australians would appreciate the whole "the nail that sticks out gets hammered in" philosophy (largely the reason that they are more considerate, reliable, and less aggressive) . Would I have any issues cramming myself into a peak hour Tokyo train? No problem. Would I be keen to do the same in Australia and be face to armpit with some of the people riding the trains here? Probably not.
We actually had a visitor from Japan last week — a young person in 20s and works in Tokyo. However she deliberately chose to live with family in Chiba, in a standalone house with yard, and spend hours walking & commuting on the train everyday. Told her that we stayed in Kōtō last time we went to Japan, and found it convenient, but she said there's no way she would want to live in the concrete jungle.
So I guess there's actually not that different in terms of housing preference between Aussies & Japanese. However most of them are more than happy to use the public transport. PT in big cities in Japan are better covered but not cheap either.
Finally an anti-weeb.
some FIFO workers go to work via planes
personally i would like to try helicopter
Where is E-motorcycle???
I ride a Fonz Aurthur 2+ electric scooter to work (and it's a scooter scooter, not some eshay electric kids kick "scooter")
I ride 12km round trip to work each day, and I have logged every single charge so far, in the last 6 months, it has cost me $7.61 to do 861km. This doesn't include charging on solar or when I charge at work for free, so it has actually been cheaper than $7.61, but I just put ALL charging down as overnight, off peak rates.
To drive my last ICE car to work, the same distance would have cost me about $135 in just fuel (9l/100km @ $1.75/l average), and I dont get free petrol from my solar system nor work.
That just a motorbike, but a cheap one to run.
Nice ride. Fair question since ebike is listed separately from bike
Ebike when it's nice, train when it rains
Bike riding is the best way to go, it has no ongoing costs (per ride).
Well… it doesn’t cost much, but tyres and chains wear out, the bike depreciates etc.
Then again, when I was cycle commuting every day it cost me a fortune in upgrades!
E-scooter (legal here) or public transport if the weather is crap. I work in public transport and if I'm lucky I can time it so I can get off at the depot when they change drivers and don't have to walk from the station.
Public transport. Takes longer but is way cheaper than paying for petrol and parking.
Walk 5m from the bedroom, to the study