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Daikin Air Purifier MC40 / MC40YPVM $269 Delivered ($255.55 with eBay Plus or Targeted Code) & More @ Daikin eBay

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Very impressed with mine (MC40).

FYI: if you crack a fart, it will ramp up the fan.. but you can adjust the sensitivity if you eat a lot of beans.

You can dim the LEDs on it, or have them turn off when idle (except the power LED).

The HEPA filter is cleanable, and expected to last 10 years in the average environment.
Replacement filters can be purchased via aliexpress etc, or via daikin resellers for genuine.

It's quiet and doesn't use much power.

My older daikin purifier has been going strong 10+ years without a hiccup..
still on the original filters.. imo, they are designed/engineered really well..

I had a look but can't determine the normal sale price.
But seems like a better deal IMO compared to others I've seen lately on ozb.

Before Impulse Buying

Read the comments below for alternative views. These may induce amounts of ozone* into the air. This doesn't concern me. I don't think the MC40 acts like ionizers of olden days (trying to engage the entire room) but rather, it works to embiggen particles to allow the filters to work/be cleaned more efficiently. Still.. If you have a zero ozone policy.. you may want to look for something else.. @Bargainshooter has given some alternatives below

update

Daikin responded to user Eightimmortals stating (re MC40) "the percentage of ozone in the room will not exceed 0.000005%.This sit[s] well below the standard." refer: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13466116/redir

The MC40 has streamer tech.. but not the 'active plasma ion tech' that the larger models have.
If you are concerned, contact Daikin about your specific model.

website for comparison/side-by-side/specs:
https://www.daikin.com.au/our-product-range/air-purifiers/ai…

Brochure: https://www.daikincatalog.com/das_0001/book/#target/page_no=…
(links to Page 7 with model comparison information)

MC30 seems to have some more stock (08/03 730pm)

MC30: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/224984333480

MC40 has been reported to have more stock occasionally.
MC40: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/224977869261

MC55: 588.05 with ebay plus https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/224977880957
MCK55: $778.05 with ebay plus https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/224977893967

Replacement filter examples:
https://www.aliexpress.com/premium/KAFP080B4E.html?catId=0&i…

I assume Daikin have an agreement not to sell filters/parts directly/online.
If you want genuine filters… contact your local dealer: https://www.daikin.com.au/find-dealer

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  • +11

    If only for the fart feature…

    • +4

      Does it include sharts?

      • +9

        That's for the wet/dry vac

      • +1

        The ten year filter might be reduced a few years.

  • +3

    lol. looks like a pretty good deal if the 40 is the same price as the 30.
    does anybody else have any experience and can compare this one versus other brands on the market?

    • +3

      I have the older MC70LPVM model bought in 2015, still going strong. The fart feature does work, trust me ;) And it picks it up from quite a fair distance - let's say 5-8metres away roughly.

      When people come over, they do comment about how clean/pure the air smells. We still have allergies but maybe not as much. The filter does get very dirty, we give it a clean/vacuum/wash every couple of months and replace it once a year, so it at least gets rid of all that dust and muck from the air.

      Very quiet unit generally, much quieter than our Breville and Inova Air at work. Hope this helps!

      • yeh I have the older-older MC707PVM from around 2009. I'm on my last original filter.. bought some replacements from aliexpress.. they aren't identical but seem in the ballpark.

        these newer models all seem to use a cleanable hepa filter/fewer stages.. but I'm happy enough with it.

        I do like the huge prefilter on my older model.. but i guess it was made redundant.

        • +3

          If the HEPA filter is "cleanable" I have large reservations about how good a HEPA it is.

          • +2

            @ssfps: Agreed. Strongly.

            There's no way that the really small particles are going to get cleaned out of a HEPA via vacuum/washing. The initial layer of coarse dust can be scrubbed or sucked off, but that coarse dust poses no health hazard anyway and can be better dealt with via a prefilter.

            • @rumblytangara: Further to that, some guy in… (Hong Kong?) did a bunch of independent testing and found vacuuming increased airflow and decreased amount of filtration.

          • +3

            @ssfps: https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/how-to-clean-wash-hepa-f…

            Basically these guys are saying HEPA loses a lot of its effectiveness after you wash it…

            Still surprised that a company as big as Daikin would come out an say their HEPA filters last 10 years that boldly.

            • @Bunnyburger:

              Basically these guys are saying HEPA loses a lot of its effectiveness after you wash it…

              Dyson V12 has Hepa Filter that only requires cleaning/washing with cold water…

            • @Bunnyburger: Brilliant, thanks for posting that. I had forgotten that site, but used it in the past for DIY purifiers- it's great.

              As an aside, their commercially produced (Kickstarter then full production) product was a big disappointment. Very inexpensive, very cheap replacement filters, but a really bad sound profile with lots of high frequency noise. I was really bummed out, had expected much better things from their design.

      • +3

        When people come over, they do comment about how clean/pure the air smells.

        Wouldn't the purifier catch them secretly farting though? That would be awkward.

        • +1

          always keep a doggo nearby to lay blame on

      • +1

        Very quiet unit generally, much quieter than our Breville and Inova Air at work

        FYI the machine is "quiet" because it isn't doing anything. The fan needs to be running at a brisk pace in order to force air through the HEPA filter to capture particles, it's simple physics. Your machine is only filtering when it's "noisy".

        This is why things like "night mode" on air purifiers are largely useless, the fan is spinning at such a slow speed that the amount of filtering being done is negligible.

        • +2

          @deadpoet true.. but this is why it always has the sensors running.. and every now and then it will suck in and sample air.. and if the dust/odour levels are high, it will ramp up. it has a pollen mode which I think increases this cycle.

          you can fart, under bedsheets.. several meters away.. and it will ramp up.
          I hop into bed..it will ramp up immediately, despite being several meters away.

          Studies have shown the worst affect from dustmites (my severe allergen) comes not from lying stationary in bed.. but rather the act of getting into bed (or bedtime 'activities'.. moving clothes/sheets etc).. which floats the chitin proteins about.

          I agree with what you are saying, but if the machine is quite, I know the PM2.5/odours are at a low level.. it doesn't alarm me. If I vac, I chuck it onto pollen mode, even though it's not really required.. just for the extra cycling.

  • +1
    • +3

      the daikin website links directly to the ebay store if you try and purchase (? I think)

      • +1

        I update the post to include the direct links

        • +1

          Tops, yeah it was an eBay plus promo

  • Got one thanks. Also got additional 5% off for eBay plus.

  • +5

    thanks end up getting it for $249 from the ebay store. Not sure if its targeted but i got $20 off code for it (under the price it said I could get it for $249 and to click here). If u have ebay plus you can get 5% off further

    • +4

      ebay plus 5% does not stack.
      You can choose one discount or the other. In this case the $20 off code is the better deal.

    • PLUSMAR1 was the Ebayplus code I got for it. Brought it down to $255.55

  • This vs Xiaomi 4 pro?

    • +2

      xiaomi requires new filters each year.. daikin every 10 years.

      how much do the filters cost?

      • +5

        same reason I chose this over the Xiaomi is bc of the filter changes

        • +7

          an ozb user has reported that xiaomi force you to change their filters by using rfid.
          if true.. that's utterly despicable (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13460965/redir)

          • +7

            @jinkerjinx: Mine still works after the filter says 0 days left on it.

          • +2

            @jinkerjinx: Don't spread misinformation please, they don't "force" you to do anything. You can keep using it even if the filter life is at 0%; the filtering efficiency will be reduced at this point, of course, since HEPA filters degrade over time and with continued use.

            It's also false that the Xiaomi machines require a filter change every year, you can use a single filter for far longer than a year if you don't run the machine 24/7.

            • @deadpoet: fair enough..
              i incorrectly used 'forced'.
              what the user reported still sounds annoying.
              and.. you may ask yourself why they went to the trouble of incorporating rfid tags.

              my older daikin reminds me to change the filter yearly.. and the reminder can easily be reset.
              they could have done something similar.

              rfid chipping consumables is despicable imo
              (ie dymo label writer putting rfid in their consumables 'for safety and quality reasons' yeah dispicable)

              i think xia's advert said the filter lasts 'up to one year' which is why I posted that.. and i assume their claim is based on average conditions/use. yes.. it could last twice as long, and so could the daikin..

              • +1

                @jinkerjinx: That's fair, yes — it is annoying, and I wish they didn't use RFID tags at all.

              • +1

                @jinkerjinx:

                and.. you may ask yourself why they went to the trouble of incorporating rfid tags.

                They did this because loads of third party replacement filters started turning up in their main market. As this main market is China, it's understandable that Xiaomi was concerned about the probably extremely dodgy quality of a lot of these filters.

                Their overseas sales are a bit of an afterthought- the vast majority of Xiaomi products never even make it overseas, the Australian website is practically empty compared to their official Taobao (China) store.

                Off memory, the recommended replacement period is only 3 months, but you should never go by these recommendations as they are totally dependent on usage and pollution. I get over a year out of mine easily, using a prefilter, my own scheduling, and fan speeds that match my room size.

                @deadpoet @Jugganautx I appreciate the confirmation that the newer units still work with 'end of life' filters. I had stuck with the first gen purifiers specifically because they don't have the RFID readers. If I get more units (unlikely TBH) then I won't worry about this.

                • @rumblytangara: @rumblytangara

                  yes it's a bit like when dymo started releasing label writers that used nfc/rfid to lock you into only using their stock.. they say it's because they want their consumers to have the best experience.

                  there was a bit of a backlash on the amazon reviews
                  example:
                  https://www.amazon.com.au/LabelWriter-Automatic-Recognition-…

                  perhaps one day nike shoes will only work with nike socks :)

      • +8

        Xiaomi requires filter changes because they use hospital grade hepa 13 filters and activated carbon. This thing isn't hepa, it's fake hepa. You can run it for 10 years with no degradation because there was no hepa filtration to begin with. Their claims of destroying pollens and pathogens is based on plasma, which has fanciful claims to say the least.

        • +1

          if you have evidence their hepa claims are fake then please let the ACCC know.

          They get independently tested (apparently.. see the website for the various test labs).. and have the asthma council tick.

          perhaps the filter lasts so long due to the pre-filters taking the brunt.. and because you are supposed to clean it.

          I realise it's anecdotal but my own experience as an asthmatic/atopic/allergy sufferer is that the daikin purifiers are awesome. I couldn't vacuum without one on.

          • +1

            @jinkerjinx: The asthma tick is dubious - is it purchased?

            They don't declare a HEPA standard in any of their marketing literature, so would be hard to argue it's misleading. It could be H11 like the Ikea or kmart models - which would still improve air quality. Though I haven't heard of any H11 - H13 HEPA filters surviving >3 years (the electrostatic charge is destroyed in water). And the tests don't disclose any elevation of ozone or ionisation causing respiratory tract damage.

            I run hepa purifiers so understand their benefit - just be careful you're not improving one set of air quality metrics while creating future problems for yourself with the ionizers (the damage is cumulative).

            I have no interest in challenging the company - I just won't buy it.

            • +1

              @bargainshooter: @bargainshooter they don't declare hepa in their marketing? If you click 'go to deal' you'll find 'hepa' mentioned five times on that page.. and states it filters dust down to 0.3μm via a hepa filter.

            • @bargainshooter: They claim 99.<whatever> percent filtration of 0.3 micron particulates, which is the oft quoted standard for HEPA. Testing with my particle counters, I am happy to use them along my other purifiers.

          • @jinkerjinx: If you have asthma I would recommend you only vacuum with hepa filtered cleaners. Also, asthma is triggered by PM10 particulates, never PM2.5 - they are too small to directly/instantly irritate airways. But PM2.5 can lead to development of asthma, heart disease and other chronic issues. So your purifier may be filtering the particulates that trigger an asthma attack but not the stuff that can cause longer term problems.

            • @bargainshooter: daikin does filter pm2.5.
              it has a sensor and shows the levels of 2.5..
              when they are high, it runs higher, and the 2.5 levels plummet.

              are you trying to say their 2.5 detector is also fake?

              if not, then the filter system must be removing PM2.5

              the specs on daikins site says it removes PM0.3? (0.3μm)

            • @bargainshooter: What? If a filter filters out PM2.5 then PM10 being 4 times the size would surely get jammed in the filter? Basic physics or am I missing something? :S

        • Interesting. Yep carbon filters would need continual changing.
          Do you have the Xiaomi one out of curiosity?

          • +1

            @DannyBoy: I've tested and used various brands of purifiers. Several different xiaomi models. I liked their Pro H but that's no longer available. The samsung ax90 on special for $499 is probably the best in the market for a large room price/performance/sound level right now. But the carbon filters are bonded to the hepa making it less cost effective if you don't prefilter.

            • @bargainshooter: Right, it would almost pay to the reverse cycle unit do this that way your whole house is covered

  • +4

    Fart Clearance FTW

  • +2

    It seems like the "Market-leading Streamer Technology" would produce Ozone. Is that correct? Is it possible to turn that feature off?

    • +4

      ozone seems to be a concern for Daikin purifiers, according to the online information

      • that info may be old. my older daikin purifier had ionizer wires..
        the mc40 is built very differently.

        I couldn't find any concerns about these models/streamer tech.

        • do you know what's the use of pm2.5 sensor ?

          mc40 has pm2.5 sensor , no ionizer
          mc30 no pm2.5 sensor , no ionizer
          mc50 has ionizer + pm2.5 sensor

          • @dcep: the sensor is used to ramp the system up/down.. depending on air quality.
            you can adjust this sensitivity to low/med/hi

            • @jinkerjinx: Thanks. That makes sense.

              So with mc30 have to manually select low/med/hi , whilst the mc40 will auto ramp up/down depending on air quality i suppose.

              • @dcep: @phunkydude the brochure has more comparison info (i added a direct link to it in the description)

                • @jinkerjinx: Thanks.

                  Do you know if nitrogen oxide from vehicle emission is purified by the hepa filter , or the mc50 plasma ionizer?

                  • @dcep: unsure.. perhaps ask daikin.. or perhaps there's a dedicated air filter forum out there somewhere.. whirlpool perhaps.

    • +1

      unsure. i do know it's got the National Asthma Council Australia tick.. so it's probably safe.

      I don't think you can turn that feature off.

      • +1

        Damn.

        Thanks for the info.

      • I had this "air washer" with the asthma tick which apparently would "suck in" the bad air, run it through the water (washing it) and would push out the clean air.

        Sufficed to say the whole thing was a rort.

        • +3

          so a bong basically?
          sounds like something my mum would buy for me in hopes in would finally be the cure for asthma.

    • +7

      Yes it says 'In some cases the air outlet may emit a slight odour as trace amounts of
      ozone are generated. However, the amount is negligible and is not harmful
      to your health."

      https://www.daikin.com.au/sites/default/files/daikin-air-pur…

      I am new to this. How much ozone is dangerous? If it's on 24/7 and I'm sleeping next to it, do the trace amounts build up?

      • +4

        I avoid any purifier that produce Ozone. IMO better to do your own research on it, as there doesn't really appear to be a consensus.

        Manufacturers usually say the Ozone generated is within safe limits, but at the same time the VOC and other pollutants you are removing from the air is also most likely within EPA safe limits. It probably isn't a real big concern, but for me it is a deal breaker.

        • +4

          Your ceiling fan, refrigerator, air-conditioner probably all produce more ozone than this.

          • @Phoebus: ..laser printer.. i think. dunno

          • @Phoebus: Well now you are making me paranoid…

            Never heard of AC being a source of Ozone. Done some googling and I found this.
            https://temperaturemaster.com/do-air-conditioners-produce-oz…

            From a technical standpoint, older air conditioners using liquid coolant that produce chlorine as a byproduct do produce dangerous ozone.

            Just checked my oldest AC and it uses R-410A, which is Chlorine free, so I think I am safe. Not sure if it is only CFCs that contain chlorine.

      • +1

        I was also concerned and found this article: https://molekule.com/blog/which-air-purifiers-are-ozone-free…

        Will sit out on this one just to be on the safe side. Some things may be okay on the short term but prolong consumption may be an issue.

    • +5

      It creates both -ve and +ve ions. The idea is they neutralise each other. Biggest problem with this tech is it weighs down particulates - makes them stick to surfaces - like your respiratory tract. It's benefits haven't been proven and ionisers often lead to respiratory irritation, including development of asthma.

      The best thing you can do to improve air quality is take shit out (ie HEPA and activated carbon filtration) - not add stuff into the air to make it somehow clean it up.

    • +1

      apparently you can simply remove the streamer module.
      (i haven't tried myself.. not concerned about it)
      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/comment/13482116/redir

  • This vs inova air?

    • +5

      Lol are you serious? Inova only use hospital grade hepa (and no ionization). This is nowhere near Inova quality.

      • pardon my ignorance. Your comment made me educate myself this morning on ionisation and ozone, glad I didn't impulse buy this last night. Completely new to the air purifier world, I only know about Inova because a friend recently bought one and said how much they liked it.

        • +2

          Yeah unfortunately not all purifiers are equal. Inova is a very good brand but are also very expensive. There are much cheaper products that are reasonably equivalent. Just stay away from anything that generates ions or that can't have that feature switched off.

  • Is this better than an equivalent Philips in terms of features?

  • +4

    Which clown reported it sold out lol, it's definitely not sold out

  • +1

    If replacement filters are required, where can you get them? The KAFP080B4E filter.

    Looking online some daikin air purifiers have lifetime filter warranty. but doesn't look like this one has it.

  • +1

    Looks pretty good, too bad it just missed SB's 10%+10% cashback.

  • MC40 is the same price as MC30 smells fishy

    • +15

      That’s fine, they can ramp up the fan to rid of the fishy smell

  • +1

    Just reading the MC40 manual, the dust (presumably HEPA) filter lasts 10 years?

    “If the unit is used daily in a home where 5 cigarettes are smoked a day, the filter should be replaced about every 10 years.”

    Wait what? Philips, etc. seems to want new HEPAs a lot more frequently than that. Not sure why it’s so different?

    • Daikin make some of the best AC units, hence no surprise that their gear is top notch.

      • +4

        Lol it's not real HEPA.

        • incorrect imo

        • Proof?

          • +1

            @michael9865: proof who? if me.. well.. daikin states they've been independently tested certified hepa/0.3um.. they've been in the hepa tech decades. if they weren't genuine hepa.. their competitors would have pointed this out by now. being unable to do this, perhaps their competitors resort to blogs/posts about ions and ozone etc.

            • +1

              @jinkerjinx: Thought i clicked reply to @bargainshooter lol, unsure how that even happened

  • Got one. Thanks OP

  • Pulled the trigger on this. Thanks op

  • +4

    I never thought I needed one until this deal was posted.

  • +1

    Interesting, Choice didn't review these purifiers unfortunately…

    Ended up Purchasing the Daikin, Thanks OP!

    Bissel 320 Air is on Sale, Rated 71% & Recommended by choice

    Air 320 $229 Recommends filter replacement every 6 months, has two filters to replace costing $113.80 Yearly

    Carton Damaged $199, though comes with one year warranty compared to two.

    Choice Scoring: 71%

    Dust performance score 72%
    Smoke performance score 75%
    VOC performance score 45%

    • I bought this Daikin, but I wonder how this Bissell one compares to Daikin? First time hearing this brand

      • +1

        No idea personally i chose the Daikin because of it's consumables replacement cost is WAY less than the Bissel's yearly cost.

  • +1

    I had a Daikin before the xaiomi 3, Daikin was much better in my opinion, quieter as well. Good find op. Got it for $244 in the end, great bargain. At least now Xao can't track whenever I have gas

    • -2

      haha yeh was wondering if the xao butt probes during the night.. retrieves your gas.. uses in spy balloon

  • +1

    Thanks op just what we needed with winter coming up soon in Canberra I think this will help alot especially with all the burps and farts in the house ;)

    • yeh.. winter is hell for me because I live in a lower area.. the wood smoke/pollution sinks and sits like some biblical death fog.

      thanks for the thanks.. please consider +voting

  • Thanks OP, ordered one.

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