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Savings Maximiser 5.00% p.a. Interest on Balance up to $100,000 (Monthly Deposit, Balance & Spend Requirements) @ ING

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5.00% p.a. highest variable rate (made up of the standard variable rate and 4.45% p.a. additional variable rate) for customers who also have an Orange Everyday Bank account and do these things each month.

  1. Deposit at least $1,000 from an external source to any personal ING account in their name (excluding Living Super, Personal Loans and Orange One)
  2. Make 5 or more settled (not pending) eligible ING card purchases
  3. Grow their nominated Savings Maximiser balance (excluding interest earned for the current month).

When the criteria is met in a calendar month, the benefits and additional variable rate will apply in the next calendar month. Available on one account for balances up to $100,000.

The standard variable rate is 0.55% p.a.

Source: https://www.ing.com.au/rates-and-fees/interest-rate-announce…

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Until 30/6/2024, referrer and referee will each receive $75/$100/$125 for opening new Orange Everyday & Saving Maximiser Accounts.

Referrer: Do not participate in the referral system if you do not have a current $75/$100/$125 referral code.

Referee: To qualify, you are required to deposit a minimum $1,000 and make at least 5 (settled) card transactions within any calendar month.

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  • +35

    Kept .05% for themselves… ooOOoOooOooo

    • +7

      @Vortex99
      Kept .05% for themselves…

      Need it to upgrade the 386 Computer they run on currently ;)

      • +4

        You joke, but ING are running systems that are much older than most of the banks in this country.

        One of the reasons why ING failed to comply with Consumer Data Rights and was fined in December (not that I care tbh).

        https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/ing-bank-pays-penaltie…

      • +12

        upgrade the 386

        You mean 286? Some might think they are still using 16bit number to store everyone's 4-digit password.

      • +1

        DOS still beats Windows.

    • Meanwhile BOQ went and shot further ahead.

      • No they didn't, they're 0.10% below after last month's and the current rate rises. Not to mention past months where they didn't pass on the increase in full.

        • +2

          No, they're 0.15% ahead.

          Having said that, ING has a higher savings cap and no age cap (I'm comparing rates only, not banks).

          • -1

            @pennypincher98: That's not what's being referred to here, BOQ is always ahead of ING. Read above. BOQ needs to increase another 0.1% this month to pass on the rate rise.

            • +1

              @Techie4066: I get what you're saying but tbf they don't need to. Neither does ING. There isn't any legislation or incentive for the banks to, especially when they're already market leaders.

              BOQ was 3% while ING was still 1.35%. BOQ had recently increased by 1%, ING followed later with a 0.75% increase. Overall think BOQ has given more than what's required.

              • -1

                @pennypincher98: I know they're not required to, but banks like BOQ jump at the opportunity to immediately pass on the full rate rise to mortgage holders… just saying.

                Those large bumps still don't cover the cash rate increase from 0.1% to 3.6%, starting with the initial savings rate offering pre-inflation crisis / after the first RBA decision.

                • +1

                  @Techie4066: That is true but I think this more of a bank government regulation issue. Banks are just out to make money and there's no real alternative to use. End of the day, they basically all do the same thing and quite poorly at that.

          • @pennypincher98: From memory, the BOQ 50k limit is per account, and you can have 5 (or possibly up to 9?) of these accounts with a limit of 50k in each, all getting the same interest rate bonus from the 1 spendings account.

      • Boq %5.15 for under 35 but only 4.6% if your over 35years old
        ING 5.0% no age limit

        Ing also take 3 days to transfer your money out if you try to move more than $1000 per day

        • I've moved large sums many times from ING and it's always hit the other bank the same day, it's just not instantaneous. The 3 days thing is just a worst case scenario.

          • @bresmith: I have also transferred large sums from ING and it has always hit the other bank on the same day. A transfer could take 3 days if the transfer was initiated on a Friday evening after ING's 7PM (AEST/AEDT) cut-off time for transfers to other banks. In this case, you would see the funds credited to the other bank on Monday evening.

  • +6

    where's my 0.05% ahhhhh

    call for competition

  • +10

    Is this the first rate hike this cycle they haven't passed on fully?

    • +1

      yes, I think so…I think they were looking at what the other financial institutions were doing before they moved

    • +3

      Yes, but they have so far increased more than RBA hike.

      Ing interest rate was 1.35 when cash rate was 0.10.

  • +16

    pffft $100k max.
    I'll stay with Ubank and take the hit.

    • +2

      Why no rabobank ? 4.75%

      • +10

        only for initial 4 months

    • +13

      Also only require $200 a month deposit. No jumping through hoops!

      • +1

        Which bank only $200 deposit?

        • +4

          Ubank.

          Just need to deposit $200. No need to spend. No need to increase balance.

          I am using Ubank and Virgin Money at the moment (Virgin you need to do 5 transactions, 5x small bpay is fine)

          • @netjock: Which one offers better rate? uBank of virgin?
            Also can I deposit $200 then take it out for uBank?

            • +1

              @mrtee: Think they are both on the way up.

              Virgin: 4.55%, if you lock up for 32 days notice 4.85%, $2k deposit, 5 transactions, no need to grow balance.

              Ubank: 4.6%, 1st April. $200 deposit a month, no spend required, no need to grow balance

            • +13

              @mrtee: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/145iM6uuFS9m-Rul6…

              Everything is answered by the savings leaderboard. It should be posted in every one of these posts.

              • @Jofzar: Whenever I try to open this it always says no connection retry.

              • @Jofzar: They're missing the highest, and don't have all the criteria (which is understandable because criteria may change)

      • Issue with product (For example:)
        It does not work the way it should

        This product has been discussed on OzB to the nth degree.

        It's not a savings account, which is a cash deposit account, with a fixed interest rate, allowing complete liquidity.

        ING's product is a cash deposit account with a variable interest rate that is determined on whether it is utilized as a running month-to-month term deposit account (growing account balance, i.e. deposited amount is not withdrawn) or a true liquid savings account.

        • +3

          "It does not work the way it should I want it to work".

          It works exactly as it should, as advertised. If that doesn't suit then there are other options, albeit with lower interest. Your concept of a savings account is outdated, and clearly doesn't fit everyone's needs otherwise products like these wouldn't last.

          ING's prodcut is a savings account linked to a transaction account, with low standard interest and relatively high bonus interest. Nothing complex or misleading about the product and nothing really unique about the bonus interest concept.

          Hopefully the ACCC will examine financial institution' low stanard rates in its report to govt.

      • and don't need to make 5 transactions. I find Rabo easier.

    • +4

      why do you have so much in cash?

      • +9

        It might seem like a lot to you, but it’s actually less than 1% of their net worth. Kind of like petty cash, really

      • +2

        maybe they made all that cash by using this site ;-)

      • +21

        Need to keep it liquid for a house deposit :)
        Plus it's returning pretty much what the stock market is with zero stress

        • +2

          Aaaand the S&P 500 just shat itself again :D

    • same. Ubank is no hassle, and I don't keep that much cash anyway, so the difference is negligible

    • +5

      I've put $100k in ING, 5% no problem with "hoops" that even any lazy person can do.

      The rest with Great Southern Bank 4.65% before any rate hike they might pass this month. Easy hoops as well.

      Lazy Tax is expensive for those who can't be bothered with "hoops" that even any lazy person can do.

      • +16

        I've seen people in this sub bend over backwards for $5 cashback, but then turn their nose up for 2 mins work a month for hundreds of dollars in interest…

        • Just wondering, what did you mean by "in this sub"?

          • @mekktor: I used the incorrect term, it would've been short for "subreddit" but this isn't Reddit…

          • @mekktor: he’s one of those redditor’s who lives in their own bubbles

      • +1

        Yeah I don’t get it either honestly. Very easy requirements to fill which can make up so much difference in accrued interest payouts. Every time I tell people ING shits on most other banks purely on interest alone they use the requirements like it’s some sort of argument. The terms are very loose. Put 5c in if you can’t afford anymore, that still counts as growing your savings month on month.

        • Not to mention no fees, no international purchase fees, no teller fees, $0.50 rebate for cashouts (some rules apply)

          • +1

            @Igaf: The $0.50 rebate for cashouts has been discontinued.

            • @donotuse: Thx, didn't know. Likely due to abuse I guess.

        • +2

          First, someone posted "easy" instructions how to have multiple ING accounts, swap money from one to the other, to always get the interest. I read it at least 7 times but it still made no sense. Second, who plans to never make a large purchase. You have $100K, put $90K into ING, ok… but then you need to buy a second hand car in 6 months… you'll lose interest that month due to the withdrawal. So the $60 or whatever extra ING is above somewhere else like Ubank - you just lost a few times more than that. i.e. You need to know from day one you'll never touch that money again or you will lost one month of interest at some point. (Or you will if you can't understand that explanation by someone else I mentioned.)

          • @[Deactivated]: Lose a month and the interest rate is 4.63% (5- (5/12 - 0.55/12)).
            If you think you'll need a significant purchase or won't meet the ING criteria then the strategy is obvious. Have 1 savings account (ING, BoQ etc) and another which doesn't require your balance to grow (Ubank etc).

    • Just buy cba shares and dump them again once up?

  • +1

    Deposit at least $1,000 from an external source to any personal ING account in their name (excluding Living Super, Personal Loans and Orange One)

    Grow their nominated Savings Maximiser balance (excluding interest earned for the current month).

    So in 100 months everyone has 100K?

    • +7

      You can withdraw the $1000 instantly.

      Just need to grow your balance from what it was at the start of the month. You can add $0.01 to make that happen.

      • +2

        so start with 500,

        deposit 1k at start of month, do 5 transactions,

        then before end of month transfer out 999.99999

        • +1

          Yes you could do that if you wanted to get paid the interest on that $1000. I just withdraw the $1000 instantly unless im trying to increase my balance of my savings account.

        • +1

          You wouldn't want to take out 999.99 because that withdrawal combined with the 5 transactions would mean you haven't grown your balance.

        • +1

          last day of the month you just transfer from your maximiser to your everyday such that it leaves a few dollars more than the previous (also low) amount.
          This way you don't get burnt when you actually need to withdraw some funds.
          Just remember that February only has 28 days which slipped my mind this time around, sighs

    • +12

      it has taken me 100 months generate $65k…. to give to my landlord

      • +3

        So he can pay the loan for the property you are staying in.

        • +12

          It’s kind of like The Matrix, except that humans are farming humans

        • +2

          You say that as if there isn't a moral problem with taking out a mortgage for a property someone else will pay for.

          Fair enough if you own it outright, but the market is fu-ked because of all the people who do this.

          Housing should never have been able to be a financial investment.

  • -4

    as a quick calc, doing these few steps with ING on $100k balance is worth approx $40/mth
    vs
    $100k in <insert bank here> at 4.5% that might have less steps/effort required to qualify

    • +4

      480 a year, that's like 1,920 eneloops I could own!

    • +1

      it's actually around $416 interest a month….slightly more substantial;)

      • ~$416/mth is total interest at 5%
        Sorry my calc was just to compare the difference between 4.5% and 5% ($40/mth extra with ING)

    • +1

      still its $480 yearly extra

    • Can you explain the calculations you used to come to the conclusion that it’s $40/month worth of effort?

      • +1

        4.5% vs 5% on 100k, one is monthly $375 vs $416

  • +2

    ING have no real reason to raise to 5%. They are already leading the major bank market. Their only competition is BOQ (not a major bank); but knowing you're going to get an actual working website and app make ING the no-brainer option for most.

    This is amazing news.

    Note: There is a tacked on requirement of growing balance month after month with ING as opposed to BOQ. But- BOQ has maybe the most difficult requirement- their age limit.

    • +2

      They do have a good reason… because if you are going to jump through their annoying hoops you should be compensated for it.

      • +4

        It takes me under 5 minutes a month to jump through the hoops.

        1) Scheduled transfer in of $1,006.00, scheduled transfer out of $1,000.00
        2) 5 card transactions, I do 5 $1 transactions in a couple of minutes.

        Done.

        • +1

          Where do you do the 5x $1 transactions and what are you buying?

          • +2

            @TwentyTwoCarats: woolies/coles easy to do split transations

          • +4

            @TwentyTwoCarats: You buy a five dollar item at ColesWorth. Go to self checkout and then split the payment into five $1 card payments.

          • +5

            @TwentyTwoCarats: I do x5 $1 amazon gift cards. Make sure separate transactions. I'm overseas for a couple of months and found this to be most efficient.

            • @Miyagi: Where can you buy amazon gift value below $5 each card? Normally i do split payment at coles self-checkout machine $0.05*5 ( sometimes $0.01 does not work)

              • @bird380: 1 cent works with ING and Virgin Money. I usually do this on the 1st of the month. My pay goes into ING and my wife's goes into Virgin.

              • +1

                @bird380: On Amazon AU, buy electronic gift cards min $1. They send you giftcard redemption code via email instantly.

                • @Miyagi: Miyagi did you have to ring Ing? I tried buying the Amazon gift cards and they didn't recognise them as eligible Transactions

                • @Miyagi: thanks mate :)

            • @Miyagi: Why don't you tap and go in whatever country you're in as that works too.

              • @Lunarboogie: Not all countries have tap and go. Just easier for peace of mind to get it out the way each month.

          • @TwentyTwoCarats: My workplace and I buy chocolate.

        • -1

          What happens if you don't have an additional $6 to deposit one month? What happens if you, for example buy a new phone that month?

        • +1

          And if you forget to do this just once in a year, then effective rate is 4.6%, so you may as well forget the hassle and just use UBank.

        • Is that in and out on the same day?

          • +1

            @PvsNP: I schedule it the next day, but if you did it manually you could do in and out within a minute. It just as to register the deposit.

        • I've got my pay coming in and 5x automated transactions.

          Literally all I have to do is check what balance I need to be above (in the app) on the last day of the month, transfer the remainder from savings to the every account, then reverse that on the first day of the month.

        • Ok so with your movements you grew your balance by $1 and you get the interest payment of say $500
          But if you take those $500 out, wouldn’t that count as not growing the balance?

      • +4

        Anyone saying these hoops are annoying is being overly dramatic. It’s so easy to fill the requirements. Pay goes into ING, can come straight out, send a dollar to savings and buy a coffee twice a week with your card.

        Honestly you lot will go to the ends of the earth to save $5 but a few transfers with an app is annoying? Give me a break.

        • Yet you still don't explain what to do if you want to buy something, lets say a phone for $2000. How do you increase your savings?

          • -4

            @samfisher5986: You don't be a moron and avoid buying a $2000 phone with your savings. However if that is what you are saving for, then you don't need the interest anymore do you.

            • +1

              @OhmyRyzen: Wait so your entire solution is that if you have a savings account you just never spend the money?

              How does the money benefit you in the grave?

          • +1

            @samfisher5986: As Ryzen said, the idea of the account is to be a long term savings account, if you want a savings account for small purchases like that there are plenty of other options out there, but just aim to be in the positive at the end of your pay cycle and anything left over will build up and you can buy it that way.

            • +1

              @doobey1231: Who's idea is this? That seems like a pretty bad idea.

              Long term savings in a bank account (5-15 years) is a horrible place to put your money, you will have much better performance elsewhere.

              Its also a ridiculous concept, who is saving money for decades and not spending it?

              Are there a huge amount of ozbargainers putting money in their ING account so they can die and leave it to their kids?

              I doubt it.

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