Been looking at this exact model for a while, just happened to refresh Starbuy and it's on the 1 day sale.
Very close Seiko imitation of the Rolex Hulk
Seiko 5 Sports SRPD61K $285 Delivered @ Starbuy
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teamEvolution on 14/04/2023 - 13:16 starbuy.com.au (1690 clicks)
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That subreddit is so much more tolerable to read than the subreddit it's making fun of
Nice look, but for bang for buck for a diver IMHO can't go too far past a Steeldive/AddiesDive these days (Seiko NH35 movement, ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, lots of positive reviews here on OzB).
An even closer "homage" to the Rolex Hulk would be the SD1953.
Personally I'm not a fan of watches that blatantly rip off another brand's design. I appreciate the watch isn't presenting itself as a Rolex so it's not a "fake", but you can still tell it wants to be one.
Yeah I'd rather go with Seiko or Citizen who are pioneering and provide quality service for years down the track.
Also my values support these brands more than the Chinese based knock offs. The CCP have caused countless pains and frustrations for many friends and families and they do not support freedom and actively oppose democracy so I do my due diligence before purchasing."STEELDIVE is an independent watch brand Established in Guangzhou China at August 10, 2008"
I have a great deal of appreciation of Japanese culture, technology and watches, lived in Japan for several years and am still very much connected to it, however bit of a double standard going on here regarding "freedom" and "democracy". I do not use the actions of their government over time to generalise a justification as to why all manufacturers in that country should be disavowed of any customers.
You need to take a serious look into Japanese history at the time Seiko, Citizen et al. were founded as well as how poorly the Japanese government and populace still treat some ethnic and minority groups today, if you want your conscience to remain lily white when you use this straw man as a justification for buying Seiko.
There are certainly some Seiko models that I still covet today, however as to how much ongoing service and support they provide these days, you would be surprised at how much that has seriously degraded in recent years. Even more reason as to why you should be aiming for the performance of their old style Seiko 5s as they were built solid bang for buck with very low chance of requiring any after sales servicing, rather than some overpriced aesthetic relying on past reputation to sell and assembled in the same country that you are so strongly arguing should not be supported in any form.
Whilst Japan has done some bad things, that is in the past and times are different. It's wrong to hold current generation accountable for past generations actions.
As for:
"and assembled in the same country that you are so strongly arguing should not be supported in any form."You can check the county the watches are assembled in from their codes and my watch collection is not assembled in China.
@Exprise: "Some bad things" is about as revisionist as their own best rewriting and ongoing censorship of history text books.
I suspect your comfortable air of China bashing and rose coloured glasses around current Japan is based on accidental rather than wilful ignorance. Probably believe that deliberately propogated old chestnut that the Japanese are an inherently polite race as well.
I suggest you take look a little closer at Japan's current human rights record, including active historical censorship & ongoing imperialist revision of text books, with active celebration of convicted war criminals at the highest and most public levels; government censorship of media without any oversight, appeal or review mechanisms; treatment of their own indigenous peoples, plus ethnic Koreans (amongst many others); ongoing tokenistic and insulting reparations for comfort women despite documented evidence of wrongdoing; continued dogged refusal to become a signatory to the Hague Convention and deliberate sheltering of child abductors just because they are Japanese; current treatment by Police of sexual assault victims; minimal separation between criminal and judicial systems, that has resulted in many documented cases of incorrect application of the death penalty; and many open questions remaining as to the true level of "independence" that their democracy claims to have.
I don't condone human rights violations from any nation state, but blinkers don't justify such unbalanced application of your moral rationale.
@Exprise: <quote>
As for:
"and assembled in the same country that you are so strongly arguing should not be supported in any form."You can check the county the watches are assembled in from their codes and my watch collection is not assembled in China.
<unquote>And the K suffix for the model in this post means "a Seiko watch that is cased in Hong Kong (China)".
Guess you won't be buying this one then.
And as Seiko do so much business with and in China maybe you should be applying your high moral ideals to all of their offerings, just to be consistent with your above rationale.
@Exprise: “It's wrong to hold current generation accountable for past generations actions.”
Will someone please pass this on to Lydia Thorpe?@wolffram: Yep, we're on the same wavelength. Passing intergenerational concessions is so messed up for both sides.
If we have a voice to Parliament for 'x' then why can't we have a voice to Parliament for y, z and all the other people. Like the elderly, the disabled, the homeless, those without a voice etc
SRPD61K is not a dive watch. Its a fashion watch with diver markings.
It’s waterproof to 100m, has a rotating bezel, large hour markers and big lume. Just out of curiosity, what specifically disqualifies it from being a dive watch?
No screw down crown and the bezel is far worse than a regular Seiko dive watch. The description says "rotating bezel" which could be bidirectional; dive watches have unidirectional bezels. The standards for dive watches are in ISO 6425.
I have Seiko 5s and Seiko dive watches.
@ColonialBoy: Getting negged for asking a question I genuinely don't know the answer to. Gotta love OzB sometimes.
I didn't know there was an ISO standard for dive watches, so thank you for that. From the reviews I've seen, it LOOKS like a unidirectional bezel, but I could be wrong. I thought one of the biggest disqualifiers would be the lack of lume at the 12 mark on the bezel. Makes the bezel ultimately useless in the dark.
As the good old meme says, China is (profanity)
Apart from they fact they're both green(-ish) dive watches with similar indices, IMO this doesn't look like a submariner at all - and that's a good thing. A homage will always be just that.
Seiko has its design language, and that's part of what what makes them great.
Don’t need it. Ordered one. Thanks OP.
Don't get me wrong, I love Japanese watches.
I have many Seiko, Citizen and Orient automatics, a few quartz, plus several vintage digital Japanese watches in my collection.
I replied to a comment by the OP about how this model was a Seiko imitation of a Rolex Hulk, which is a stretch and showed something that is much closer in homage to that model at a much better value price point. I have a Steeldive and love it as a daily beater - with many of my much more expensive timepieces likey jealous of the wrist time it gets.
There was a time when the Seiko 5 was a great bang for buck and did what it promised i.e. very reliable and very affordable. I have several older style Seiko 5s in my collection, including a vintage hand-me-down from my now passed father, who likely wore it in the 1970s and it is still working well today without ever being serviced and probably sat still for decades before I inherited it.
The new incarnations of the Seiko 5s, although sometimes aesthetically pleasing, just miss the mark for me. The are neither great bang for buck nor hit the spot for performance specs of a solid diver, that would justify the relative increase in price.
For this I don't think Seiko should be supported, as they have lost the ethos of what Seiko 5s once were about.
There are some serious contenders coming out of Chinese makers, often using workhorse automatic movements from Seiko and Miyota and many of them not homages either, with great designs in their own right. There are some great bang for buck performers out there that should not be dismissed outright because of where they were manufactured. Although Orient still assembles mostly in Japan, these days Seiko and Citizen outsource much of their assembly to places like China, Malaysia etc. It is a furphy to say you are somehow supporting the original manufacturers of decent timepieces, who themselves have created more than a few homages over time, as they outsource much of the assembly to the same factories in China that make Steeldives.
YMMV, but I am not alone as an avid automatic watch collector in thinking that Seiko has seriously missed the mark in the bang for buck stakes in the last few years, esp. at the Seiko 5 level.
glass is not spahire? bezel is not ceramic? hmm
Well, it looks like Rolex as OP mentioned. so why shouldn't we buy and show others that we can't afford a real Rolex :D
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Love the colour. I'm tempted, but want to mod to a white face. Does anyone know a good starter tool kit for modding?