[NSW] Tenant or Landlord's Responsibility for LED Downlight in Bathroom

Pretty straightforward.

Landlord or tenant's responsibility.

This is one of the ones which are plugged into a 3 prong.
e.g. https://www.bunnings.com.au/arlec-6w-tri-colour-dimmable-led…

E: This is for NSW

Poll Options

  • 45
    Landlord
  • 15
    Tenant

Comments

  • +2

    "Rental provider" - however you can always swapsies for a zigbee/wifi one as long as it's the same size and you can put the original one back in when you leave :)

  • +5

    Tenants are responsible for minor maintenance including replacing light bulbs, cleaning windows, dusting, removing cobwebs and routine garden maintenance such as watering, mowing and weeding.

    https://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/housing-and-property/rent…

    I believe there's an exception for bulbs that are not standard units (e.g. cannot be reasonably found in local shops) or cannot be reasonably or safely reached by yourself without the need for additional specialist equipment (e.g. a chandelier above stairs that needs a cherry picker or other elevated platform setup).

    Check for your local state if it's not NSW.

    • Good point, forgot to add the state.

    • +1

      Is it the landlord's responsibility to make sure each light bulb socket actually has a working lightbulb in it when you move in?

      • +1

        Yes, a property should be handed over to the tenant with all light bulbs working.

    • +3

      It's not a bulb, it's a whole fitting.

  • +9

    It's a fitting, not a light bulb. "DIY" fittings are still the landlord's responsibility.

  • Are you asking because you'd like upgrade to that led light or does the light need maintenance, or is it no longer working?

    • Light doesn’t work.

      • +1

        If it were a simple twist globe, then I'd say tenant issue.

        As this requires replacing, then it's a landmord issue

  • OMG $9.80 and whingepool sent you here: Hey Kmart sells vlogging lights for $5 !

  • +2

    for $10 bux at bunnings, I'd have already changed it and lived happily ever after.

    • +2

      Exactly! It might or might not be a landlord responsibility but if it's going to cost $10 to just replace it, just fn do it and let them know as an FYI.
      The landlord would probably appreciate the fact that it's helping them save a couple of hundred bucks by not having to specifically send someone out to replace it.

  • +2

    NSW here too. Could be gray area here. Downlights are fitted directly into the ceiling via an opening. Depending on the prior electrician, it could be a plug or hard wired. If its hard wired, that should be at the cost / responsibility of the landlord not the tenant, I would argue anyway.

    To OP, if you are fairly handy, its not a hard swap but just be careful as you remove the light and check if its a plug or hard wired. If its hard wired, don't DIY.

  • Ask the real estate agent if the rental provider (RP) can change it.
    If they ask you to do it; ask if the rental provider knows the correct replacement part, and if they have instructions on how to change it. You can't see any obvious way to change it and you really don't want to damage the roof fumbling about trying to swap it

    This way you either get it swapped for you
    Or you are covered if you have to change it and something goes wrong.

    In the grand scheme of things, I believe this should be the RP responsibility as that is a light fitting, not a light bulb.
    Also in Vic, I remember seeing a VCAT ruling that mentioned light bulbs are the RP responsibility. I'll have to go digging for that link

    Practically, can you really complain with an excuse to go to Bunnings and get a snag?

    • Found it
      If there is an extra clause in your contract (in Vic at least), it is invalid

      The special clause which purported to place the obligation to replace light globes on the tenants is an attempt to modify the application of the RT Act, in that it purports to oblige the parties to ignore the concept of fair wear and tear, and make the tenants’ obligation to replace the globes absolute. The clause is therefore invalid

      http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VCAT…

  • -5

    Jesus OP. How f…ing cheap are you to question something like that?

    • If you have nothing nice to say then dont? This is a generic question because NSW lease agreement stipulates "light bulbs" only.

    • +1

      this isn't just about the price. Its about safety as well.

      You should read what others post before making a bold statement like that. Its unhelpful.

  • +1

    It's the landlords responsibility as it is a fixture not a bulb.

    2 major issues:
    * It may be hardwired in.
    * The potential for taking a chunk out of the plaster with the spring legs is quite high.

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