Concerns about Roof Work on New Build

LGilldeep on 22/04/2023 - 16:36
Last edited 24/04/2023 - 11:36 by 1 other user

Hey everyone, I recently had my builder finish the lock up stage on my property.

Unfortunately, there are several issues with the roof that need fixing. The blanketing on the roof is coming out, the screws used on the roof are unevenly placed and not in a consistent pattern. There are also several gaps that have been left unfilled, dents on the roof.

I've asked the builder to fix the problems before sending me an invoice, but they only added more screws and said I'd have to compromise on the look of the roof. I'm not sure what to do next, so I'm hoping the community can offer some advice.

Thank you!

Home & Garden Roofing

Comments

  • Dundundunnnn on 22/04/2023 - 16:50
    +76

    Shits (profanity). Get a building report asap.

    • Gilldeep on 22/04/2023 - 17:04
      +4

      Private building inspection ?

      • FoxJump on 22/04/2023 - 17:09
        +73

        not a prepurchase building report, but someone that checks all nooks for shit work. your roof is … probably the tip of the iceberg.

        • Gilldeep on 22/04/2023 - 18:18

          Private inspection for roof and brickwork. Do you recommend any inspection company ?

          • FoxJump on 22/04/2023 - 18:40

            @Gilldeep: are you in Vic?

          • wheretobuychocettes on 24/04/2023 - 11:32
            +5

            @Gilldeep: I had nothing but great experiences with these guys - specifically I had Dale for all my inspections.

            Their inspections saved me from accepting sub-par workmanship I would have been none the wiser to, and as a result has saved me tens of thousands of dollars (including the late fees the builder incurred while rectifying issues pointed out).

            • notfrodo on 24/04/2023 - 13:20
              +2

              @wheretobuychocettes: +1 for Darbecca. I have currently engaged them for our build.

            • BanannaMan on 26/04/2023 - 12:02

              @wheretobuychocettes: How much does it costs for an inspection? I was thinking of getting one done on a house I purchased - been living there 1yr

              • wheretobuychocettes on 26/04/2023 - 19:56

                @BanannaMan: I went through all of the stages of inspection during my build (with some of them repeated to ensure fixes were adequate) so my pricing will differ from your one-off. They take into account the size of the property/double storey, etc. to ensure it's fair to you and them alike.

                Although, if you've been there a year, I would sort of advise against a report being done now, unless you still have warranty with the builder… as anything they find will just make you sad otherwise. =D

                • BanannaMan on 27/04/2023 - 11:20
                  +1

                  @wheretobuychocettes: Haha it was a new build, so its only 1year old - Thats why I was thinking of getting it done as I have the warranty to chase them

            • Sammyboy on 18/04/2024 - 14:36

              @wheretobuychocettes: Darbecca dont climb onto the roof or go into the cavity space to check due to OH&S. Did you get someone separately to do the roof?

          • voo123 on 25/04/2023 - 16:17
            +3

            @Gilldeep: Site inspections (tik tok guy), Darbecca, new home buildingg inspections, Seville inspections are all reputable.

            Site inspections are expensive because of the tik tok celebrity status though.

            I am actually angry for you seeing this terrible workmanship.

            Make sure you get multistage inspection

      • stringbean402 on 23/04/2023 - 14:51
        +10

        Holy crap that’s bad. That is going to have major issues. Get a private builder inspector.

        I wouldn’t be making that progress payment.

        • Hangryuman on 23/04/2023 - 18:36
          +1

          yair that builder saw this customer as a live one

          don't pay another cent until it's fixed - that wavy roof is nothing like a professional job !

  • brendanm on 22/04/2023 - 16:57
    +41

    Holy crap, what absolute garbage. This is why I do everything myself, that is a joke.

    • tessel on 23/04/2023 - 08:41
      +7

      Yup. I replaced a sheet myself recently and (profanity) me what I did is amazing compared to this. That uneven over hang into the gutter. Holy (profanity). Considering what they charge you'd expect then to at least try and do a decent job.

  • AustriaBargain on 22/04/2023 - 17:02
    +3

    Who is going to pay to remove all that, dispose of it, and cover it with plastic before you get a professional to do it right?

  • FoxJump on 22/04/2023 - 17:07
    +49

    your builder's an idiot. im no expert but that roof looks shit, and should be ripped out and re done

  • Muzeeb on 22/04/2023 - 17:07
    +52

    That is bloody horrible. Are they even qualified? There is no way in hell that meets any standards. I feel really sorry for you OP. Good luck.

    This isn't even watertight. WTF?

    • stringbean402 on 23/04/2023 - 14:54
      +15

      Definitely not, it’s going to have the be ripped off and re-done.

      Builder has lost the cost of his Colorbond.

      Whatever you do don’t pay the builder until resolved.

    • BanannaMan on 26/04/2023 - 12:07

      This looks the perfect story for A Current Affair..

    • [Deactivated] on 22/04/2023 - 17:19
      -1

      I'm no builder either plus I don't even have a tool set however I reckon I could do a better job with a rolling pin!

  • AndyC1 on 22/04/2023 - 17:20
    +5

    Looks like it was done by a kids that were smokin the good stuff before they started.

  • timthetoolman on 22/04/2023 - 17:31
    +7

    Haha that is absolutely atrocious! Was it porter Davis on their last day of work?

    • [Deactivated] on 22/04/2023 - 17:57
      +1

      Would you be able to fix it?

      Maybe Pam can assist?

      ;)

  • yogihogi on 22/04/2023 - 17:54
    +10

    Wouldn’t be paying any invoice from him… also start looking for a new roofer as that all needs to be ripped out and replaced

    • Molebag on 24/04/2023 - 20:49

      This. Don't approve payment until remediated to your satisfaction

  • Surfsalot on 22/04/2023 - 18:29
    +7

    Wow, that’s as rough as guts.

  • deme on 22/04/2023 - 18:29
    -1

    https://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/

  • SBOB on 22/04/2023 - 20:29
    +16

    The wavyness in that third pic…that's some impressive effort of crapness

  • Surfsalot on 22/04/2023 - 21:34

    Hope they didn’t do the gutter and fascia too

  • Leanne59 on 22/04/2023 - 21:45
    +10

    Are you doing a construction loan through a bank? Surely the bank wouldn't make a payment on the shoddy workmanship,

  • Domingo on 22/04/2023 - 22:01

    I'm using Darbecca as my building inspector. They weren't great in terms of helping me engage them and get them out there, but their reports are very thorough and they are ready to stick it to my builder.

  • justgooddeals on 22/04/2023 - 22:41
    +1

    Are you sure you didn’t pay for an indoor water feature?

    Cause sure as s#it when it rains you will have water views in every room.

  • DGrayson82 on 22/04/2023 - 23:24
    +4

    I've seen some shoddy work in my time but this takes the cake…..Jesus. You should've hired a private building inspector from the beginning, its pretty much mandatory when building with a volume builder.

    • Jackson on 23/04/2023 - 23:54

      When you say hire a private building inspector, do you mean over and above the private certifier who is required? If so, what do these private building inspectors do aside from checking shoddy work? How often do they come out and inspect?

      • DGrayson82 on 24/04/2023 - 09:30

        Private certifiers only make sure that your house meets all local building codes and regulations. Private building inspectors are the ones that make sure that your house is free of defects etc
        I havent hired one myself yet as we haven't started building but you'd usually hire them during the different stages of the build (pre-slab, slab, frame, pre-plaster etc)

        • s12345 on 24/04/2023 - 14:58

          In NSW both are responsible for ensuring compliance with codes - the problem is the subbies usually have their own certifier , the person you are referring to as the 'private certifier', who often is a nobody that the subcontractor themselves picked up for this exact purpose and may not even have been certified for anything before, the said individual then signs off on non-compliant work and if it ever gets to tribunal the odds are the only penalty issued will be a requirement to complete a course, or maybe at worst a small $ fine, so unfortunately it makes business sense.

        • entropysbane on 26/04/2023 - 08:25

          The rot started when building inspection, once the role of councils, was privatised.

          Now contractors and builders have their pet inspectors and certifiers.

  • saltypete on 23/04/2023 - 00:15
    +4

    Sorry mate - that’s BS. Don’t pay. Unfortunately step one is to get a building inspection. If it looks like that on top I’d be expecting your sarking to be a worry as well.
    Also, consider getting your capping scribed.

  • Bluto Mindpretzel on 23/04/2023 - 00:21
    +2

    If that is the roof, I'd love the see the foundations! Dodgy as hell.

  • solidussnake on 23/04/2023 - 07:33
    +5

    Holy crap do not give the builder any more money, that's the quality work from airtasker it looks like.

    I'd also be worried for the rest of the build if I was you

  • smpantsonfire on 23/04/2023 - 07:53
    +2

    Damn, straight to the MBA with that, his response is not acceptable.

    • Jackson on 23/04/2023 - 23:56
      +1

      What have he MBA ever done for anyone?

    • Maximum64 on 24/04/2023 - 18:07

      MBA is absolutely not the right entity, they don't have an ounce of authority over shonky work like this.

  • original15 on 23/04/2023 - 08:02
    +4

    House built via airtasker? That is absolutely horrendous
    Do not pay for that work

  • shap08 on 23/04/2023 - 08:17
    +7

    The screws have been over tightened and the tension is messed up as well. This is a nightmare.

    • foolsgold on 23/04/2023 - 12:19
      +5

      agree whole thing needs to be ripped up, binned, and restarted. sheets are dented, valleys are dented, capping is capping nothing, scratches, exposed cuts, you could go on! no wonder the tik tok dude has so much content when shit like this is being spat out.

  • 82norm on 23/04/2023 - 08:18

    Don’t pay a single cent. That’s terrible.

  • verio on 23/04/2023 - 08:47
    +2

    In addition to the roof problems, I don’t think that are you supposed to pay the enclosed stage invoice before the brickwork is done.

  • SBOB on 23/04/2023 - 08:54
    +1

    I didnt realise Homer had started a roofing business
    https://tenor.com/view/grill-simpsons-gif-21458172

  • kiitos on 23/04/2023 - 09:02
    +1

    Yikes, if the builder is trying to smooth over that many obvious issues, you need a private building inspector to check everything else, especially the stuff that's not obvious.

    I feel for you OP, hope you get this sorted.

  • jeeg on 23/04/2023 - 09:02
    +16

    Builders and the tradies are supposed to be the professionals in the job. What a disgrace to the profession these days.

  • Worf on 23/04/2023 - 09:03

    That looks horrendous.

  • Versace999 on 23/04/2023 - 09:19
    +11

    No way that's acceptable work at all (commercial builder by trade here). Please either get a building inspector to protect yourself, or if not, email the builder with these photos and your concerns so you at least have proof of communication. Nothing nasty at all, just saying stuff like "hey, was having a look at the roof and was concerned about the roof sheet almost touching the edge of the gutter. Can you confirm with the Roofer/plumber that this is correct to the current standards?" And they won't be able to supply you with a standard, and the standard, and will need to rectify. You could also purchase the applicable AS/NZS standards and have a look yourself, it will be tedious but probably worth it as you're paying a lot of money here, and builders are (profanity) and won't fix them later without a lot of your time and energy.

    • Gilldeep on 23/04/2023 - 09:37

      Thanks, I sent an email to the builder with photos and issues, but unfortunately, he did not respond to my email. However, after a follow-up call, the builder has agreed to inspect the roof with another roofer and rectify the issues. But there is a catch - the builder has asked me to pay the invoice first. According to the contract, I have only 7 days to make the payment, otherwise, I will be charged with 20% interest.

      • solidussnake on 23/04/2023 - 09:48
        +43

        You would be crazy to pay any more until that dogs breakfast is rectified.

        Seek legal advice

        • lostgoat on 23/04/2023 - 09:51
          +1

          Yeap and some of the legal advice boys are starving for business.
          They need some dough too .

      • icanconfirm on 23/04/2023 - 09:48

        That's messed up. I'm really sorry you're going through this. Who's the builder?

      • JIMB0 on 23/04/2023 - 09:50
        +19

        I'm sure the work is not completed as per the contract so no money would be due. Do not pay until it is right or you'll never get it fixed.

        • stemcell on 23/04/2023 - 09:54
          +6

          You pay them and nothing will be done, seek legal advice

      • altomic on 23/04/2023 - 10:06
        +7

        the contract probably has a clause about quality and finish to a certain standard.

        that work is complete shit.

        totally substandard.

        my brother did his own roof (he's an office worker) and it was a 100 times better than that .

      • foolsgold on 23/04/2023 - 12:17
        +2

        what type of contract are you using? please call the VBA and make a complaint about which ever dodgy plumber is lending out his licence to that butcher and get him unlicensed as well. absolute joke builders like this preying on people. The screws not even sitting flush with the sheet.

      • Spam Service on 23/04/2023 - 12:27
        +5

        But there is a catch - the builder has asked me to pay the invoice first. According to the contract, I have only 7 days to make the payment, otherwise, I will be charged with 20% interest.

        You're saying that the builder will rectify the issues. This means the job is not complete. Once it is complete, then you make the payment.

        Seek legal advice. If you pay now, I can guarantee that they will 'inspect with another roofer' and say it's OK, and do nothing but take your money. That roof has not been completed to an appropriate standard, and you shouldn't pay until it is. Your contract will say as much.

      • stringbean402 on 23/04/2023 - 14:57
        +3

        Nope and nope. Builder is desperate.

        Please OP speak with a solicitor.

      • FoxJump on 23/04/2023 - 15:42
        +8

        don't pay. 20% interest for a few weeks is better than a pos house with tons of defects that were not rectified.

        plus id argue they breached the contract first by building a shit roof

      • Leanne59 on 23/04/2023 - 19:15
        +8

        According to the contract the workmanship should be of a good quality I assume so the 7 days only starts once all the issues are fixed. If you make the payment then you are basically saying you accept the "shit" job that was done.

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