Please Help Me to Identify This Tree

MondaySleeper on 24/04/2023 - 22:22
Last edited 25/04/2023 - 10:00

Hi

We are looking for buying a property and went for an open-house recently. We liked the property but there is a tree in the front yard- Its actually huge and probably 6-8 meters from the entrance.

We checked with the agent but he is not sure what kind of tree is it? It looks like Gum Tree but I am not 100% sure.

https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/62529/103217/tree1.jpg
https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/62529/103218/t2.jpg
https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/62529/103219/t3.jpg
https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/62529/103223/t4.jpg

Gumtreee seems to be protected and I was told by others that its usually considered as a risk and getting rid of the tree is a messy job.

Are properties like this a no-go zone?

Thanks a lot for your suggestions.

Update:
Added T4.jpg after removing all info that could identify the house. Don't want to cause any issue for the seller :)

Home & Garden Tree

Comments

  • skid on 24/04/2023 - 22:32
    +1

    Need my glasses, but I think that is a paperbark tree and is protected.

    Not necessarily a no-go zone, but probably would prefer a property that did not have this huge tree in front of it.

    • AndyC1 on 24/04/2023 - 22:43
      +1

      !00% correct that is is a paperbark. Google paperbark for details.

      In most urban areas an tree with a diameter more than 20cm is protected, unless it is dead or diseased or …

      Never seen any tree limbs under a paperbark tree when I was growing up, but seen heaps of tree limbs under gum trees and heard limbs of gumtrees drop while fishing.

    • MondaySleeper on 24/04/2023 - 22:43

      Thanks. I just googled the 'paperbark tree' and now I remember seeing lot of paper like 'flakes/skin' around its trunk

  • miwahni on 24/04/2023 - 22:41
    +1

    As per @skid above, it appears to be a paperbark tree. In NSW, any tree over 12 metres in height is a protected tree, and it looks like that might be just a tad higher…. the good news though is that any tree within three metres of a house or building can be removed without council approval.

    Paperbarks are melaleucas, not eucalypts, so you shouldn't have the random branch dropping that eucalypts are prone to, if you do decide to keep it.

  • foxmulder on 24/04/2023 - 22:43
    +1

    I thought any tree is protected as long as they are more than 15m and not leaning toward any direction.

  • chrisie on 24/04/2023 - 22:45
    +4

    Anyone notice the Koala in the tree ?

  • mskeggs on 24/04/2023 - 23:22
    +8

    Always surprises me that people don’t want to live with trees.

    • MondaySleeper on 24/04/2023 - 23:33
      +1

      No dislike towards trees in general, rather we love the vegetation around our current home. Some of the trees are not permitted to be planted now, and some horrible stories about the tree roots causing damages to the buildings and sewage systems. This is especially true in city where land size is shrinking day by day

    • 1st-Amendment on 25/04/2023 - 09:57

      Always surprises me that people don’t want to live with trees.

      Is there a middle ground between a full-on jungle and no trees?

      • mskeggs on 25/04/2023 - 13:58

        Yes? The picture shows this is the single tree in the front yard, though looks like there is a shrub on the footpath.
        So it is currently one tree more than ‘no trees’.

        • 1st-Amendment on 25/04/2023 - 17:54

          So it is currently one tree more than ‘no trees’.

          There's 3 Trillion trees on earth. So it's at least 3 trillion more trees than no trees…
          Some people don't want this happening to them, I'm not sure why this is a surprise to anyone: https://www.google.com/search?q=tree+falls+killing

          • mskeggs on 25/04/2023 - 21:51
            +1

            @1st-Amendment: OK. But as I said, it always surprises me that people don’t want to live with trees.
            Chance of an injury or death from that particular tree are almost nil, but the shade, pleasant greenery and cooling from that tree are ongoing, so I am surprised people would find it objectionable.

            Much more risk of bad outcomes from the nearby road.
            Luckily, there are increasing urban areas for the fearful where they will see few trees without adding to them.

            • 1st-Amendment on 26/04/2023 - 08:26

              @mskeggs:

              it always surprises me that people don’t want to live with trees.

              Maybe you've just never had to live with a lot of them?

              Chance of an injury or death from that particular tree are almost nil,

              I've already had a large one fall on my property so that is not nil. A friend of mine had a gum drop a hug branch on her car writing it off. This is not 'nil'

              but the shade, pleasant greenery and cooling from that tree are ongoing, so I am surprised people would find it objectionable.

              Think of it like this, prefer prefer golf courses to jungles. Because it's not that people want no trees, but most people want enough trees to be useful over too many trees that are destructive.

              I have a street near me where they planted a LOT of trees. Most surrounding streets have a good balance of tree to open space, but this street is all trees. so many that it gets no sun at all ever. It's dark and dank and knee deep in leaves all the time. No solar power for you!
              It's the worst street in the suburb because of all of the trees. If they had half as many trees it would look and feel heaps better, but Greenies have made it impossible to cut them down, so those people will be stuck in their dark forest for decades to come.

              So yeah, some trees good. No trees or too many trees bad.

  • sumyungguy on 25/04/2023 - 00:10
    +1

    I used iOS Visual Look Up on your first image and got Melaleuca quinquenervia, the broad-leaved paperbark. PictureThis app also does visual plant searches.

    • MondaySleeper on 25/04/2023 - 10:02

      Thanks for the info. I tried with google but somehow it didn't work.

  • jv on 25/04/2023 - 00:36
    +3

    Please Help Me to Identify This Tree

    That is Boris.

    • Euphemistic on 25/04/2023 - 08:08

      So it’s he/him?

      • DashCam AKA Rolts on 25/04/2023 - 08:43
        +2

        Are you assuming Boris's pronouns?

        • Euphemistic on 25/04/2023 - 09:44
          +1

          No. That’s why there’s a question mark. Pronouns identify, I was wondering what they are.

  • Euphemistic on 25/04/2023 - 08:10
    +2

    It’s well established, so likely any damage it’s going to do will already be done.

    If you like the property buy it, unless you want the tree gone. It’ll be a headache to get rid of it due to permits and expense.

    When buying I’d consider that tree an asset rather than a liability.

    • MondaySleeper on 25/04/2023 - 10:01

      You are right. This tree is not permitted for planting now in NSW.
      https://www.facs.nsw.gov.au/housing/living/rights-responsibi…

      • heysi on 25/04/2023 - 11:16

        That website is only for people living in social housing in NSW, and paperbarks are conditionally allowed:

        We will only grant approval to plant them if they are six metres or more away from a sewer, water or stormwater pipe.

    • 1st-Amendment on 25/04/2023 - 10:05

      When buying I’d consider that tree an asset rather than a liability.

      I've had a large tree fall on my property and was just luck that no-one was home at the time, so I'd consider something like this a liability.

      • MondaySleeper on 25/04/2023 - 10:07

        Agree. Heard many horror stories like this, and the invasive roots causing damages for the drainage within the property and for the neighboring properties. So we are in a confused state - more towards not to buy it.

        • Euphemistic on 25/04/2023 - 10:26
          +2

          So don’t buy it.

  • Sammy2000 on 25/04/2023 - 08:59
    +2

    I would buy the property for a well established native tree of my own.

  • Surfsalot on 25/04/2023 - 09:47

    Too close to the house at 6m

  • Webber000 on 25/04/2023 - 12:33

    FYI - if you download the Google LENS app then you can point your camera at a tree, insect, flower, etc and it identifies it down to the exact species.

  • cupcake on 26/04/2023 - 10:53
    +1

    It's fine if it doesn't fall over onto the house.
    It's fine if the root system doesn't get into your pipes.
    It's fine if it's not riddled with termites.
    It's fine if you can trim it or cut it down.

    I wouldn't buy it. It's too close to the house.

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