This AirSense™ 10 AutoSet™ and ResMed Mask offer includes: Airsense 10 AutoSet™ Card-to-Cloud* CPAP Machine and a ResMed AitFit CPAP Mask (of your choice)
*Card-to-cloud: no wireless data transmission capability and no compatibility with myAir.
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No comms at all. You need to remove the SD card and do whatever - if you use Oscar you will be doing this anyway.
https://shop.resmed.com.au/resmed-airsense-10-card-to-cloud-…
Wi-Fi enabled SD-Cards can come in handy.
That's missing a mask, actually.. but yes your point is valid there is cheaper at $1,429
Thanks. Cheaper elsewhere.
https://www.thecpapclinic.com.au/products/airsense-10-autose…
$1,429 Includes ResMed mask (pretty much their standard price, can often find deals for $~1,200)
Note: While a great product Australia has been stuck with this old out dated model for ages. Pretty easy to find an AirSense 11 (smaller, slightly louder), but far more advanced software and Bluetooth to talk directly to the app on your phone.
AirSense 10 with the card to cloud, who the heck can be bothered, removing an SD card and uploading to cloud on a regular basis.
FYI: Also note the on-going running costs….
Mask: Should be replaced every three months.
Nasal Pillow: Should replace your cushion or nasal pillows once or twice a month. Over time, dirt and oils from your skin can soften the cushion, making it so it doesn’t hold a tight seal anymore with your face. It also affects hygiene. This creates air leaks that can affect how effective your CPAP therapy is.
Headgear and chinstraps: Should be replaced every six months.
Tube: Replace your CPAP tube once every three months like you do with your mask. A CPAP tube can develop cracks and tears with frequent use that result in air leaks. You won’t receive proper treatment if air is escaping. Plus, the tube can harbor bacteria, particularly if there’s condensation inside.
CPAP humidifier water chamber: Replace this every six months.
LOL. I bet they'd love that kind of revenue stream.
Full face mask/pillow: Got 5 years out the last one. Regularly cleaned and dunked in a bucket of Milton.
Headgear: Replace every few months with $5 neoprene ones.
Tube: Got maybe 7 years before it gave up. Goes in the same bucket of Milton every few weeks.
CPAP humidifier water chamber: The one on mine started leaking after 4 years. Used to Milton that too. When it broke I actually found that my mouth didn't get particularly dry so I've never bought a replacement.
This guy CPAPs. Well said, @hotphil.
You simply need to clean the components regularly with warm water & if appropriate, mild dish soap. Replace the components when or if they fail after years of use.
The one thing you should replace regularly is the air filters themselves. I recommend a hypoallergenic filter as it'll trap more dust, participants that otherwise get in your lungs and/or inside the machine which will shorten its lifestyle. This may need to occur every few months. It's maybe $3 per filter?
Finally, these machines & components are able to be claimed in your health insurance.
The one thing you should replace regularly is the air filters themselves.
A good idea. Thankfully, the device can be set with a reminder. I have mine set for 6 months.
@tommypickles: For my model, the air filters stop particles down to 3 micron and are $10 for a four pack. I just cut replacements out from some filters that go in reusable masks that stop 2.5 micron. Way cheaper and close enough lol.
Not all insurance covers cpap
This is the way. Knowing ResMed though, warranty claims may be difficult if you don't follow the service guidelines.
OK, I'll bite. I really think your concern on cloud being the only way is misplaced.
Having the ability to manually inspect your data is invaluable. Using free software like OSCAR or 3rd party sites like SleepHQ that offer a range of support services beyond what ResMed provides from their cloud. It frees you to make your own choices. You can still take the card with you to your next doctor/sleep technician appointment and it's just as easy for them to review.
The process of take a card out of a machine, place it into a PC/Mac is not painful and in return you'll get richly detailed data that you can peruse or share at your leisure. If that's too much, you can also view the sleep report on the machine if you want that will provide a high-level summary. You don't need to use ResMed's app. However I do understand if you find the Personal Therapy Assistant and Care Check-In of AirSense 11 compelling — so yes, get a 4G option if you prefer the simplicity of having their clinicians view your data vs a local practitioner or 3rd party site like SleepHQ.
Now to address your second part, about AirSense 11.
Small motors require faster RPMs to push the same volume of air as a large motor. More RPMs from a smaller motor isn't just more noise, it's also higher frequency noise that is far more noticeable & irritating. There is also significant challenges (read: design flaws) with the water reservoir in the Airsense 11. You can read more about people's concerns on Airsense 11 here
Why build a worse machine? Cost savings & streamlining production, especially in light of the recent years of supply chain issues globally. ResMed decided to streamline their production lines so that their new AirMini & AirSense 11 use the same motors & components. It is a compromise, not an upgrade. Bluetooth is nice, sure.
Not at all, my issue is the manual removal of the card and upload. (Quite fiddly to remove the SD card from this unit, at least it's the standard lager size) then find a device with an SD card reader, then most other countries have had the newer BlueTooth enabled model for years.
So U have no issue with the cloud, just that ResMed had delayed the launch of the 11 for years in this country.
The software on the 11 is leaps and bounds ahead.
So it’s a software upgrade and a hardware downgrade?
@krouton24: No, you can't say that either.
Depends on your treatment requirement if the software is of benefit.
If you are happy with "auto" then 10 is more reliable, no risk of breaking with future firmware\software updates.
I prefer the 10, mainly for the adjustable elbow, noise couldn't tell the difference. The 11 is a LOT quieter than the travel but only a little louder than the 10. The 11 uses a lot less power (electricity) and is lighter.
Even if they release the 11 soon, parts ect… will likely be more expensive, as there are a lot of 3rd party parts\options for the 10.
Best to trial a 10.
Great post.
I am getting a Lowenstein prisma 20A tomorrow for trialling.
The motor is bigger in the RedMed Airsense 10.
The Airsense 11 uses the same motor as the resmed air mini.
My Airsense 10 hasnt missed a beat in 6 years and still going strong. Why fix something that aint broke. The smaller motor is yet to be seen whether its as good.
On the weekend for $1575 got the 4G resmed 10 Auto with 2 masks of choice.
From these guys but I think promotion ended yesterday.
https://www.nswcpap.com.au/products/resmed-airsense-10-autos…
Moving stock they built with no 4g to save on costs/chip delays but without actually reducing the price…. No deal here as many stated above
Ouch. Need 4G at this price.
FWIW I paid $1399 at the start of March 2023 for this same combination over at cpaponline.com.au with a negotiated offer as our family had previously purchased multiple machines in weeks prior. Maybe speak to the chat folks there as they were quite responsive. I recall it was only a minor saving as it was regularly at $1449 from multiple providers at the time, so do shop around.
Out of curiosity, is this to diagnose/cure/monitor snoring? Monitor the vital signs and alert?
I got mine for sleep apnea, but my partner says that it's cured my snoring also.
Sleep apnea, but will prevent snoring in most people.
Positive Pressure isn't the most enjoyable experience, whenever you open your mouth, air rushes out (feel like gasping), so you quickly learn to keep it closed and hence no snoring.
Not suitable for a few pre-existing conditions such as low blood pressure, so best to check with your doctor first.
so you breathe through your nose?
I didn't but I do when I use these!!!
@ilove: You can trial from ResMed and other places, usually $35 a week with no commitment.
Their default MASK is the Nose Pillow (not really a mask), which most people find the most comfortable.
Is this a better deal for the same machine ? https://cpapdiscountwarehouse.com.au/products/resmed-airsens… - also 4G seems to be the better option now ?
Definitely! Got one from these guys not long ago. Can totally recommend.
Yeaah, it is cheaper
Lots of good info guys. Thanks.
Came across this s/h US cpap site - https://www.secondwindcpap.com/ - haven't checked it out properly yet. Did see they say no 10% gst below $1000.
no 4G?