Floating Timber + Ducted Aircon Cost

justanick on 14/05/2023 - 00:52

Hi All,

I’m helping out a family member and came here for support. They live in Sydney South.
They have single level free standing full brick house built in year 2000.
Looking for a rough estimate on:
1) Floating timber 100m2 area not looking for high grade but somewhat okay which will not be an issue if you spill water or liquid. I don’t know the type of material as there are so many options. They have older ugly tiles in their house and put like to put timber flooring on top of it.
A)What would be the cost of floating laminate, materials and side skirting cost?
B) Labour costs?

2) They have ducted aircon but doesn’t have good zoning and it’s not working well. What would be a good estimate for 4 bedroom two living area, one dining area so 7 ducts and two or more zoning options reverse cycle aircon going to cost?

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  • Euphemistic on 14/05/2023 - 06:25
    +2

    Lots of variables. Ring suppliers and get quotes.

  • SBOB on 14/05/2023 - 06:35
    +1

    2) They have ducted aircon but doesn’t have good zoning and it’s not working well. What would be a good estimate for 4 bedroom two living area, one dining area so 7 ducts and two or more zoning options reverse cycle aircon going to cost

    $10k would be a rough starting guide, but depends on m2 house sizing etc
    Definitely need to get some ducted installers out to quote

    • Muzeeb on 14/05/2023 - 08:09
      +1

      I'm guessing closer to $15k in today's market.

      • thatonethere on 14/05/2023 - 08:23

        Yeah easy $15k. Hopefully the the ducting is newish and can be re used and added to.

      • SBOB on 14/05/2023 - 08:29

        Possibly.
        Without house size, orientation, and cooling/heating load requirements it's hard to guess :)

      • elgrande on 14/05/2023 - 09:02

        What about these prices?

        https://www.airconditioning-online.com.au/split-system-air-c…

        • dcep on 14/05/2023 - 11:40
          +2

          These 2 close to OP's requirement.

          $9,390.00 - Fully Installed TOSHIBA RAV-GM1601BTP-A / RAV-GM1601ATP-A 14kW Ducted System Single Phase
          https://www.airconditioning-online.com.au/product/fully-inst…
          8 outlets and 2 zones
          Based on Single Storey dwelling
          Installed by License and Arctick Certified Installers
          Outdoor unit to be placed on Concrete slab | PVC Slab | PVC Mounting Blocks.
          Weatherproof isolator placed at outdoor.
          Use of PVC or Colourbond Ducts.
          Includes electrical circuit up to 15 metres.
          5 years full manufacturer warranty on Parts and Labour.

          $8,277.00 - Fully Installed Package Mitsubishi Electric PEAMS125GAAVKIT 12.5kW Fully Installed Ducted Package
          https://www.airconditioning-online.com.au/product/mitsubishi…
          6 Outlets and 2 Zones
          Based on Single Storey dwelling
          Single Fan Outdoor Unit
          Installed by License and Arctick Certified Installers
          Outdoor unit to be placed on Concrete slab | PVC Slab | PVC Mounting Blocks.
          Weatherproof isolator placed at outdoor.
          Use of PVC or Colourbond Ducts.
          Includes electrical circuit up to 15 metres.

          Fully Installed Packages can only be purchased in Sydney and Central Coast only.

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  • Shoocat on 14/05/2023 - 08:46

    As others have said, simply too many variables. Including what grade and type of flooring or size of aircon setup you want.

    You should do some research into ducted central systems vs multiple split systems. There's benefits and down sides to both, but worth understanding the difference.

  • mskeggs on 14/05/2023 - 08:58
    +1

    I’m a big fan (ha!) of one or more stand alone split systems instead of a whole house ducted system.
    This might also be more cost effective in this situation - leave the existing ducted system in place an add an inexpensive split system in the room they want to operate stand alone. Assuming that is a lounge or bedroom, they can just heat/cool that room as needed, e.g. in spring/autumn, but can then run the existing system when they want the whole place warmer/cooler on occasions in winter or summer.

  • justanick on 14/05/2023 - 14:02

    Great thank you so much. This definitely gives me a good idea on the air conditioning costs.

    What about the floating timber? Should I go for vinyl or 8mm timber? How much is labour for 100m2 area?

    This is the colour we are after.

    https://www.bunnings.com.au/senso-914-x-152-x-2mm-2-20m2-urb…

  • woodg on 15/05/2023 - 17:10

    Something to be aware of with floating timber floors. Most (maybe all?) floating timber floors have the top timber surface pre-sealed, so the floor can simply be installed without any further sealing. This makes the surface of the timber fairly safe if water is spilled. BUT, the water can still get into the joints and could cause swelling. You don't see this with solid timer floors as they are sealed after installation and therefore the joints are sealed too.

  • justanick on 16/05/2023 - 02:31

    Thank you. We are planning to use floating timber on top of tiles. The side walls around has tiles too. How do you cover them? It’s brick house and don’t want to knock down those tiles. Any idea or some online links to help?

    Edit:
    What I meant was there’s tiles all over the house instead of baseboards. Can we install baseboards on top of the tiles and make the tiles disappear and look good? I can’t find any YouTube videos on this type of setting.

  • justanick on 16/05/2023 - 15:27

    Can someone please help share a video or a link where I can find out how to cover tiles on the walls with baseboards after installing floating timber on the floor? I took a picture of the current layout.

    https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/100944/103701/img_9357…

    • jorf on 16/05/2023 - 15:34
      +1

      Not sure you can unless you want to get fancy with some tall skirting and a router.

      Probably better to rip them off and then cover with new skirting to the same height.

      • SBOB on 16/05/2023 - 15:56

        yep, smash off wall tiles, lay floating flooring, new skirting boards to required min height to cover previous tile damage adhesive on wall.

        • justanick on 16/05/2023 - 16:02

          Here’s the problem mate. I need a genius idea without smashing the tiles on the concrete wall. It’s more expensive to smash these by a tradesmen and my family member wants a cost effective solution.

          • jorf on 16/05/2023 - 16:07
            +1

            @justanick: The adhesive (usually) isn't that serious. Get a chisel behind them and they should pop off.

          • SBOB on 16/05/2023 - 16:54

            @justanick:

            It’s more expensive to smash these by a tradesmen

            fancy moulding and labour to cover will cost more than a flat bladed cold chisel and a hammer.
            Based on looking at the age i reckon most would fall off in a single hit :)

            • justanick on 16/05/2023 - 21:38

              @SBOB: Thank you guys.
              Where can I start getting the quotes? There are so many people who got these done at various price range. Wondering where to get a decent honest tradie to do the job.

              Can the same person do the carpets replaced in the bedrooms?

              Do I buy the timber flooring and carpets from Bunnings and they will charge for the labor?

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