Recent Experience Making Payments in Japan

It had been five years since we'd been to Japan and I couldn't really find up to date information about how well Australian cards worked and how cashless you could go these days in Japan.

So here is some anecdotal information from our trip (April/May) which is hopefully helpful to someone. This is from in and around Tokyo and Nagoya, YMMV outside the big cities.

  • 30% of the time I was able to pay tapping my card the same as I do in Australia, this was my preference where available. Note some terminals appear to support tapping, but I was asked to insert my card.
  • 30% of the time I had to insert my card and do nothing further - I never had to enter a PIN when making purchases.
  • 30% of the time I had to insert my card and then sign my signature - usually on a digital thing, but sometimes on a paper receipt.
  • 10% of the time was cash only. Some things I can recall are charging Suica transport card, gachapon capsule machine, coin laundry, paying to send luggage at the hotel, paying for an activity at the aquarium, small street vendor. Not included in this is I did sometimes use cash out of habit and for small amounts.

These are the cards I used:

  • 28 Degrees Mastercard credit card - no international transaction fees, I rarely used this in person, but used it to book things online as sometimes debit doesn't work. If using online make sure you can receive SMSs as sometimes you need the enter a security code.
  • ING Visa debit card - I did the 5 transactions thing the month before to unlock international fee rebates (I hear the international ATM rebates are going away soon though). Fees and rebates show up in transaction history. My wife used this most.
  • UBank Visa debit card - I got the new card a few weeks before we left. The new app didn't have a way of informing about overseas travel, so I didn't bother telling them and they blocked my card eventually and sent me an SMS, but they automatically unblocked it when I replied to confirm it was me. Free international transactions, no fees show up in transaction history.

Some notes:

  • As far as I can tell I was never charged any surcharges for paying with card by vendors.
  • I did a sample of calculating the exchange rate on some of the transactions and it always appeared to be about the mid market rate. A couple times I was offered to be charged in Australian dollars and the rate was always worse.
  • A couple times I was asked to show them the symbols on my card to see if they support it.
  • Even for relatively small amounts I was still sometimes asked if I want to do it as a single payment (一括), I always said yes, but would be interested if there is any benefit splitting it on a non-Japanese card.
  • A few times inserting card would error and I'd have to try again. On self serve machines this is kind of annoying as you have to call staff over.
  • I didn't use any of the payment apps. The only one I was able to setup successfully was Line Pay, but paying with card seemed easier and the only benefit with the apps seemed to be accumulating points and I didn't think it would be worth it for a short trip. Support also varied between stores. I'd be interested to hear other opinions.
  • We were able to load an existing Suica onto my wife's iPhone, but weren't able to charge it with any of our cards. Also note not all the machines can charge mobile Suica.

As a result of mostly paying by card I only used ATMs twice. Once with AEON which allowed up to 50,000 yen, with no fees on the Japan side and $5 by ING that was rebated. With 7-11 ATM I was charged 220 yen on the Japan side (for up to 100,000 yen, I think it was 110 yen for below 10,000 yen) and $5 again by ING, both rebated.

If anyone has any other tips, I'd love to hear them for next time.

Comments

  • +1

    I remember Suica being far more prominent than you have suggested. It was accepted in 7-Elevens and Lawsons and various vendors around (but not large department stores for example). Was very convenient when added to iPhone (mobile pay wasn't as common back then) and was able to top it up on iPhone directly no problem with saved debit card.

    Payment surcharge seems to be a very Australian thing unfortunately. Not permitted in the UK or EU, don't think I remember it in USA(?), not in Asia or Middle East or anywhere else really…

    • Honestly, I didn't pay much attention to Suica as we had to recharge it with cash. From what I gather from reddit threads the issues we had charging with Apple Pay might be recent. The 20,000 yen limit also means having to recharge potentially quite a lot.

  • +3

    my face when I realise it's been five years since I last visited Japan :(

    • 28/05/19 for me, I want to go back soon :)

  • My wifi and got Back last month yes a lot has changed payment wise
    We didnt take physical cards both had data.
    He had $1000 Cash & Suica as backups

    Suncorp Visa via google pay.
    worked: Hotel, Supermarket, Lawsons.
    Didnt work. Noodle restaurants, Taxi, Snack vending @ Tokyo station

    Suncorp Visa Via apple Pay:
    Worked: Bicamera, Taxi, Japan Rail, Disneyland, Daiso, Familymart
    Didnt work: Owl Cafe, Random Clothes Store in Harajuku

    yes the fees were brutal

    • Interesting you were able to get by with mobile payments. My wife started using our cards via Apple Pay, but ended up switching to the physical cards I think after encountering issues too often.

      • Yes it's not a solid strategy hit rate was less than 50%, we didnt even think contactless was an option. our main strategy as per precovid was cash is king and we forgot to pack our physical cards and with only $1000 cash and a $50 Suica card & no way to withdraw more cash I thought we were screwed. I also tried my zip virtual visa without luck. We were down to our last 1000 yen note on the last day.

  • +1

    I find the best combo lately has been:
    - ING for cash withdrawals at 7/11
    - Wise for tapping and inserts

    It's a bit easier than it was, a lot of businesses now take card but some are still cash only.

    It's pretty easy to get setup within a day to travel if you already have a Wise card and load up an eSim on the way in.

  • Suica on apple pay now. Works almost everywhere.

    • What card do you use to charge the Suica? We weren't able to get any of our cards to work.

      • I used my ANZ travel rewards card to top up suica via Apple Pay. Usually just 1000-5000 yen at a time. I could have used any card to top it up though, but this one had no conversion fees.

        • Wish we had used that hack.

      • Use a mastercard (up bank), visa doesn’t work

  • +1

    One thing I found which was good, was the acceptance of my Citi Dinners club card due to a tie up with JCB (Japan Credit Bureau). The good thing about the Citi Dinners is there is no Foreign exchange fee and good points.

    In regards to acceptance (Was in Japan in December) , found most major businesses, konbini, supermarkets, chains did accept card with no surcharge. I tend to find that more small family businesses and sometimes independent franchisees of major chains (ie Daiso), don't tend to be as accepting, but all places that do always will have signs at the cashiers.

  • I used samsung pay in January everywhere (including hokkaido) and it worked via tap and pay everytime. This was using 28 degrees card and a macquarie card.

    • Oh interesting, I didn't try using Samsung Pay (or Google Pay even). I'm wondering if I was asked to insert my card just because I presented a card. I'm sure some of the places I went didn't have the hardware for touch payments though (I'm thinking Kura Sushi in particular).

  • i am deciding if i should get a wise card visa card or a up bank card (powered by wise but uses mastercard) for my travels / I already have a citibank debit mastercard which i can use to withdraw cash but would like to lock some money for my japan travels?

    • Me too which one did you go with?

      • I have not decided 😁

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