Wireless Mesh Suggestions for a FTTP Connection 1000/50

prago on 23/06/2023 - 22:03

Hi OzBargainers

I have been upgraded at home with FTTP and have opted for 1000/50 connection. Which was a pain to go through NBNCo, another story for some other time.

The ISP provided the NetCom NF20 Modem/Router/Mesh which I didn't purchase any NetComm Satellite so using it as only the Router connecting to the NBN Box. I am getting the speed in the range of 600-900 mbps on the NF20.

I have used TP-Link Deco M5 and also tried Deco S7 and both of them after all the settings and configuration are performing pretty poor. Speed on the Deco's drops more than 50% so not very happy.

Looking for a better alternative, either with TP-Link or some other reliable brands, just picking on people experience and their suggestion, my end goal is to get decent speed across the home and not the 30-50%, sometime even more dropout via my current Trials with M5 and S7.

Not sure if I purchase something with Wifi6e or Wifi 6 will solve the problem.

Please help me with options and if you have recently purchased, any deals that may be running. Something in the range of $400-$600 would be ok but happy to hear if some product just outperform and remain good with QoS.

Thanks

Internet Wireless Router

Comments

  • Wiadro on 23/06/2023 - 22:12

    As you have FTTP, and in true ozbargain style get a Telstra gen 3 modem. Between $20-100 on fbmp or ebay.
    Depending on your isp they are just plug and play and also massive community on whirlpool and they can be rooted for more features

    I have used Mine with aussiebb, launtel and superloop

    • prago on 23/06/2023 - 22:14

      Sure so that will be my Router, what about the mesh suggestions for a consistent performance.

      I actually have Telstra Gen 2 Modem as well for Router. If that is any better but still need suggestion on MESH, looking for MAIN Mesh + 2 Satellite atleast.

      • Wiadro on 23/06/2023 - 22:16
        +1

        Gen 3 has wifi 6, depending on how big your house just get gen 3 booster.

        If you root the gen2 you maybe able to use it as an access point as well.

  • kfp187 on 23/06/2023 - 23:12

    Prago. Shoot me a message.
    Telstra modems are the way. They work well. Grab their boosters off marketplace. Happy days

  • Danstar on 23/06/2023 - 23:18
    +1

    I used the telstra gen 2 modem and have Ethernet ports for the rooms which have their own dedicated routers. Tp-link archer ax1500 which gives speeds of 900+ on wires connection and 500-800 on 5g wifi

  • Paccers on 24/06/2023 - 01:40

    Just a quick note to say that with mesh wi-fi, you half your available throughput with each 'hop' taken i.e. for each receiver connecting back to the master access point, you lose half of the available throughput for devices connecting through those receivers. So the comment "Speed on the Deco's drops more than 50%" sounds about accurate to be honest.

    Funnily enough residential mesh wi-fi marketing seems to miss out these details..

    If you really care to be able to get max. available throughput you need individual wi-fi points cabled back to the edge i.e. something like a ubiquiti PoE switch connected to whatever device connects to your ISP, with Ethernet cabling running directly to 1 or more ubiquiti wi-fi access points. Get Wi-Fi 6E certified access points if you want to future proof or you have Wi-Fi 6E capable devices (not many at the moment), they'll still be able to run Wi-Fi 6 networks as well

    • prago on 24/06/2023 - 11:09
      +1

      I agree that all the advertising gimmicks on speed mentioned and what can be achieved by these devices. It should be explained properly but that's not the case.

      The trouble for wiring the house will be significant cost I suppose. I was thinking to do that, may be in a longer run but cost may prohibit so looking to invest less towards an alternate solution. Better wireless mesh and router combination.

      • Danstar on 24/06/2023 - 11:20
        +1

        Compared to the cost of some of these mesh systems it’s not that different. Can get done for another 120 a room give or take

      • Paccers on 24/06/2023 - 12:33
        +1

        Ye understandable I'm in the same boat to be honest I'm not just at that point yet where I need to have the wi-fi coverage everywhere so I'm holding off. In line with Danstar's suggestion you could always get a quote for the cabling then compare that vs. cost of a mesh system (+ router?). Might end up closer than you think?

  • MeesusEff on 25/06/2023 - 04:22

    Imma ask a dumdum question here. We are getting our FTTP upgrade soon, are all fttps able to get that 1000/20 (is that the highest?) speed or is that still depending on the area? Our fttn isn't the best, being able to go past 250 will be a whole new world lol

    • prago on 25/06/2023 - 09:06

      I have 1000/50 which is upto 1000 download and upto 50 upload. The max download achievable on FTTP will be 1000 but the upload could be 20-50 offered normally. it should be able achieve much more than that.

      Check your address on any decent is ISP and they will tell what you can get.

    • Danstar on 25/06/2023 - 10:52
      +1

      Varies.

      I’m lucky I get over 900Mbps on wired connection

      • MeesusEff on 25/06/2023 - 14:57

        I'm just wondering about the potential, but realistically cost to usage wise wouldn't go past 100 haha

        • Twix on 26/06/2023 - 00:35

          $99 a month gets you 1000/50 @ Superloop.

          1000/400 is the fastest available at all FTTP locations and this can be increased in the future.

          FTTP download/upload: 25/10, 50/20, 100/20, 100/40, 250/25, 1000/50, 250/100, 500/200, 1000/400.

          • MeesusEff on 26/06/2023 - 03:59
            +1

            @Twix: OOo ok, that doesn't sound too bad. What do most people here utilise the 1000 speed for as it seems a little overkill for streaming/downloading or gaming

            • Danstar on 26/06/2023 - 07:07

              @MeesusEff: Mainly my kids like it when their games need updating it doesn't take a couple of hours anymore. It takes a few minutes

              • prago on 30/06/2023 - 17:13

                @Danstar: Yep any sort of download is pretty quick.

      • MeesusEff on 05/07/2023 - 16:27

        Just got our fttp box in today, and getting a whopping 25-48mbps now LOL on a 100mbps plan , my old connection was faster. does it take time to warm up or something?

        • Danstar on 05/07/2023 - 17:47

          Doesn't seem right.

          I was getting 968Mbps on my 1000 plan. :D
          /gloat

          Ps. I was getting 90+ on my 100 FTTN connection

          • MeesusEff on 05/07/2023 - 17:51

            @Danstar: It's been a few hours and it's still hovering around the 40's, what a let down lol. Not sure if it's just Tangerine in general as they were pretty bad for us when we were on Fttn. Probably just tell me to factory reset the router again if I call

            Edit : actually, it seems to just be the 2ghz thats slow, the 5ghz is near the advertised speed. but im not sure how to fix it as all my plugs and stuff have to be on the 2ghz ones :(

            • Danstar on 05/07/2023 - 19:22

              @MeesusEff: My speeds were tested on wired connection. I always test wifi on 5ghz as 2.4 is usually much slower

              • MeesusEff on 05/07/2023 - 20:08

                @Danstar: It's odd though, I have the same amount of devices connected before that were on 50, but right after it changed it went to 20-50. I just reconfigured my guest network to take all the smart devices so it's chugging along ok now :) maybe I'll do a trial with Launtel after the promo period to see how high it gets to

  • Everettpsycho on 25/06/2023 - 17:48

    How big is your property and how many nodes do you think you'll need to cover it? Also worth asking if you have any method to have a wire between the nodes as that's hands down the best thing you can do to a mesh network to improve it's performance. It may well be that a set of power line adapters to wire the nodes together would sort out your performance as the wireless backhaul is probably what's killing your performance.

    I licked up a pair of Asus ax1800 routers and use their ai mesh functionality and it's been pretty solid since I installed them. I do have one at each end of the house and a cable for most of my devices including running the secondary router that's acting as a node.

    • prago on 30/06/2023 - 17:13

      Finally did the wiring from NBN box in garage to the modem kept inside the house. Also bought the TP-Link Deco XE75 which is tri band, wireless 6e modem.

      Coverage has improved and speed improved significantly. The modem has the dedicated 6G wireless backhaul.

      So far so good. In future will be looking to wire the house.

      Thanks

      • Twix on 30/06/2023 - 19:43

        Finally did the wiring from NBN box in garage to the modem kept inside the house.

        Did you plug in the NF20 or Deco XE75 to the nbn box?

        By the way the Deco XE75 is a router and not a VDSL2 modem.

        • prago on 30/06/2023 - 19:52

          NBN box to nf20 to xe75

          • Twix on 30/06/2023 - 19:54

            @prago: Any reason why? Do you use a VoIP service?

            You can plug in the Deco XE75 to the nbn box if you don't use VoIP.

            • prago on 30/06/2023 - 20:00
              +1

              @Twix: I do but may be I will drop VoIP as Xe75 would be better than nf20

              • Twix on 30/06/2023 - 20:10

                @prago: If you keep VoIP go into the Deco advanced menu and configure the Deco XE75 as a wireless access point(s) so you don't get double NAT problems.

                Configure the Deco XE75 as a wireless router if you end up plugging in the Deco XE75 to the nbn box.

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