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Baccarat Damashiro Suru 7 Piece Knife Block $150 + Delivery @ Robins Kitchen

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Baccarat Damashiro Suru 7 Piece Knife Block $150 + Delivery @ Robins Kitchen
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Luckypenguin on 30/06/2023 - 15:05 robinskitchen.com.au (526 clicks)
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I know that these are always on sale, but this is a sale on top of the usual sale for what are actually pretty decent knives. I particularly like the look of this set because it is heavy on Santoku knives. Delivery calculates to $9.95 for me in metro Brisbane, while in-store pick up is free.

Features
• Inspired by traditional Japanese craftsman and Samurai sword makers, Baccarat® Damashiro™ knives are crafted from the finest quality Japanese steel
• Premium Japanese leather sharpening process has been conducted to offer an even sharper cutting blade!
• The premium quality Japanese steel blade has been tapered to allow for a thinner and more precise cutting edge
• Ice hardened for exceptional blade strength and durability and capable of being honed to a sharp resilient edge
• Engineered and tested to meet Rockwell 53 specification guaranteeing optimum performance
• Comprehensive set features 20cm Chefs Knife, 20cm Bread Knife, 17cm Santoku Knife, 14cm Santoku Knife, 12cm Utility Knife and 9cm Paring Knife. Housed in an attractive magnetic, acacia wood knife block
• Baccarat® LIFETIME GUARANTEE

Dimensions
Paring: 9cm, Utility: 12cm, Santoku: 14cm, Santoku: 17cm, Chefs: 20cm, Bread: 20cm

Material
Japanese Steel

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  • mickeyjuiceman on 30/06/2023 - 15:13
    +8

    LOL - "Baccarat != "actually pretty decent knives"

    • RichardL on 30/06/2023 - 15:18
      +2

      But RRP is $1199 - expensive must mean good quality

      /s

      • mickeyjuiceman on 30/06/2023 - 15:19
        -1

        By the end of the year these will be over $2K, I reckon, given how well that does actually work around here

      • gamemaster on 30/06/2023 - 15:21
        +3

        Inspired by traditional Japanese craftsman and Samurai sword makers

        If a Japanese craftsman or sword marker made these knives they would commit seppuku in shame. Unfortunately these knives wouldn’t be sharp enough to complete the task.

        • RichardL on 30/06/2023 - 15:23
          +3

          Keyword 'Inspired'.

    • incipient on 30/06/2023 - 15:19
      +4

      They're definitely very adequate. Personally there is absolutely no way I'd buy these however.

      I'd look for the global 3 piece set on sale. Less is more - workhorse chefs knife. A smaller santoku for a few more delicate things, and a pairing for the little bits and bobs.

      • wildthing1 on 02/07/2023 - 15:17

        Global knives are over-rated unless you go for SG2 or VG10 ones. VG10 with 3 layers or 63 layers (Damascus) are quite impressive :)

    • Luckypenguin on 30/06/2023 - 15:20
      -3

      They're thin bladed and don't need sharpening often. Sorry if that is a problem.

      • mickeyjuiceman on 30/06/2023 - 15:29
        +2

        LOL, @ 53 Rockwell they're about as hard as cheese, so they're going to need constant sharpening

        • Luckypenguin on 30/06/2023 - 15:34
          -6

          Well the couple of knives that I have of this type don't, so you're not adding any value here, I'm afraid.

          • incipient on 30/06/2023 - 15:38
            +5

            @Luckypenguin: A Rockwell hardness of 53 is objectively quite soft. They're easy to sharpen, but will blunt quickly.

            The "very sharp edge" (to cut a tomato without holding it) will fade very quickly.

            A "passably sharp edge" (where you can cut a tomato without crushing it) will definitely last a bit longer.

            Mickey is absolutely correct that these are soft and require sharpening significantly more often than something up around hrc60.

            • Luckypenguin on 30/06/2023 - 18:38

              @incipient: And? For a few years I have had in this same model a $25 mini cleaver, and a $20 5" santoku knife that I used for way too many things before I got a cheapo 7" santoku in another brand to use for the occasions when I need more weight and leverage. The Baccarat knives both came sharp enough to be dangerous out of the box and have required minimal maintenance to stay sharp. Making comparisons by quoting numbers on a box only allows someone to be technically correct, which is the worst way to be correct.

              I have no desire to cook any more than I currently do so it is not a value proposition to suggest more expensive knives because they would fail on value-for-money basis despite being better suited for more intensive use.

              • OzBragain on 01/07/2023 - 05:39
                +1

                @Luckypenguin: If you're happy with these knives that's good for you, keep using them. Doesn't make them decent knives.

                • Luckypenguin on 01/07/2023 - 10:59
                  +1

                  @OzBragain: You wouldn't be the first person to misunderstand or misrrpresent the meaning of a word in this thread.

                  • Igaf on 01/07/2023 - 13:22
                    -1

                    @Luckypenguin: Highly likely to be decent enough for a good proportion of users. There's a huge difference between knife advice and knife snobbery, both of which are plentiful on Ozbargain.

                    Keep posting deals. One of your neggers has still to post a deal 4 years after joining, another has 3 deals in 14 years.

                  • OzBragain on 01/07/2023 - 13:27

                    @Luckypenguin:

                    You wouldn't be the first person to misunderstand

                    No I wouldn't, OP has misunderstood much of the advice presented here

          • marcaum123 on 30/06/2023 - 16:10

            @Luckypenguin: Baccarat knives are not better (arguably worse) than Coles knives.

            A Rockwell of 53 is not a lot better than a Kiwi knife (HRC 50 ish) that cost 5 bucks at a local Asian Grocery

      • Jasonio on 30/06/2023 - 22:41

        Thin means cant hold an edge stop lying.

        • mickeyjuiceman on 01/07/2023 - 05:55

          No it doesn't. Thin can hold a GREAT edge, but not when it's junk like this.

        • Luckypenguin on 01/07/2023 - 10:52

          This comment is a microcosm of the expert advice found in this entire thread.

          • Jasonio on 01/07/2023 - 10:54
            +2

            @Luckypenguin: Ironic since you're one of the main offenders.

            • Luckypenguin on 01/07/2023 - 11:27
              +1

              @Jasonio: Yes, buy the products you need near the top of their price-to-performance curve to avoid unecessary expenditure. Beyond a certain point, additional cost brings diminishing returns. Paying more for features that provide no practical benefit to a particular user is not a deal.

              So controversial given the theoretical purpose of this website.

          • mickeyjuiceman on 01/07/2023 - 11:12

            @Luckypenguin: LOL, got a mirror?

  • Mentem on 30/06/2023 - 15:27
    +3

    I'd say $150 is what full price should be. I won't neg, because I haven't seen cheaper, I've tried one of these knives it's ok (Chinese made and not hard enough to hold an edge) I'd suggest buying 2/3 proper Japanese knives and you would be much better off

  • Fergy1987 on 30/06/2023 - 15:29
    +3

    Id even buy a set of Xinzuo off aliexpress before this

  • Benno123 on 30/06/2023 - 15:31
    +1

    Any knives that are actually crafted from "the finest quality Japanese steel" would actually talk about the steel used. Friends don't let friends by Baccarat

  • DJR9000 on 30/06/2023 - 15:32
    +1

    yuck.

    at that price you can get an alright Scanpan block set or spend a bit more for a global or mundial set.

    My mundial set i bought in 2003 is still going strong, just needs a sharpen now and then.

    Will these knives be around in 20 years? Probably in landfill by then.

    • Fergy1987 on 30/06/2023 - 15:33
      +4

      For this price id get a Tojiro gyuto and petty and call it a day

      • DJR9000 on 30/06/2023 - 15:36
        +1

        yup. a chef or santoku knife, paring knife and a bread knife is pretty much covering most needs in a kitchen

    • Luckypenguin on 30/06/2023 - 16:54
      +1

      The Scanpan knives that I've had were softer than these, but they were cheaper than this and could be made sharp enough so I won't complain about their relative value.

  • Lomax on 30/06/2023 - 15:38

    Bought Baccarat Damashiro 3 Piece Santoku Knife - those kinves are bit too light, and the smooth handle is not giving a good grip at least for me. Went blunt after about six month of daily use. Agree with @incipient , I would prefer Global over this brand.

  • randomusername2017 on 30/06/2023 - 15:43

    actually pretty decent knives

    What exactly are you comparing them to?

    I'd go something like this and just mount them as a display piece.

    • Luckypenguin on 30/06/2023 - 15:51
      +1

      Knife sets at this price or lower that require more frequent sharpening to maintain and edge, and are thicker blade and can't be sharpened to a finer angle.

      I am very familiar with the Ozbargain tradition of someone for example recommending RM Williams boots in a thread about a $30 shoe deal, thanks.

      • randomusername2017 on 30/06/2023 - 16:09
        +2

        and are thicker blade and can't be sharpened to a finer angle.

        Any knife can be sharpened to any angle, depends on how much work you want to put in… you'll find these don't hold the edge well due softer steel used. The better knives will come out of the factory with decent bevelled edges. Rockwell hardness is really a balancing act between functionality and durability.

        Not knocking the deal.. although baccarat RRP doesn't do you any favours.

        Don't think the negs on your comments are deserved though..

        • Luckypenguin on 30/06/2023 - 16:24

          That is technically true, however a thicker blade with a wide factory angle requires much more material to removed to achieve a fine angle in the first place and each subsequent time that it is sharpened.

          I understand your comment about Baccarat RRP, which is why I addressed it in the first sentence.

      • Adz81 on 30/06/2023 - 16:30
        +1

        You literally said in an above comment that they do not need frequent sharpening…

        • Luckypenguin on 30/06/2023 - 16:41

          I also literally didn't say the they will never require sharpening. I also was discussing above the problems associated with sharpening other types of knives that have thicker blades than these.

  • EBC on 30/06/2023 - 16:02
    +5

    At this price point you would be better off with this:

    https://www.amazon.com.au/Tojiro-Cobalt-Interrupted-Stainles…

    Stainless clad VG10 steel (60-61 Rockwell) will be way better than whatever steel the Baccarat knives are made of. And actually this would probably be another Amazon Japan deal worth posting if there were more than 5 in stock.

    And if you don't care about the gift box, cheaper to buy separately:

    https://www.amazon.com.au/TOJIRO-Torisaku-Stainless-Kitchen-…

    https://www.amazon.com.au/TOJIRO-Fujita-Toraku-Stainless-FU-…

    Then if you can stretch your budget a touch, throw in this chefs knife and you have a set that will last a lifetime with proper care for $184.53 total:

    https://www.amazon.com.au/TOJIRO-Ltd-Fujita-Takako-FU-807/dp…

    Or this if you really want a matching set and are slightly stretchier for $219.95 total:

    https://www.amazon.com.au/Tojiro-PRO-Cobalt-Alloy-Gyutou-F-8…

    • ryang on 30/06/2023 - 17:22

      Anyone had issues importing knives before? Just wondering if customs are going to step in …

      • mickeyjuiceman on 30/06/2023 - 18:12
        +1

        I've bought several from knifemakers OS and never had any issues (last one was last year)

    • cryptonoob on 02/07/2023 - 18:38

      Are these knifes good? Compared to Global or Furi

      • EBC on 02/07/2023 - 19:01
        +1

        Tojiro makes great entry level Japanese knives. They use good steel that takes an edge well and holds it decently. And pretty low maintenance being stainless clad.

        • cryptonoob on 02/07/2023 - 19:42

          Cheers, picked up the one that looks like a santoku, will see how it goes!

  • marcaum123 on 30/06/2023 - 16:03
    +2

    Honestly with 150 bucks you can buy a very decent ok quality Japanese knife that will last you for life.

    And if you don't know why you should buy only 1 knife instead of 5, then you definitely don't need 5.

    • Igaf on 01/07/2023 - 13:24
      -1

      And if you don't know why you should buy only 1 knife instead of 5, then you definitely don't need 5.

      The logic is impeccable. Not.

  • cheach on 30/06/2023 - 16:37
    +1

    You people must stop rubbing salt in the wound 😭

    I have the Baccarat ID set. Bought it before the discovery of OzB. I have to agreed, I am forever sharpening the bloody thing.

    • randomusername2017 on 30/06/2023 - 16:59

      Bought it before

      So…. @RRP?

      • cheach on 01/07/2023 - 00:15

        It’s one of their closing down sales that occurs so frequently that they don’t bother relocating the store.

        • randomusername2017 on 02/07/2023 - 21:58

          Technically they do close down every afternoon and reopen the next morning.. would imagine 24hr trading @ 91% off would be unprofitable.

    • Luckypenguin on 30/06/2023 - 17:59

      Thank you providing evidential experience of the brand, even if the product is not the same.

  • JF on 30/06/2023 - 17:05
    +1

    Buy the knives you need individually, sets typically throw in a bunch of junk you'll never need/use to give the illusion of value.
    Plenty of good suggestions above! Reviews are your friend, Shun/Ran, Kasumi, Tojiro & Miyabi are all brands I've used and can recommend.
    Don't look past Victorinox and some other cheaper options if all you need is a utility knife.
    With good knife care the edge on these will last a very long time!

    • Fergy1987 on 30/06/2023 - 17:12
      +2

      Wait so you're telling me I dont need the whole Global set with the tiny useless 8cm pairing knife that is only used to cut open the packet of mince from the supermarket.

      • garage sale on 30/06/2023 - 21:55

        this baccarat set is 5 knives …..includes bread knife and a knife holder ……not sure why people suggest you can make do with just one knife ,can’t use chef knife to peel things, can’t use utility knife to cut a roast …… if you eat artisan bread or cut bagels or bread rolls you need a bread knife due to serrated edge ….. for $150 it’s a good set …… hardness, might need to sharpen more often but trident and german knives are only rockwell 55, and global aren’t as hard as vg10 knives …..

        • Fergy1987 on 01/07/2023 - 05:37
          +1

          Buy a peeler. One decent chef/santoku knife, a 9 dollar victorinox serated knife. Covers everything you said. Can definitely slice a roast with a chef knife.

          • Igaf on 01/07/2023 - 14:24

            @Fergy1987: Or, buy what YOU want and what you think is 'decent' enough for your purposes.

  • HunterBargainHunter on 30/06/2023 - 17:12

    I bought this one ages ago
    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/658298
    Still NiB
    And now seems even that one wasn’t up to scratch

    • Fergy1987 on 30/06/2023 - 17:17

      Why not - Furi knives will do you fine. Crack those bad boys open and use them. I've got the East/West knife in that box and it sharpens up nicely.

    • mickeyjuiceman on 30/06/2023 - 18:11

      Yeah, I had some Furis - another in the very soft/not all that good brigade. I was conned by how good their pans are (if also well over-priced at RRP)

  • zombie hunter on 30/06/2023 - 17:24
    +1

    thks need a set after left the last set at work….

  • Yub on 30/06/2023 - 22:34

    As a higher quality alternative, cangshan are still on sale. https://cangshancutlery.com.au/collections/knife-block-sets

  • Jasonio on 30/06/2023 - 22:39

    Baccart is a scam they material used is not quality.

  • Fullhalter on 01/07/2023 - 14:03
    +1

    I won't neg although I'm a kitchen knife snob. I personally wouldn't touch a baccarat set with a barge pole, but different people different situations. I had never been so sure with the always regurgitated "just one knife" advice.

    E.g. I'd rather use a crap bread knife on hard crusts. Even the best japanese knife would just glass or chip if you force it on a lot of stuff. Repair is a major pain and wallet, trust me. A baccarat user would neither know nor care such things. Not everyone got the time or the inclination…

    PS. I'm not exactly a knife-set guy, quite the opposite. Just bought my third nakiri for ~$300 I reckon it's a bargain. I very rarely use my uber gyutos, opting for sujis more and more. For bread I use a fibrox pastry every two days.

  • wildthing1 on 02/07/2023 - 15:11

    I would buy these Baccarats as "gifts" to give away. Personally, I would buy VG10 grade steel knives even made in China. They made some decent VG10 63-layered Damascus knives using Japanese VG10 steel. I've got a few Chinese VG10 knives and they should last a life-time but sharpening them can be a pain as they are so hard :)

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