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  • TooSerious2 on 15/07/2023 - 15:21
    +3

    I have these, for about $100 from memory. They look like Docs and feel like Docs on your feet. But they feel a bit cheap and shiitty when you put them on. I'm OK with that now but it was off-putting.

    • G-rig on 15/07/2023 - 16:38
      -1

      Yeah got the shoe version for $100. No need to really break them in like the hard leather ones.
      Don't really wear them though, kind of too narrow.

  • DecoAus on 15/07/2023 - 15:23
    +11

    Good price but as someone who recently bought their first set of docs I would only ever recommend the Nappa leather variant. The upper quality of both the smooth and the vegan options were garbage.

    • OzzyBrak on 15/07/2023 - 20:07
      +1

      I agree. For anyone not vegan, goodyear welt leather boots will last longer and end up being better for the environment. For those that do not like any animal products, you always have plastic (sold as vegan).

  • chiesel21 on 15/07/2023 - 15:24

    $149 @amazon can't share the link but is google-able

  • dogsryummy on 15/07/2023 - 15:36
    +23

    So…plastic?

    • cerealJay on 15/07/2023 - 15:56
      +7

      Yes, plastic.

      Vegans are often environmentally conscious, an interesting poll would be how many vegans opt for plastic over leather boots. Dr Martens apparently claims (I didn't double check) their leather is sourced via by-products of meat industry, but don't expect much transparency from these big brands. They're even ignoring the word "plastic", retreating to the more palatable "synthetic".

      • amberstyre on 15/07/2023 - 20:15

        I would expect that nearly all leather is a by-product of the meat industry - the amount of animals farmed and consumed in the world makes it plausible.

        I don't see how plastic leather are any better than using natural leather.. in fact they may be worse since they won't biodegrade overtime and are made using fossil fuels. Especially if the leather would be produced anyway from meat processing. It'd be interesting to get a vegan's point of view on this.

        • afoveht on 15/07/2023 - 20:36
          +10

          Veganism is a political stance against animal exploitation, not a form of environmentalism. "Vegan environmentalism" or "vegan diets" are things nonvegans can partake in because they may appreciate their particular values, but these are not veganism per se. Nonetheless most vegans I know do also have concern for environmental issues - generally moreso than the average nonvegan - and as it stands a vegan lifestyle is, conveniently, generally much lighter on the natural environment (and sociopolitical stratification) than a nonvegan lifestyle.

          Are there circumstances where vegan choices are worse for the environment than nonvegan choices? Sure. If this true for Docs? I'm not so sure. Does a pair of shoes cause environmental damage in a similar order to our repetitive everyday choices such as food? Absolutely not. Not necessarily you here but looking for needles in haystacks or "vegan gotchas" are mostly desperate attempts at shaming something overwhelmingly sensible and decent.

          • [Deactivated] on 16/07/2023 - 00:59
            -1

            @afoveht:

            as it stands a vegan lifestyle is, conveniently, generally much lighter on the natural environment (and sociopolitical stratification) than a nonvegan lifestyle.

            Are there circumstances where vegan choices are worse for the environment than nonvegan choices? Sure

            And this proves their stands are nonsense. Why? Because many of them DO claim it's "better for the environment" but when shown their cult programming is nonsense with genuine FACTS like it's really NOT good for the environment, see over here… they backpedal, shrug, change the subject, and if held on point, finally admit there is no real reason, it's "just because I want to."

            • TrulyUnicorn on 16/07/2023 - 05:50
              +6

              @[Deactivated]: A vegan can rightfully argue that the plastic contained in a boot that will last years will cause minimal harm compared to using an animal product that requires raising/killing an intelligent creature with an unknown quality of life.

              Meat required ludicrous amounts of land, water, energy and food to produce compared to vegan food.

              • A M on 16/07/2023 - 14:07
                -1

                @TrulyUnicorn: Regarding the last sentence, the reality is perfectly inverted.

                Compare oat milk or almond milk to real milk. For example.

                Monocropping is ruinous. Of inputs, and to animals.

                Livestock raised on natural grasslands can coexist with many other animals, and they offer a range of high value nutrient dense or durable products for humans and they help improve the soil. Again, the opposite effect. Repeated monocropping turns the soil into dirt.

                Peace.

                • G-rig on 16/07/2023 - 14:15
                  +1

                  @A M: Lol, just say you like the taste of meat instead of trying to justify all this again.

                  If you actually looked up a few graphs and statistics you'd find out that most crops grown go to feeding cattle anyway, much more % than what humans consume.

                  Can't convince some people either way.

      • [Deactivated] on 16/07/2023 - 00:49
        -5

        Vegans are often… (or perhaps it's always), illogical. 1. They don't have to eat their shoes. It may be a surprise to the, but most people just wear them. 2. They're not "saving" a single animal because obviously shoe makers don't kill a cow for just its hide. So it's neither reducing, nor creating a market for, therefore not increasing or decreasing the numbers of animals killed. Manufacturers simply use the skins of animals already killed for their meat which the vegan had no control over no matter how intensively they deceive themselves otherwise. The skin either gets turned into shoes, belts, hats, saddles, or whatever that can last 10, 20, 30 years or more (such as the case of a leather belt I own, a quality saddle, etc), or, they prove to everyone else how hypocritical they are by instead wearing dozens of pairs of shoes made of faux crap that harms the environment to create many times over compared to long-lasting natural leather. The leather vegans would waste, choose to leave to rot, while they harm the environment many times over… is merely used to make another of an endless list of products. Otherwise the hides would go to garbage dumps to rot in the sun covered in flies. Which leads to… 3. Why on earth would anyone accept an (often much) inferior quality product with such a set of invariable truths laid out before them. (For that answer see point 1.)

        • afoveht on 16/07/2023 - 01:15
          +7

          Apart from your other omissions of understanding and outright absurdities -

          The leather vegans would waste

          Vegans don't waste leather because we don't (want to) consume anything that has leather as any part of the process. You are basically saying you want us to buy your 'waste'. What next? Tell people who don't want wars that they're wasting expired ammo the army has bought?

          • [Deactivated] on 16/07/2023 - 02:38
            -6

            @afoveht:

            we don't (want to) consume anything that has leather as any part of the process

            Thus wasting the quality leather, using fake stuff instead, which more quickly degrades, winds up in landfill sooner AND releases who knows how much toxins to make in the first place. Thus vegans are among the biggest environment abusers in their consumer habits.

            You are basically saying you want us to buy your 'waste'.

            a) it's not mine, and it's not waste. It becomes waste when they don't use it. By getting an inferior product and by needing more of them compared to real quality leather.

            b) The leather already exists as a byproduct whether vegans use it or not, whether they fool themselves they're "preventing animal suffering" or not. Using it doesn't create more demand. What doesn't already exist and what DOES create demand, is the fake junk "leather" they create demand for due to their cult programming, by which they fool themselves synthetic is "better" when it creates who knows how much "bad stuff". Thus once again, vegans are among the biggest abusers of the environment due to their lala-land consumer habits.

            • CptnObvious on 16/07/2023 - 09:56
              +2

              @[Deactivated]: lol, now you are just having a rant instead of putting up a logical argument.

              • [Deactivated] on 17/07/2023 - 20:21
                -2

                @CptnObvious: Yes logical facts invariably become "rant" to the cult members.

            • PukeyLuke on 16/07/2023 - 11:05
              +2

              @[Deactivated]:

              Using it doesn't create more demand.

              Of course it creates demand, to use the leather means you paid for it, increasing the profits for the farmer/slaughterhouse/manufacturer etc.
              This in turn makes the meat and leather cheaper, therefore the consumer will buy more, it's simple economics.

              • afoveht on 16/07/2023 - 13:24

                @PukeyLuke: A cow's skin fetches about 10% of her carcass' market value. This is baked into the instrumental value of the animal - without it meat would cost more and/or farmers would be paid less and/or less cows would be bred into existence. A few pairs of shoes ain't gonna change much, just as 2% of the population being vegan also won't - these are currently mostly ethical assertions and political statements. But they are important. When vegan shoes comprise 20% of the market then they will be taken much more seriously by all shoe manufacturers and real effects will be felt by animal ag. Vegan leathers will become better then traditional leather because market or other social forces will drive innovation. Ultimately leather will end up becoming some niche product for special purposes where it is extremely difficult to replace or for rich douchbags who can't bring themselves around to not killing someone for their shoes - a bit like fur now.

              • [Deactivated] on 17/07/2023 - 20:23

                @PukeyLuke: HORSESHIT. I know boot makers, belt makers, people who make all sorts of leather goods for stalls, etc - who have closed down because of LACK OF DEMAND for their goods. For every one that closes that's REDUCED DEMAND and so MORE LEATHER going to waste.

        • Thaal Sinestro on 16/07/2023 - 06:48
          +1

          What I hate is leather that is coated with polyurethane (most belts are like this). The polyurethane starts peeling off very quickly and you have to discard the belt for aesthetic reasons, even though the leather base is 100% intact. So wasteful.

          • [Deactivated] on 17/07/2023 - 20:33

            @Thaal Sinestro: Aren't they awful!? I got caught years ago like that… In about 10 days it had started cracking/peeling. Now when they say "genuine leather" I dig my thumbnail in hard and drag it, if it scratches I don't buy, and yes I put it back on the shelf. They deserve it for aiding the deception. They even paint belts on the side to hide the veneer layer to deceive us. Same with furniture now too. They call it "real leather" lying about the word "real." i.e. "Real Leather" must be a copyrighted name that designates a product now. Like saying: "metal car" then finding out later it's made of sheets of pasta. I'm sitting on a "real leather" lounge right now that has REAL leather where you sit on, but the rest of it is some crap they've dyed the same colour. The sides of the cushions, the back of the lounge, the sides… there's all these scratches and crap peeling off everywhere but the seats are like new.

        • G-rig on 16/07/2023 - 07:24
          +4

          That may be your opinion. Vegans are more willing to make changes based on empathy and compassion, which most people would just dismiss. There are no shortage of documentaries and youtube channels that most people would just 'dismiss' and avoid what the consequences of their choices mean.

          I woulnd't call it illgical when someone is happy to learn more about these industries and the health and evironmental benefits of consuming less animal products. There are a heap of scientific studies with ranomised double blind trials showing the results pointing out the beneifts, health wise. Again, most people won't take the time nor consideration to even think about it let alone make any changes.

          I bet old mate has never even been into a doc martens store to compare, and wouldn't surpirse me if they owned a pair at all, just another troll adding nothing to the bargain experience. The difference in the shoes is very minimal and there is no reason not to consider the vegan version (plus they are $75 cheaper).

          The same people (as pointed out below) happily buy kilos of other plastic junk on these deals, and get one free fries maccas delievered by doordash as a special trip becasue it's free - the maccas fries are vegan btw, so I guess you won't be eating those.

          Leather is actually a coproduct (not a “byproduct,” as is so often claimed) of the unsustainable meat industry. Most
          leather comes from cows raised in the agriculture industry, where their flesh is turned into “beef” and their breastmilk is made into cheese, yogurt, and ice cream.

          https://www.peta.org/features/the-cruel-connection-between-b….

      • Jaydon2507 on 16/07/2023 - 07:46
        +3

        Just to jump into this debate as a vegetarian who does wear leather shoes.

        Both sides have their fair points.

        Leather shoes are often much longer lasting. I do have a thrifted pair of RM Williams yearling boots that were manufactured in 2006 and they look as good as new after being resoled and polished as good quality leather shoes can be. I also have new shoes from Trimly that I hope to wear for a long time.

        However, in most cases of leather shoes, as the other commenter Thaal Sinestro mentioned, most cheap leathers are coated in polyuerethane. This does impact the longevity of leather goods. We live in a disposable consumerist world and the majority of leather shoes like sneakers, disposable dress shoes probably have a similar lifespan to a plastic shoe. Furthermore saying leather is a by product is true to an extent but purchasing leather does contribute to agriculture and makes the current scale of agriculture feasible. If the leather trade was replaced totally, I'm sure the costs of meat would rise and thus consumption would decrease probably leading to less agricultural environmental damage.

        Synthetic leather (plastic) does however cause more CO2 emissions than a leather alternative, contributes to the fossil fuel industry and leads to non-biodegradable waste. It's also a sign the manufacturer decided to cut costs and produce a less durable product.

        If you think you'll have something for ages, you can amortise the emissions, ethics and whatever you're concerned with. Not going to lie, ozbargain does contribute to my own consumerism.

        TLDR I personally choose leather but it's a decision for everyone to make and just like we don't criticise other people's religion, we shouldn't criticise their personal choices. We should trust the reasonable and moral tendencies of each other and that we do try make better choices for the world we live in.

        • afoveht on 16/07/2023 - 13:33
          +1

          we shouldn't criticise their personal choices.

          It's not a personal choice if it affects someone else. You are forgetting the cow you're killing for her milk and skin.

  • Travelbug on 15/07/2023 - 15:42
    +10

    I can't believe it is not meat.

  • xoom on 15/07/2023 - 15:43
    -2

    Can i wear this while protesting at a steak house?

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y5S3CzbCEMQ

    • Travelbug on 15/07/2023 - 15:47
      +4

      Yes you can if your protesting about bigger serves for everyone.

  • beach bum on 15/07/2023 - 15:46
    +1

    Yea , but do they taste as good as regular shoes ?

    • xoom on 15/07/2023 - 16:07
      +1

      Just pour some sauce on it.

      • beach bum on 15/07/2023 - 16:30

        What do you recommend,
        barbecue?
        And white whine or …

  • lachlantula on 15/07/2023 - 16:14
    +7

    their vegan 'leather' is horrific quality. save up and buy some solovairs if you don't mind real leather. if you insist on fake leather ive heard mixed things about virons boots, and they're on special at ssense at the moment for under <$200 in limited sizes.

    • besttraveltech on 16/07/2023 - 10:49

      Their vegan leather on the Jadon and Chelsea boots are great. They cheaped out on the 1460's so that they have a "budget model".

      If you head into a platypus, pick up the Jadon and 1460 vegan docs, and you'll immediately tell the difference. Jadon's are 3 x as thick.

      Vegan Blundstones are also amazing quality.

  • biggweilo on 15/07/2023 - 16:15
    +1

    Despite their name, these boots are particularly effective at squashing cockroaches.

    • timhn on 15/07/2023 - 16:24

      So no good for wearing?

    • brotherfranciz on 15/07/2023 - 16:34

      Didn't know cockroaches had 8 eyes.

  • swalloweda on 15/07/2023 - 16:17
    +18

    Funny how vegan goods always attract more comments from non-vegans…
    Must be all those hormones in their meat.

    • Ninternet on 15/07/2023 - 16:25
      +2

      Fanning the flames are always a good way to put them out 👍

    • biggweilo on 15/07/2023 - 16:29

      I agree - very funny. adding the word "vegan" to anything is akin to painting a nice juicy bullseye of comedy gold.
      Anyway, time to consume more meat hormones :D

      • belongsinforums on 15/07/2023 - 16:47

        I think people just get annoyed with the marketing of vegan x. Nobody complains about felafels

        • lachlantula on 15/07/2023 - 16:48
          +1

          to be fair, falafels are very good.

      • G-rig on 15/07/2023 - 16:54
        +2

        People just get triggered easily.
        No one gets upset if you say vegetarian.

        • furiousgeorge on 15/07/2023 - 19:36
          -3

          Vegos aren’t smug , self righteous blowhards. 🤣

  • bettina44 on 15/07/2023 - 17:12
    +1

    as a vegetarian I want them but I'm kind of put off by the fact there is no warranty dammit!

    • G-rig on 15/07/2023 - 17:29

      Pretty sure they would last ages. Just looked it up they don't offer warranty on any of their shoes but the iconic has 30d return. How long do you need, is it even a thing with shoes by nature?

      • XVX on 15/07/2023 - 17:52
        +1

        I have had a pair of these for about 6 years now and they are still going strong. Seems like a pretty safe buy from my experience.

        • G-rig on 15/07/2023 - 20:06
          +1

          Yes they are fine, most people commenting haven't even seen nor had a pair, just ignorant selfish attitudes as usual.

      • bettina44 on 17/07/2023 - 14:28

        Yep it's a thing for shoes, they used to offer a lifetime warranty on select shoes. I prefer not to deal with the drama if they break after a year.

        • G-rig on 17/07/2023 - 14:46

          That was only some of their made in England ones yeah? Think they stopped doing that years and years ago? Nice idea but those ones cost way more anyway.

    • afoveht on 15/07/2023 - 20:57
      +1

      Why? Dairy and leather are kindred industries,. You are literally supplying the inputs for leather.

      • bettina44 on 17/07/2023 - 14:30

        I'm well aware of the dairy industry's cruelty and have been transitioning as such.

  • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 15/07/2023 - 17:32
    +2

    So, will the shoes constantly be reminding me they're vegan?

  • unifex on 15/07/2023 - 17:40
    +2

    so vegan as in plastic crap.

    • G-rig on 15/07/2023 - 17:45
      +3

      Product made using non-animal alternatives or methods that are associated with good animal welfare.

      They are fine and good quality. Most Nikes are vegan too. Synthetic materials are more sustainable and ethical, funny how it blows people's minds.

      • ssfps on 15/07/2023 - 18:07
        +4

        Synthetic materials are more sustainable

        This is your brain on veganism.
        Animals literally grow and die and turn back into the food for their food. Plastic OTOH is mostly made from crude oil.
        The only non-sustainable part of leather would be synthetic treatments done to extend its life or change its appearance.

        • G-rig on 15/07/2023 - 18:34
          +3

          Predictable.. ok Ethical is more appropriate, but consider the land clearing and water required for animal agriculture. Narrow minded people always bring up the same arguments and just don't want to change or consider more compassionate options.

          Most leather car seats haven't even been leather for 20y.

          So you would pay $225 for the leather ones, or just trolling and no interest in any?

          • OzzyBrak on 15/07/2023 - 20:15

            @G-rig: Leather is a byproduct of meat production. I don't think the same arguments can be made again using leather as eating meat.

            For example if demand for meat were to reduce (it won't with the wealth increases in Asia) we wouldn't need to keep clearing land to raise animals for profit. Due to the commercial meat industry we have plenty of leather available, it is longer lasting, more durable and better for the environment. Picking plastic is an illogical choice.

            • G-rig on 16/07/2023 - 04:06
              +4

              @OzzyBrak: Same old fallacies. It's more accurately a coproduct not byproduct.

              https://bitesizevegan.org/is-leather-a-byproduct-of-the-meat….

              Some people don't realise that even the diary industry is the meat industry.

              • OzzyBrak on 16/07/2023 - 13:29
                +1

                @G-rig: smugly linking bitesizevegan to make vegan points, what a laugh.

                I can't find anything more recent than this, let me know if you can. https://www.beefcentral.com/trade/hides-market-spirals-to-un…

                tl;dr is that when demand for leather falls, they start sending the hides to landfill. They don't stop slaughtering cattle until demand for meat falls. We are better off utilising this coproduct/byproduct as it is a better product, better for humans and better for the environment.

                As for dairy cattle, calling the dairy cross calves the meat industry is a bit rich, dairy cross beef isn't a premium product and hits the value section of the market in most cases. I do agree it should be more widely known that cows don't just produce milk, they are attempting to feed their young and we abuse that process and take their young away to keep milk in supermarkets.

                • G-rig on 16/07/2023 - 14:19
                  -1

                  @OzzyBrak: Was the first link that showed up and that response is predictable. There are plenty of similar sites that say the same thing but was going to waste my time on it. Of course vegan sites will cover that topic, some people will just argue either way.

                  Demand will drop off and continue to in the future, and farmer's will have to come up with a more noble product to farm or be out of a job.

                  https://www.google.com/search?q=is+leather+a+byproduct+of+me…

                  • OzzyBrak on 16/07/2023 - 18:05
                    +1

                    @G-rig: It's only demand for hides as people wrongly think they are making a better choice, so some hide is just being dumped into landfill. Global meat demand driven out of the massive third world middle class is going gangbusters.

                    Growth in global consumption of meat proteins over the next decade is projected to increase by 14% by
                    2030 compared to the base period average of 2018-2020, driven largely by income and population growth.
                    Protein availability from beef, pork, poultry, and sheep meat is projected to grow 5.9%, 13.1%, 17.8% and
                    15.7% respectively by 2030

                    https://www.fao.org/3/cb5332en/Meat.pdf

                    • G-rig on 16/07/2023 - 19:09

                      @OzzyBrak: Nice work cherry picking some projections, I wonder who paid for that publication (snippet).

                      Interestingly from your same article:

                      Animal diseases such as ASF, highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI), foot and mouth disease (FMD) always pose significant risks for meat markets. Outbreaks can occur quickly and shock markets, which may take years to recover.

                      Funny how it talks about Covid, eating and messing around with animals causes all those diseases.

                      No doubt your boom in demand is recovery, but not hard to realise the extra population will demand more food.

                      The price of meat has clearly increased significantly (like most other things) so I hope you enjoy paying even more for it as well. Some people are too stubborn to even look into it and and eat less meat, Aussie cultures are pretty selfish. I can survive fairly easily these days without the need to consume red meat, known cancer causing carcinogen.

                      • OzzyBrak on 16/07/2023 - 20:11

                        @G-rig: What ever helps you sleep at night. I've done my best to deal in facts, and you constantly go to emotive judgmental language. Don't forget to take your B12 & D supplements. All the best.

                        • G-rig on 17/07/2023 - 03:29

                          @OzzyBrak: Rightio, you didn't make any compelling arguments nor produce any real facts so we'll have to just agree to disagree. Everyone has their own opinions so whatever pal.

                          I'm fine and sleep well. You should check your own B12 levels, a lot of people don't get enough not just vegans. You only get it as the cattle are given supplements - just cut out the middle man.

                          Vitamin D haha. Just go in the sun for 15 min a day, but you can easily store it in your system but thanks for your concern.

                          Did you even buy any doc martens or just trolling.

          • ssfps on 16/07/2023 - 00:59

            @G-rig: I've tanned my own leather once or twice, and never bought fake leather car seats. Not sure what you're getting at talking about car seats.

            Predictable
            Narrow minded people always bring up the same arguments

            Yet you never refuted it. At least you admit plastic isn't more sustainable than an animal product.

            but consider the land clearing and water required for animal agriculture

            There is no chance you have analyzed the full TCO/impact of this or other products, you're just going of "sensible" talking points. Trying to trace and quantify environmental damage is not only scientifically perilous, it's mired in a quagmire of subjective perceptions and politics.
            I couldn't give a (profanity) about animals killed if they are raised and cared for humanely, and I couldn't care less about CO2 in the atmosphere, but i think it's highly unethical to make fake animal products out of plastic, or to promote the proliferation of hormone-disrupting compounds such as those found in most plastics. I also think it's unethical to promote mono-cultures like grains and pine plantations over bio-diverse grazing pastures and managed logging in natural forest.

            • G-rig on 16/07/2023 - 03:53
              +2

              @ssfps: Most manufacturers use combination of pleather and leather if not completely synthetic. It's more responsible these days and can't believe you haven't heard of it. Full leather seats are a thing of the 90s and heavy af, more expensive, dependent on killing animals etc.

              Sounds like you don't own anything plastic. So are you getting any docs or just trolling?

              Funny how people get triggered on these posts as soon as vegan is mentioned, repeating the same BS fallacies that have been debunked 1000 times. It's about compassion as far as the animals go, would you eat your dog? Otherwise it's just selfish narrow mindedness, people don't want to sacrifice anything for the health and environmental benefits either.

      • [Deactivated] on 16/07/2023 - 02:22
        +2

        "good animal welfare" … yeah cause not using the hide of a dead cow will… um… not save the cow anyway.

  • Poperdobs on 15/07/2023 - 18:21

    Vegan lol… It's the pain and the suffering that make them part of you…

  • RnO on 15/07/2023 - 18:51

    Great shoes for making a statement about bringing down patriarchy

  • Sammyboy on 15/07/2023 - 19:09
    +8

    Call it synthetic and it's a $50 boot. Call it vegan leather and you can charge the same and maybe more than the real leather boot 🤷

    • payton on 15/07/2023 - 19:19
      +3

      Says a lot about the target market 😉

    • G-rig on 15/07/2023 - 19:27
      +4

      Same RRP, you're paying for the brand and fashion.
      They are actually $75 cheaper than the leather version.

  • figlia on 15/07/2023 - 19:45
    +1

    quality is an absolute rubbish on this… wife had a pair for just over a year befor they became "gardening" shoes

  • idonotknowwhy on 15/07/2023 - 20:11

    I'm going to go play my 100% Vegan Nintendo Switch now.

  • BadAtNames on 15/07/2023 - 20:25

    "vegan leather" great work from the marketing team to increase the margins on PU leather

  • doublehelix95 on 15/07/2023 - 21:13

    (profanity) Docs, Solovair, RMs, heck even CATs are way better.

  • cannedhams on 15/07/2023 - 22:15
    +5

    I am still wearing my pair from ten years ago. Ordered another, thanks OP.

    The uppers are made from a kind of flexible fibre cement, difficult to explain but completely different to PU leather. Ten years and the uppers are still fine. Not even a mark. They probably wear better than leather uppers, in all honesty.

    Unfortunately, the soles are another thing. The only reason they have lasted me this long is because Im cheap and I kept gluing them together.

    • ssfps on 16/07/2023 - 01:01
      +1

      Pretty sure they weren't chinese when you bought your last pair.

  • Ozjoey on 15/07/2023 - 22:40

    Review https://youtu.be/G0SUkryjRDk
    Break in your Docs Review https://youtu.be/AYZbdVlTpI8

  • TrulyUnicorn on 16/07/2023 - 05:57
    +7

    "Why don't vegans eat the eggs? The chicken was gonna lay it anyways"

    -ozbargains finest

    A vegan does not support killing billions of animals every year for their products, something that drastically reduces their carbon footprint and waste; the food they eat requires substantially less water, land and energy than meat. They go on to buy a plastic shoe in line with this belief, and deem the moral harm of the animal industry greater than the harm of the shoe becoming hard rubbish a decade down the line.

    Ozbargainers will happily purchase kilos of plastic but the moment a plastic shoe marketing itself towards vegans (yes they're a company, they market), suddenly their inner environmentalist comes out to attack the spooky vegans.

    I eat meat for the record but this decade of anti vegan hysteria is ridiculous and always propped up by people just looking for some group to attack to feel up themselves.

    A significant portion of the global animal industry is this: Animals as conscious, intelligent and often social as household pets are kept in confined spaces with minimal or even no comforts. They may spend years this way to then be killed so we can enjoy tastier food.

    A kilo of beef involves 1300kg of crops, 7200kg of roughages, and other requirements that involve thousands of litres of water. Immense energy usage and land requirements too. Vegans go with their hearts on the meat industry, change their lifestyle which involves worse food (one of lifes great pleasures!) and actually play their part in environmentalism - plastic shoe or otherwise.

    • ssfps on 17/07/2023 - 01:31

      carbon footprint

      When someone mentions this phrase, you know they get their understanding of environmental welfare from watching TV.

      A kilo of beef involves 1300kg of crops, 7200kg of roughages, and … thousands of litres of water.

      Where the hell are you getting these numbers from? You're saying an 800kg carcass took 1040 tonne of crops to grow, along with 5760 tonne of roughage (straw?) and megaliters of water? That's some wild (profanity) beef lmao.

  • Thaal Sinestro on 16/07/2023 - 06:55

    The problem with plastics is that they breakdown so quickly. The fake leather on many headphones (earcups and headbands) begins perishing after a year. I remember people talking about a gamers chair several months ago; they also mentioned how quickly it started falling apart (fake leather flaking off). Real leather has longevity; synthesised plastics are cheap, nasty trash that end up filling rubbish dumps.

    • G-rig on 16/07/2023 - 07:36

      It depends on the item and use case I guess. The is obviously different brands that are better and the quality can vary hugely as well.
      Those gaming chairs are shit anyway, and most people on here would buy the cheapest possible. Better off getting an ergonomic chair with a mesh back (and base even) that breathes, better support etc. None of my headphones have issues (Beyerdynamics, Sony XM5), some people are just rough on their stuff. No doubt a pos pair from kmart won't last.

      Another reason why i mentioned automotive interiors - they may still use full leather on high contact areas as you'd want those to last for 10-20 years or more. The rest of the non critical areas would be pleather these days I think you'd find - cheaper, lighter easier to source.

      Agree with what you pointed out - most leather belts look cheap and shagged anyway, lucky to get a proper fit with the hole spacings.
      I actually prefer those PU belts with the hidden end, as you can trim a bit off to get a proper fit, reversible even.

      A lot of people still throw away shoes when out of style or the soles are knackered, unless they've invested a fortune for RMs etc.
      So worth buying quality products regardless, if you need to buy leather, not that cheap crap from China stamped 'genuine leather'.

  • besttraveltech on 16/07/2023 - 10:43
    +1

    The vegan Chelsea & Jadon Docs are great quality. So are vegan Blundstones. These 1460 Docs are half as thick as the Chelsea and Jadon Docs, though, and don't stop squeaking. Wouldn't recommend.

    Also, anyone who thinks leather is more sustainable than synthetic doesn't know much about the tanning process and the harsh chemicals that are used to make the leather NOT biodegrade (because why would you want your boots degrading?).

    • G-rig on 16/07/2023 - 11:39

      Interesting, those models sound ok.

      I have the 1461 Dmc 3-Eye vegan shoes. Don't notice any squeaking but also haven't worn them much. Similar to my leather RMs, they are a bit narrow and the small toes cop it so would rather wear more comfortable footwear these days.

      Docs are a distinct look (alternative,punk, grungy, rompa etc) and not that fashionable anyway, but like the thicker soles compared to most semi formal shoes that hammer your feet.

      • besttraveltech on 16/07/2023 - 12:29

        Are you saying your docs are narrow? I always liked Docs because of how round they were at the front. RMs look narrow. Blundstones are perfect.

        The yellow stitching on Docs makes all the difference, though.

        • G-rig on 16/07/2023 - 12:32

          Yeah don't mind the stitching. The shoes i've got seem narrow, they may give a bit.
          Same goes for Converse but wear them anyway. more comfortable once broken in I guess but hardly like a nice running sneaker.

          • besttraveltech on 17/07/2023 - 08:00

            @G-rig: 100% can't wear converses. Those things are clown shoes. Either way too much space at the front, or way too tight around the sides.

            • G-rig on 17/07/2023 - 08:11

              @besttraveltech: Yeah just wish they were slightly wider around the small toe. The CX ones are much more comfortable soles, cushioning wise.

              Either way there is less of a need for dress shoes these days and would rather wear something better for your feet.

  • UberIsCool on 17/07/2023 - 20:51

    Just buy Blundstones, they are better

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