Incredible value for money in this bike. Main component list below:
64° head tube angle, 76.5° seat tube angle
M and L sizes available for both bikes as of 17/07/23 23:16
Pedals: None included
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Haha. Before I started road cycling this was also my reaction.
It's like buying socks for $500 and expecting shoes to be included. Pedals are very user specific for cyclists. This isn't a kmart bike
It's like buying socks for $500 and expecting shoes to be included.
You can wear socks without shoes…
I'm doing that now…
Pedals are very user specific for cyclists.
So are seats, but that seems to be included…
@JV makes a valid point.
@kickling: Not really…
There are at least 4 different types of cleats for mountain bike.
This isn't a kids bike. You're not ridding downhill without cleats. At beast you're riding 50/50 cleats.
This isn't about saving money, it's about not putting out a product with something that is useless to the end user.
@itshammer: Yeah agree with you. But also JV makes a valid point in principle, in that seats (well my experience with road cycling) are very much a personal choice involving many more factors than choosing clipless system brand, so just like pedals the customer will be choosing the best option for them.
your analogy doesn't make sense. they can include pedals and the end user can upgrade if they choose to.
In which case an end user could buy the socks and change the shoes and feel like they have wasted something.
Get over it. This is the market for more than 15 years.
Phones stopped including charges and nobody comments that every time a phone is posted.
Why do they include seats then?
I'd prefer the manufacturers to not include one if that lowered the final price. None of my bikes have the original seat on.
@dwbr: that's right…
they should either provide everything, or leave out all the components that enthusiasts who buy these expensive bikes would replace.
@jv: Yeah not, thats not how it works.
You can sit on a seat, as you have a butt.
You can't clip SPD cleats into a speedplay pedal.
And before you say "just include generic pedals", this is a downhill dual suspension mountain bike. You don't downhill with cleatless pedals.
@jv: In my experience pedals get swapped out a lot more than seats. You can still sit on a shitty seat while riding uphill, you cant keep your feet on shitty pedals while riding down trails.
In my experience pedals get swapped out a lot more than seats
I always swap the seat and keep the pedals as I prefer my seat to be comfortable for my fat butt…
You can still sit on a shitty seat while riding uphill
Afterwards, though, you will have a funny walk…
I've been watching their Grand Canyon 9 come down in price over the past few week.. just hoping they'll throw in a "free freight" again soon.
16kg 😬
2x my roadie and then some!
I dare say this is 2x more capable than your roadie though :P
This is sort of okay price for the specs…
I reckon this is a good price for an entry level enduro dually.
From a quick look around, a Merida One Sixty is the closest your getting to this for the price right now, and that's going down to an 11 speed deore
If you look around for sales and deals, you'll get something.
I got a 2022 Scott Genius 950 for $2800 3 months ago. They are currently $2400 at Ray's Bikes in Preston VIC.
Also, dealing with Canyon's warranty is a bit annoying… you have to go to their head office or mail them.
Fairs enough. I guess I'm out of touch with where the market is these days… My last N+1 was just before COVID…
How much is it normally ?