Hi Networking wizards,
I am trying to extend the internet to my shed 130m away from my original connection. After researching and finding Ethernet over 100m will not work I’ve read I need to do a fibre line.
I am completely new to this variant of cabling and have tried researching it but I’ve fallen deep into a hole and now am unsure what I need exactly to make this work.
Any help and directions would be greatly appreciated.
Sadly no, the area between is open yard
Would be nice to have 130 m of yard.
I just love avo too damn much
Could grow a few avos
Do you have line of sight between the two buildings? Point to Point WiFi Bridge, perhaps?
Point-to-point Wi-Fi bridging between buildings—the cheap and easy way
Note these Point to Point bridges are not usually gigabit — they appear to max out at 867Mbps as they rely on Wifi AC as opposed to the faster AX standard. Which is probably enough for most folks.
Here's a couple of examples
https://www.msy.com.au/product/ip-com-ap625-5ghz-433mbps-out…
https://www.msy.com.au/product/tenda-o8-5ghz-23dbi-11ac-433m…
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/50019/tp-link-cpe710-out…
This may be an option. Will have to check and see if there is clear line of sight. Thank you!
Interesting products. I wonder if these could be used to tap into free WiFi from a nearby source in the neighbourhood, or even many kms away? But looks like these need to be used in pairs?
starlink
Trying to avoid paying for another connection. Also changing the house to Starlink wouldn’t be preferable due to pings being a bit meh.
i assume your shed being 130m away would classify as rural
Not any longer, land developments with plots of 350m are popping up everywhere. I did ponder if I’d be able to get the rural deal with Starlink. Don’t think we qualified.
Certainly, extending internet connectivity to a shed 130m away from your original connection point can be a bit challenging due to the limitations of Ethernet cabling, which is generally effective up to 100m. Fiber optic cabling is indeed a good solution for this scenario, as it can cover longer distances and offer higher data rates.
This should give you a good starting point for extending your internet connection to your shed.
UraharaGPT
Nah go the fibre. Get a couple of these, https://www.4cabling.com.au/networking/switches-hardware/fib…, hire a machine to dig a trench in the yards, bury some conduit, and run the fibre. Not cheap, but do it properly, once.
…or test scrimshaw's solution of point-to-point bridge. a few hundred dollars to test it out, vs' thousands. Worst case it doesn't work, not much lost, then go for the Ferrari solution.
… or hire a very fast man to run up and down the yard delivering your packets.
Sure your latency will be at minimum 10,000 ms but Jeff needs a job after the comm games were cancelled
Unifi Nano Stations for point to point connection? Bit of an overkill but would get the job done. Though fiber will also work…
It really depends on your wiring setup (assuming the shed even has power), but you can easily bridge up to 300m with a solid Ethernet-Over-Power adapter.
Bit of a gamble, especially with old wiring, but way simpler and cheaper than running a physical cable or investing in PtP bridges.
I was also thinking along the lines (see what I did there) of Ethernet over power. Maybe look into that first as it's the simplest solution
This is what I do with my shed, although mine is only 10-20m away from the house.
There's a lot of very cheap secondhand ex-enterprise gear. If you're willing to lay copper ethernet, it doesn't really cost much extra to do it with fibre. And it'd be very reliable as well.
Could you lay say 80m to the shed, and put a weatherproof stand at 80m with the terminated ethernet in there? You would need power to run a switch too, and then run the next length of cable through to shed?
I have zero knowledge about fibre optic cable other than assuming it was expensive. So, based on that "knowledge", I'd support a wireless solution.
However, I did a quick google and found this:
https://www.radioparts.com.au/product/05060890/fib150mlc-sm-…
If I'm understanding it correctly, that's only $69 for 150m of fibre (plus extra for media convertors at each end). If that's typical pricing, then I think fibre optic is a much better idea than wireless. Dig yourself a ditch, lay down some conduit, thread the fibre through, and never worry about it again.
Added later: Does the shed have mains power? How does the mains power get there?
cat 6 - will run the full 130 m, and you should still get 100mb
Otherwise get a pair of NanoStation Loco M5 - I have used these previously to drill through a couple of trees at 800 meters. They will do up to 10km
Generally better to get a switch with SFP ports on both sides than use media converters… but either would be fine.
Fair chance at least 100Mbit, probably even 1Gig would still run on cat6 as said above for 130m, it's just a guideline like a best before. Obviously you'd want a more shielded better quality cable >CAT6 if you're testing the boundaries. This would be the easiest to find the buried rated cable from CCTV suppliers etc.
It's <500m so Multimode would also work. You can buy SFP ends for a couple of bucks off eBay etc, but getting pre-terminated leads that length might be more expensive, and you'd need some conduit. https://www.amazon.com.au/Multimode-Duplex-Gigabit-Fibre-Opt…
If all else fails or there is a phone line already to the shed, you can actually run your own DSL like at mine sites etc.
https://store.duxtel.com/PS180-T https://store.duxtel.com/PS180-C
Or no-one suggested Ethernet over Power?
I can pick up free public WiFi 100 metres away, but with direct line of site to the access point. Can get it on my phone outside, but not inside, so instead I set up a $20 used router running OpenWRT, which sits in the window facing the AP.
With the right hardware I would think a wireless bridge or solution is the cheapest option.
You could still use ethernet cable and see if it works - perhaps do 100Mbits instead of 1g.
If not, then put on ethernet extenders - that'll be $1500 and only 100mbits of speed.
A DSL extender. There is an initial cost plus the need to trench. Unlike the Ethernet or fibre options when the cable is accidentally dug up it is cheaper to fix.
Just run fibre, it's cheap.
Or to PoE to an outdoor AP and slap it on a pole close to your shed.
I am completely new to this variant of cabling
Legally you need to be a licensed cabler, if any part of it can connect to a public network.
Microwave point to point as mesh is not an option as OP posted above.
Thank you all, will be attempting point to point over the weekend!
Can you wifi/mesh ?