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Denon AVR-S970H 7.2 Channel 8K Atmos AV Receiver $900 Delivered ($2199 RRP) @ Homeaudiosales eBay

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Denon AVR-S970H 7.2 Channel 8K Atmos AV Receiver $900 Delivered ($2199 RRP) @ Homeaudiosales eBay

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  • qzcbmo on 25/09/2023 - 10:00
    +3

    8K AV receiver. Sold mate.

  • andyken on 25/09/2023 - 10:55

    Noob question here, can I use my current Yamaha (Yamaha YHT-1840 5.1) speaker and change to this receiver? is it not worth the upgrade? thanks

    • Kill Joy on 25/09/2023 - 11:22
      +10

      You can. And only worth the upgrading if you plan to use the features it provides you over your current receiver.

    • E4xtream on 25/09/2023 - 11:23
      +3

      First, yes. You should be able to swap out this amp and have it work with most of the speakers you already have. I say most, because in all likelihood, you'll need to buy a separate active subwoofer.

      Second, I think you should only make this purchase if you plan on upgrading your sound system relatively soon. If you want to remain with these same speakers for more than a year, skip.

      • Trishool on 25/09/2023 - 13:09

        If you want to remain with these same speakers for more than a year, skip.

        Why's that? Im in the same boat, want to get this AVR but have Sony speakers from a previous system that I'd like to use, but your comment has got me thinking.

        • vinni9284 on 25/09/2023 - 13:22

          You'll be fine with this AVR. It's only an entry level that has all the latest electronics. You can still keep your old as you can plug all 4K stuff into the TV and ARC into receiver (TV) depending on how old is your receiver

        • E4xtream on 25/09/2023 - 13:46
          +7

          My thoughts are this:

          • Entry level speakers like these are far too basic to make the most out of this receiver. You might not notice a big sound improvement.
          • At high output levels, you could even blow your speakers if you're not careful.
          • The subwoofer port on this AVR are typically sub pre-out, which are not compatible with the subs often bundled with HTIB packages. (Home Theater In a Box)
          • You'll need to buy a separate 'active' subwoofer to be compatible. This sub, will probably cost $300-$500 on the low end, and will most likely overpower the midrange from the speakers you already do have.

          So yes, you can make it work. And it won't even be a lot of work to connect this new amp to your existing HTIB speakers. But system synergy will be completely skewed. That's why I say that if you're not happy to upgrade the entire system within a year, then there's no point. Upgrade the AVR when you're ready to at least begin upgrading your main front speakers.

          • vinni9284 on 25/09/2023 - 14:42
            +1

            @E4xtream: I understand your thoughts however, please take into consideration that this unit is a very entry level unit. The only difference is that it doesn't have speaker 'spring clips' & sub pre-out like the HTIB specials. You crank this up, even with decent speakers at it'll be distorting at 3/4 volume. This is only good for cheap upgrades to integrate into 4K/120p electronics. You need at least an AVRX3000+ unit to notice the difference

            • E4xtream on 25/09/2023 - 18:23
              +3

              @vinni9284: I don't think it's entry level. In the world of casual home theater, it's definitely mid tier and this amp could drive a speaker pair up to $2K without the system synergy being totally off.

              Now, if you speak from a place of true home theater enthusiasts, then sure. But then you're used to $5K+ amps, $7K+ speakers set ups and all that Jazz.

              For a person coming from a HTIB, this Denon amp opens a lot of doors… except it's not worth doing unless he's willing to walk through those doors. It's not that he can't do it. It's that he won't see a true benefit if he doesn't upgrade his speakers as well. That's all I'm cautioning.

              • vinni9284 on 25/09/2023 - 19:12
                +1

                @E4xtream: I guess it's subjective of what an entry unit is. However IMO the price adjustment has demonstrated this. For an originally $2K receiver, it is lacklustre and overpriced. It's an upgrade to a HTIB.

              • BlasterBoy on 26/09/2023 - 07:28
                +2

                @E4xtream: What happens with speakers over $2k, do they become some sort of upper class speaker who won't socilise with lower class WRMS? "Go away you poor, homeless electrons, I only take the finest French watts here"

                • E4xtream on 27/09/2023 - 10:27

                  @BlasterBoy: Not really. It's more about synergy. You could connect 'endgame' $300K+ to this amplifier and they would still work. But you'd be leaving aside 60+% of the performance you supposedly paid for.

                  So in that spirit, I would say that you want to keep that system synergy in mind.

                  • BlasterBoy on 27/09/2023 - 13:50

                    @E4xtream: Price doesn't really matter with what this can drive, The dollar figure doesn't tell you what the speaker's efficiency is like.
                    But also if you can afford 300k speakers, you are not looking at bargain AV units, totally different ball game.

                    I run mid/high-end bookshelves off a similar spec AV amp from another manufacturer with no problems, and they sound as good as they did off
                    the previous dedicated 2 channel amp i did have.

                    • E4xtream on 27/09/2023 - 13:53
                      +1

                      @BlasterBoy: Yes, I agree that price doesn't dictate what will work well. But you know, we're on a forum and shortcuts need to be made. Otherwise I'd be writing a dissertation trying to break it all down.

                      So, forgive me for the short hand. Just a ballpark estimate.

                      • BlasterBoy on 27/09/2023 - 14:06
                        +1

                        @E4xtream: All good!

                        I have been playing with audio for 25+ years, and just get a little annoyed when people equate the more you spend the better it will sound.
                        But I get where you are coming from. :)

                        • E4xtream on 27/09/2023 - 14:09
                          +1

                          @BlasterBoy: You have me beat. I'm a youngling to this audio shh… I just don't want someone to invest nearly a $1K into a piece and then wonder why the audio doesn't sound that much better, and he can't connect his subwoofer. Only to spend another $400 on a sub, only to then realise that the audio still doesn't blow him away. Only to then realise he has to now spend more money to justify the whole thing.

                          Let's face it. He'd be better off spending $500 on 2 main front standmounts, connect them to the amp he has now, and enjoy. It'd be a far better return on a smaller investment.

                          • BlasterBoy on 27/09/2023 - 14:20

                            @E4xtream: haha yeah, I am just an old grump now :p

                            I totally agree, with that, speakers make the biggest difference.

                            AV gear is just a pain TBH, it's guaranteed obsolescence with the pace of changes that come out with standards.
                            At least with 2 channel audio, you can have an amplifier for decades and never need to upgrade.

                            • E4xtream on 27/09/2023 - 14:27

                              @BlasterBoy: I guess you could go the pre-processor/amp route. But honestly, I've already decided what 'endgame' looks like for me. Total system price, including all cables and random accessories has to be less than $50K for at most a 5.2.4. That's it. I'm still in my early days, but no matter what happens, that's endgame for me.

                              Otherwise, the pursuit of better and better would drive me to despise the hobby. Once I get to that end game, I'll only replace an avr/processor every 10 years or if it breaks.

                              • BlasterBoy on 27/09/2023 - 14:49

                                @E4xtream: 50k is not too bad tbh.

                                I don't have a lot of room, so 3.2 is as far as mine will go, the current setup is fairly basic and sub 10k with some great second-hand purchases and sounds pretty nice, I do want to change my speakers, but then trying to find a centre speaker to match what I want might be an issue.
                                (and this is how I end up with separate HT and HIFI setups in the same room again)

                                • E4xtream on 27/09/2023 - 15:01
                                  +1

                                  @BlasterBoy: 50K is far future goals man. If I were at 10K all up right now, I'd be content for a long while. I think the chase is a lie they tell us to get us to buy more. If you like what you have. Enjoy it I say.

    • quiteguy on 25/09/2023 - 11:30
      -1

      Those Yamaha speakers are 6 ohm and this Denon amp is 8 ohm. Should work ok. Most of these Denon amps has an inbuilt "protection mode" which puts the amp in standby mode if it detects low-impedance load that overload the amplifier.

    • hen dawg on 25/09/2023 - 13:34

      Depends if you ever want to add 2 more speakers to your setup as this deal is for 7.2 unit.
      Maybe a newer 5.1 AVR will suit you better and give you some features you are missing?

    • VanDammage87 on 25/09/2023 - 18:56

      Yes to the speakers. No to the subwoofer as the subwoofer that comes with that pack is passive.

  • BoundedRationality on 25/09/2023 - 10:56

    Ooof that's tempting.

  • AP7 on 25/09/2023 - 11:00
    +11

    Looks good but I’m doubting that $2199 RRP as current, as a few places are selling it for $1500 or less. Still seems like a good deal

    • raybies on 25/09/2023 - 13:16
      +3

      Unit doesn't even have pre outs… should be < $1k.

      • Montyjpm on 25/09/2023 - 13:27

        Can someone confirm this? It looks like no pre-amp out.

        • vinni9284 on 25/09/2023 - 13:30
          +3

          Only pre amp is for Subwoofer. It's only an entry level amp. Any receiver that has pre-outs will start at twice the price

          • Montyjpm on 25/09/2023 - 13:31

            @vinni9284: Looks like I will stick with my Yammy for now then. Thanks.

          • raybies on 25/09/2023 - 13:53

            @vinni9284: Full pre out sure, but fronts should be std above $1k

            • vinni9284 on 25/09/2023 - 14:37

              @raybies: Denon's are overpriced, like many other similar (parent company Marantz products). If you want an entry 7.2 front pre-out, go for Pioneer.
              https://www.digitalcinema.com.au/pioneer-vsx-935-7-2-channel…

              • raybies on 25/09/2023 - 15:03

                @vinni9284: But I like the Marantz sound signature, or maybe it's their HDAM and even their budget models inc. slim line have pre outs. No experience with Pioneer.

                • vinni9284 on 25/09/2023 - 15:06

                  @raybies: I haven't looked but I'll be confident that the Marantz 'budget' models (and referring to AV receivers) will be way more than the Denon. I have had several Pioneer units and are pretty happy with the performance price point. Onkyo has taken over Pioneer and Integra models. I have also an Integra receiver and they are awesome for the money. But I buy them second hand for way cheaper.

  • vincesuarez on 25/09/2023 - 11:06
    -8

    Could get a higher model for less

  • TheCandyMan2020 on 25/09/2023 - 11:06

    Looks like a good deal, but do I read it right that it is only 8K passthrough?

    And what about 4K/120 - passthrough again?

    If you compare https://www.denon.com/en-au/shop/avreceiver/avrx2700h on the Denon web site to this, it appears that this S970H just passes through 8K/60 as opposed to processing 8K/60 like the x2700H does?

    I could be wrong. OP can you confirm?

    • Justin9mm on 25/09/2023 - 11:21
      +2

      If it does 8K/60 Passthrough, it will do 4K/120. It's like asking if a 4K receiver will still do 1080p. It's about the amount of data it can passthrough. It's a given it would be 4K/120.

      • TheCandyMan2020 on 25/09/2023 - 11:22

        Yeah but passthrough or actually processing?

        • Justin9mm on 25/09/2023 - 11:24
          +2

          What do you need processing for?

        • Kill Joy on 25/09/2023 - 11:26
          +2

          What do you mean by process? Why would you want your AVR to process it?

          The only kind of processing i can think of you might be refering to is upscaling, but that would only apply to 4k and below (to upscale to 8k?) and its not really an important or good feature in my opinion. Passthrough is the ideal function.

          • Justin9mm on 25/09/2023 - 11:27

            @Kill Joy: Exactly. I think he is confused about what he needs.

            • TheCandyMan2020 on 25/09/2023 - 11:29
              -2

              @Justin9mm: If you compare the X2800H specs vs the S970H specs on the Denon web site you will see that they display the HDMI capabilities for the receivers differently.

              The X2800H is processing the signals at 8K/60 - whereas the X970H is only passing through.

              • TheCandyMan2020 on 25/09/2023 - 11:39
                +1

                @TheCandyMan2020: https://www.zkelectronics.com/compare/denon-avr-x2800h/denon…

                This is a good comparison. As far as 4K and 8K are concerned, they perform the same

                My bad.

                Just didnt want to spend $900 and get inferior processing.

                • Justin9mm on 25/09/2023 - 12:10

                  @TheCandyMan2020: This is a good deal, I have the Yamaha Aventage RX-A2A for a couple years now and use it for my Series X and PS5 @ 4K/120hz. I have a full 5.2.2 Atmos setup. If I was looking for a receiver now, I would purchase this in a heartbeat. $900 is an amazing price.

                  • TheCandyMan2020 on 25/09/2023 - 15:05

                    @Justin9mm: Interesting

                    I actually want an RX-A2A as it is the entry level true HDMI 2.1 Yamaha receiver. The lower models aren't true HDMI 2.1

                    Do you think this Denon is better?

                    I have an ageing RX-V681 which doesnt do 4K/120 (does do 4K/60) let alone 8K, but its rock solid reliable. I can't fault any Yamaha AV gear I have ever bought - Marantz and Sony on the other hand…

                    Never owned a Denon

                    • Justin9mm on 25/09/2023 - 15:23
                      +2

                      @TheCandyMan2020: I'd say the RX-A2A has the slight edge, but they're pretty comparable, they pretty much do the exact same job you need it to do. Yamaha outputs 100W per channel as opposed to 90W per channel on the Denon but the Yamaha is not $900. And in a real world scenario would likely not know the difference. If it was me and I'm looking at RX-A2A at being what looks like $1600 and $900 for the Denon, I'd probably save the money and go the Denon. I got my RX-A2A on special for $1200. I would not pay $1600 for it. Denon is a very reputable high end brand in audio and for $900 this is pretty hard to beat in my personal opinion as opposed to the price of the RX-A2A. The support for the RX-A2A was also terrible at the start, Yamaha lied about when the promised features like supported 120hz, VRR, ALLM for gaming etc. was coming. Was lots of issues with it at the start. That's all been fixed and added now with firmware support but I did not get a good out of the box first experience..

                      • BlasterBoy on 27/09/2023 - 13:54

                        @Justin9mm: the A2A can also do bi-amp for 5.2 channel, which is nice if you have power-hungry fronts.

                  • Franc-T on 25/09/2023 - 16:52

                    @Justin9mm: I have an old (I mean really old) HDMI unit with four tower speakers, two centres and a (Self powered sub)

                    This looks like a good way to hook up my speakers to my 4K 85"

                    Can you confirm? I typically dont look at AV gear just replace every 6 years or so but my old speakers are all i need.

                    • Justin9mm on 25/09/2023 - 23:06
                      +1

                      @Franc-T: Of course, this receiver would make a good system to drive your existing speakers. I dont know what your speakers are but would probably give you a nice home theatre system.

                      • Franc-T on 26/09/2023 - 00:00
                        +1

                        @Justin9mm: Thanks, looked like it but was scared to pull the trigger. Done now, wife will be very unhappy to have the sub-reconnected

                        • Justin9mm on 26/09/2023 - 10:43

                          @Franc-T: Congrats, I think $900 is fantastic for this receiver and the features you get. As I said in previous comments, I would of purchased myself if I was still looking. Just make sure you follow the Audyssey steps and initially do the setup right. This is definitely one of the most important aspects to get the best out of your speakers and system.

                • raybies on 25/09/2023 - 13:46

                  @TheCandyMan2020: These are essentially soundbars without speakers. Everything is designed to be as cost-effective as possible. You should aim for minimal processing. If you have an 8k source and TV, consider bypassing an amplifier like this and using eARC for audio. Pass-through would be the second-best option. I'm not aware of the chipsets/DAC it's using, but typically, at retail prices of 10-20% of it is hardware, while the rest covers licenses, logistics, and markups. These amplifiers are comparable to the small $50 Chinese 50-100w amps. Many people rely on front pre-outs so they can purchase a clean $100-$1000 Chinese amplifier, and some mght even use their $5k class A stereo amp.

                  Think of it more as an HDMI switcher and network streamer with good audio codec support—well, at least that's my perspective.

          • caitsith01 on 25/09/2023 - 11:47
            +1

            @Kill Joy: Lots of receivers do some level of image processing rather than straight pass through.

            • Kill Joy on 25/09/2023 - 13:44

              @caitsith01: Yeah but point being, what kind of processing do you as a consumer want? I figure most people into high quality audio want high quality video, and in that case just like with audio, additional processing changes the source into something it was not intended to be. Besides upscaling which has some minor benefit in some scenarios, what other processing of image do AVRs provide?

              • vinni9284 on 25/09/2023 - 14:52

                @Kill Joy: The IPO model (Input, Process, Output). What goes in has to be good quality for a good output. Plus upscaling is a false addition of pixelation… etc to enhance imagery. This 8K receiver is only good for 4K/120p. By the time 8K fully integrates into the market, HDMI 2.2+ etc will be out hence rendering these redundant like many other consumer electronic product. I doubt many have 8K TV's

                • Franc-T on 27/09/2023 - 16:23

                  @vinni9284: Even if you have an 8K tv wheres the content? 4K will be fine for years

                  • vinni9284 on 27/09/2023 - 17:30

                    @Franc-T: PC gaming could be a start. However it'll probably be a fake 8K upscale.

                    • Franc-T on 28/09/2023 - 10:52

                      @vinni9284: Didnt think of that, but very very few people PC game from the couch.

                      That said, I may try it with steam OS its brilliant on the deck, wonder how it will be with a beefier PC

              • caitsith01 on 25/09/2023 - 17:22

                @Kill Joy: Upscaling would be the biggest one. Some TVs do a terrible job, and having a high end AVR do it would be superior. And most content is not true 4k/8k and has lots of compression so there is scope for processing to improve PQ for most content.

    • StephBlanks on 25/09/2023 - 12:22
      +2

      8k/4k looks exciting BUT how big is your display tho? i might be blind and way behind with new tech but i'm still watching 1080 (maybe you kids don't know what it is :D) and 4k movies through a projector on a 200 inch screen and can't tell the difference.

      • oshkoshjosh4 on 25/09/2023 - 21:39

        What resolution is the projector? One has four times as many pixels so it's very noticeable.

        • StephBlanks on 25/09/2023 - 21:43

          I have an Optoma and an Epson. Both are 1080 bought 6/7 years ago at least

          • oshkoshjosh4 on 25/09/2023 - 23:21
            +1

            @StephBlanks: That explains why you can't see the difference, as it's downscaling the image to 1080p. You'll need a 4k screen or projector in order to fully appreciate the difference.

          • Justin9mm on 26/09/2023 - 10:45

            @StephBlanks: So you realise you obviously can't watch 4K on a 1080p projector lol.. This is why you can't tell the difference.

            • StephBlanks on 26/09/2023 - 13:38

              @Justin9mm: nah going back to what i said. most devices we have are smaller than 100 inch. 4k or not, u can't tell unless u are close to the screen. but no point of going back and forth

              • Justin9mm on 26/09/2023 - 13:50
                +1

                @StephBlanks: You're not really providing any details of what you have to prove any point, what devices, a TV, a mobile phone? What size, 7 inch? 70 inch?. How far you actually sit from it if lets say its a TV? Is it a 4K device or 1080p? You can't say there is no difference when you just said you have 1080p projectors. All these variables make a difference. It sounds like you are a little uneducated on 4K tech. Either that or your eyes are bad because not being able to tell the difference is factually untrue. It's actually pretty easy to tell the difference if you are actually playing 4K through a 4K TV/device. I can even tell the difference between a 1080p video and 4K on my mobile phone lol.

              • Franc-T on 28/09/2023 - 10:16

                @StephBlanks: I have the following UHD tvs:
                55"
                65"
                75"
                85"
                All of them have a much better quality picture than my FHD 110" projector and its absolutely super obvious / disernable. I downgraded size for the projector to the 85" for its much better quality.

                Seriously, if you cant tell the difference (assuming you are using an UHD source and not some shitstream like Kayo Sports) perhaps you have cataracts or something?

      • Franc-T on 26/09/2023 - 23:24

        FWIW I just moved from a High Def projector to an 85" LCD and its an amazing upgrade though quite a bit less less screen real estate.

        1000% can see the difference, highly recommend doing it.

  • garage sale on 25/09/2023 - 11:18
    +1

    wish they had some killer deals on just denon or marantz stereo amps …. don't need all these extra channels and decoders …

  • stufrase on 25/09/2023 - 11:19
    +2

    Paid $950 from same shop last week :(
    This is a great deal

    • bheart on 25/09/2023 - 11:39

      What speakers did you get for this? This does not seem to support wireless speakers (is that a thing?)

      I’m a total noob when it comes to speaker systems

      • Maxi Pad on 25/09/2023 - 12:01
        +8

        You don't need need to buy a receiver if you are using wireless speakers like Sonos. This is for people who want high quality audio (wired).

        • bheart on 25/09/2023 - 12:13

          Thanks for that. Will be looking into soundbar systems with wireless speakers then. Can’t imagine running wires with these many speakers in my living

          • dec1an on 25/09/2023 - 12:40
            +5

            @bheart: Sure, but soundbars will sound greatly inferior to what this amp will produce with decent quality speakers. If you're willing to install good speakers properly and have them wired in, they can't be beaten but I understand that's not possible for many living rooms.

            • bheart on 25/09/2023 - 16:24

              @dec1an: For sure, depending on one’s needs. I have been fine with TV speakers so anything above that will be a huge improvement. Definitely prefer wireless over wires in my situation

        • neonlight on 26/09/2023 - 08:26

          I constantly struggle to find soundbar with wireless speakers doing 5.1 at a reasonable price….. Any suggestions except Sonos?

          I'm running HTIB Yamaha 5.1 from 2010 very old system does the job but no support for HDMI beyond 1.2 and of course no pass through nothing

          The speakers come with it are likely 6 ohms or less. This unit will blow them away

          I'm not the kind to install wired speakers all over the place with kids running around the house knocking things over

      • scottb721 on 26/09/2023 - 06:35

        Probably plays to HEOS wireless speakers.

  • Drakesy on 25/09/2023 - 11:35

    If my pioneer atmos receiver wasn't working as well as it is i would've jumped on this.

    8 years and still going strong

    • OzBerghainer on 25/09/2023 - 11:47
      +1

      Honestly we have a pretty entry level Yamaha Receiver from 2009 and it's still going great. 5.1 still pumping.

    • Justin9mm on 25/09/2023 - 12:15
      +1

      New receivers are good for passing through multiple 4K/8K sources. For example, I have my series X and PS5 going through my receiver @ 4K/120hz. Something I could not do with old receivers as my TV only has one 4K/120hz HDMI port other than eARC. TV also mounted on the wall so easier to plug things straight into the receiver than having to go to the back of the TV etc. Currently have the Yamaha Aventage RX-A2A.

    • vinni9284 on 25/09/2023 - 13:37

      I assume your Pioneer receiver is an LX model? If so it'll be a downgrade in regards to power outputs.

      • Drakesy on 25/09/2023 - 23:35

        Yeah, she's a beast.
        Noticed a huge difference in clarity and bass going from an onkyo-575
        Wish pioneer didnt stop making them :(

        • vinni9284 on 26/09/2023 - 06:49

          They still make them. The prefixes have changed. Search VSX-LX505 … etc

  • rumblytangara on 25/09/2023 - 11:53

    Serious question here- what does 8K mean in the context of an AV receiver? Or is this just a messed up ebay listing?

    It just handles audio, right?

    • Maxi Pad on 25/09/2023 - 12:04
      +5

      If you have multiple video sources you plug them in here and select them using the receiver.

      • rumblytangara on 25/09/2023 - 19:22

        So this acts a high bandwidth switch for video signal- it doesn't do any sort of processing as the data passes through?

        Ah, I see that @teereb answers this a couple posts down. So it's a pass-through device. Thanks.

    • Smitty1997 on 25/09/2023 - 12:06
      +2

      AV stands for Audio Video

      • DiscountForThee on 25/09/2023 - 13:52

        what does 8K mean in the context of an AV receiver

        This video does nothing to answer this question lol

        • NudeBinoculars on 25/09/2023 - 14:13

          It just handles audio, right?

          But it answers this

    • teereb on 25/09/2023 - 12:12
      +2

      HDMI will carry audio and video in the one cable. Having your video come through the receiver means less cables. Here having 8k pass through meant the video signal will stay untouched by the receiver as it goes from source (PC, console, Blu-ray player) to your receiver, to your tv.

      Less cables is tidier.

    • Justin9mm on 25/09/2023 - 12:20
      +1

      Receiver plugs straight into TV via ARC/eARC, you can then plug multiple HDMI sources into the receiver, such as blu ray player, PS5, Series X. The receiver allows you to passthrough the audio and video, say if you are gaming @4K 120hz. The receiver needs to be able to support this. 8K is also 4K/120hz. It's about the amount of data that can pass through when it comes to 4K/120 or 8K/60hz etc. When you want to buy a HDMI cable that does 4K/120hz, you would be buying an 8K cable as they are now labelled.

    • Morien on 25/09/2023 - 12:24
      +3

      It means it is capable of HDMI 2.1

      This is important for those of us with a PS5, Xbox, or PC.

      If the receiver didn't support HDMI 2.1 you'd need to use eARC from your TV by plugging the console directly into your TV and letting it send the audio back to the receiver.

      This can be ok for some people, but take my Sony A90J for example.
      It has 4 HDMI inputs. Two are HDMI 2.1, and two are HDMI 2.0. One of the HDMI 2.1 ports is the eARC port, meaning I can only plug one HDMI 2.1 device directly into the TV. For me, that's my PS5. But then… how do I connect my Xbox? I can connect it to one of the HDMI 2.0 ports, but now I miss 120hz, and I miss VRR.

      There is something very wrong with the rollout of HDMI 2.1. A TV can advertise itself as HDMI 2.1 even when not all of its ports support it. Likewise, an AVR can do this. These details are often hidden away in the specs, and even then they aren't transparent. Maybe it supports HDMI 2.1 on one input. Maybe it supports them on all. Maybe it's capable of 48Gbps on some ports, and not all, but technically still HDMI 2.1. It's a bit of a shit show.

      But yes, without bogging down further, the 8K means that (at least one) input is capable of a HDMI 2.1 signal.

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