Hi,
Renovating the main bathroom and need advice. I like the first design because I’d like to have an open shower but worried the bath is too in the way of the entrance and ruins the natural flow. Thoughts? Is corner shower really that bad? Which option would you choose?
Thanks. Not sure yet, need to get 3 quotes
In this day and age 3 quotes isn't enough, I would get 5 quotes.
Good luck getting that many tradies to visit and quote.
@Euphemistic: Why would getting 5 quotes be harder than getting 3 ? There are 100s of tradies doing the job, maybe 1000s.
@garetz: Yes its true there are thousands of tradies out there but theyre all busy.
In my experience its a challenge to get one tradie to visit for a quote let alone 5. Theyre all flat out with work ahead of them. They dont need to waste time with a quote that likely wont get them any income.
@Euphemistic: Quotes get you jobs, if you refuse to quote you aren't going to be busy very long as a tradie.
Like i said why would it be harder to get 5 quotes over 3 quotes, it isnt, each quote is as hard as the other.
Better to get too many than too few.
Is this only bathroom? Is there another toilet in the house?
Open shower is a dumb idea, water gets everywhere.
Having the toilet facing down in the pics meams you dont have your back to the person walking in.
Double vanity is nice in theory, but its twice the cost, twice the cleaning etc. Do you really need to have two sinks? How often would you actually need it?
Bath might seem like a great idea, but unless youre washing kids frequently or can actually sit in said bath without half of you getting cold, will it actually get used? Our bath has bsen used maybe 5 times since the kids started showering about 5 years ago.
If there’s no bath in the house then there goes a chunk of market share when you go to sell.
Are you sure about that? The only people i know that regularly use a bath are those with kids under about 6. So maybe if its a family home it really should be considered.
I dont think its a massivs chunk of the market if you dont have a bath - although I'll admit that many people probably think they want a bath 'because I need one' then never actually use it.
I dont see the point of putting in a bath too small for an adult just becasue the market says 'you have to have a bath'
Whatever share of the market people with children “under 6” equates to is what section of the market that will be missed.
@Tee Rex Arms: Plus those that think forward: "I won't be able to sell this to people with children under 6"
Houses are too expensive to only think about your own immediate needs
Now my kids are older they never had a bath.
I'd take a bigger shower over a small shower and bath.
I'd take just a proper shower over a shower over bath.
If a buyer really wants a bath, they can redo the bathroom themselves for 30k. It is a sensible solution if they are really keen on the property and location.
I guess it keeps tradies in business, but it seems so inefficient. The next buyer might put it back to how the original builder had it.
I looked at it as houses are too expensive to get the design wrong, but I guess you could say it's a relatively small cost to customise to what you want.
@SlickMick: No house is perfect. The last owner's taste could be totally different from yours. But what happens if location is great, there are schools you are interested in and the price is reasonable. Doing a renovation can make the place essentially your vision of how you want the house to look like. Im not going to give up a purchase just because there is no bath tub or the kitchen tiles is not my taste. The people who downvoted me have never bought a property before.
@KaTst3R: I don't know who downvoted you, but I don't think you're necessarily right that they haven't bought a house.
Up until now ,I have lived in 6 homes and never renovated one of them. I believe you can make a house a home without spending more money on it.
We currently have the fridge in the garage because of the stupid design of this kitchen. It might seem weird or inconvenient for a while, but you can get used to anything.
However, I can also see you point of view. My wife finally wants to fix what is wrong with this kitchen, and I'm just saying make sure you're making improvements and not just what you want now. I don't want to spend this kind of money again when she changes her mind.
@KaTst3R: I bought my house, knowing I'd renovate it, so when I was looking at houses, what the tiles etc looked like didn't bother me. My 2 most important dot points was location (near a train station) and price.
If there’s no bath in the house then there goes a chunk of market share when you go to sell.
Why is this always mentioned? I’d rather my house be functional while I lived there, then feel like a renter that can’t change anything because I may sell it one day.
Obviously in this case OP does want a bath, but really if someone is renovating they’re expecting to be there for a while, so functionality for that duration is more important than resale value.
I'm feeling persuaded to agree with you.
I had always dreamed of building my perfect house, but it hasn't happened. After decades of living in various houses, I've found that you can make anything work. e.g. our fridge is in the garage atm. You just get used to it.
We're actually doing some renovations because my wife is sick of it. So yeah, I'm definitely coming around.
LOL yeah alright bud. "oh this house is great value for $900k. Oh it doesn't have a bath? best I can do is 750".
Not having a bath is rarely a deal breaker, and let's be real, property is so F'd at the moment that it doesn't matter.
There is an ensuite as well off the master.
I think I’m keen on single vanity but bigger.
Bath would be good for kids and resale.
Open showers are fine if you have the space - you just a big enough screen an enough of a fall to keep the water in. In my experience a properly designed one is no messier than one with a screen. In saying this, they are a little less efficient because they don't hold the steam in and therefore tend to be a bit colder - particularly when paired with high-mounted shower head.
I would go the first but hide the toilet behind the door.
Rotate the bath so it’s on the 2780mm wall put the shower screen up against it’s end and put a corner door on the shower
Move the vanity right so it’s not in the doorway.
I’d avoid the open shower.
Thanks! So the last picture in the link but extend and move the vanity?
Don't forget to install an outlet near your toilet so you can hook up a bidet if you choose to.
I just asked an electrician this week and he said it'd be a huge job, having to take the roof off to run a line right down the house.
Dream shattered :(
I need a cowboy who can run one from the bedroom beside it.
Hey Mate,
Designer here, a few quick sketches to help you feel the space.
Sam7 is the MVP.
GG
Legend thanks! Any with the bath? Which design do you think works the best?
My understanding is that you only want the bath for resale value.
Option 1 is suitable, but choose a small bathtub and toilet partition to ensure a proper fit.
Also, the wash basin should be fairly standard. It will be cramped, but it has everything.
In my opinion, if a home already has a main bathroom, adding a nicer second bathroom does not devalue it.
(Especially if there's a shower and it's designed for appearance and function.)
It comes down to what you truly want.
This is much better. Dump the bath. Anyone who says they are required to sell a house haven't sold without one. Houses sell just fine.
Personally I would rotate the toilet to not face the door but it depends on plumbing etc
looks like a winner
As others have said, bath is unnecessary. No-one actually uses them and they just take up space and money, don't do it.
Enjoy the $40k this is going to cost to do in the current climate. Consider any DIY aspect if you're handy or willing.
Do NOT put a vanity basin right next to the door like that, or you'll have injuries.
You could extend the benchtop to the doorway, or put a full-height storage cabinet there. Consider sliding doors, so as not to hit the main door.
Thanks so leave a gap between the vanity and the door? How does it cause injuries? Because of the door?
You don't want a person standing at the vanity to be hit by the door when opened by a partner rushing for the loo.
So keep mirror and basin back out of the door zone.
can you do a sliding door? That stops people being hit, although its a bit less 'private' as you will never be able to fully close the door (there is always a tiny gap). Doesnt look like you have the space to the right of the entrance but I'm not sure whether the bit to the left of the entrance (behind the toilet in option 1a) is part of the bathroom or not
I would also not put the vanity right next to the door, because the main times you will get 2 people in the bathroom is when 2 people are using the vanity (brushing teeth etc), so there will be someone in the way (especially if you think you need a double vanity - I've never understood why anyone actually needs a double vanity, for a small area where you need to ensure optimised use of every bit of space it seems a totally impractical option, but some people like them I guess)
I'm with the others in that I don't understand double vanities.
For the time each fitting is used, is it necessary.
It makes more sense to have side-by-side toilets… 2 minutes morning + night to brush teeth vs 10 minutes to drop a (pretty efficient) deuce…
separate the loo if you can. Make a separate entrance.. no one who is using the shower or takin a bath needs to see you on the throne.
I will go with first design.
How much are you paying for this reno?